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  1. mudmanc4 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Which ISP to go for ADSL line in Bedfordview   
    Note: you can also do this for states.
     
    Examples:
     
    Arizona download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/az/down/5000
    California download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/ca/down/5000
    Colorado download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/co/down/5000
     
     
  2. mudmanc4 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Which ISP to go for ADSL line in Bedfordview   
    Actually @mudmanc4 that lists all the hosts with "za" anywhere in the name.
     
    Here's
    http://testmy.net/list?q=ZA&sortType=down&partner=&countrySrch=1&stateSrch=&minTestCount=1000
     
    I'm not sure if that functionality is even easy to find here.  I'll make sure that it's easier to find soon.
     
    For now, here's a URL shortcut to make your own queries.
     
    http://testmy.net/countryrank/us/down/20000  
    /countryrank   (base URL)
    /us  (change this to the two letter country code you'd like to query)
    /down (if you'd like to rank upload instead change this to /up)
    /20000 (this is the minimum recent test count... helps filter out the less popular results, which makes for better data.  Smaller cities can appear much higher or lower because of the smaller sample size.)
     
    In this way you can create the link above for ZA
    http://testmy.net/countryrank/za/down/1000  
    You can also look directly at Bellfordview, ZA -- look at the ISP Rank tab
     

     
    Also look at the Speed Test Log using the button below the graph.
     

     
    Not very many results in Bellfordview so I would look also at the cities nearby.  Like Germiston, ZA  (I'm not sure of the area, you'd know probably know better [larger] cities to search for in your area.  You can search on TestMy.net but personally I just use google and search for "Germiston ZA testmy.net" or any other city.)
     

     
    Repeat that for some other cities nearby.  If you keep seeing Telkom Internet [www.telkom.co.za] on top it can be safe to say they're your best choice in the area, especially if there is as much difference as we've seen in the first two cities.  
     
    There may be less popular, faster choices so make sure you look at the Speed Test Log and tell TMN ranking to 'Show All' -- this setting will be remembered for subsequent queries.

     
    So actually, upon closer inspection... I'd check out Internet Solutions [www.is.co.za] first, especially if you see them coming up high on the list allot on the other major cities in the area.
     
    Just because the sheep mostly flock to one pasture doesn't mean the grass is actually better.  They may not have found the other meadow yet, they may just want to stick with what they know or they may just tend to go where the other sheep go. Sometimes the less popular choice is really the better one.
  3. mudmanc4 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Which ISP to go for ADSL line in Bedfordview   
    Note: you can also do this for states.
     
    Examples:
     
    Arizona download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/az/down/5000
    California download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/ca/down/5000
    Colorado download speed city rank with a minimum of 5000 recent results.
         http://testmy.net/staterank/co/down/5000
     
     
  4. mudmanc4 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Which ISP to go for ADSL line in Bedfordview   
    Actually @mudmanc4 that lists all the hosts with "za" anywhere in the name.
     
    Here's
    http://testmy.net/list?q=ZA&sortType=down&partner=&countrySrch=1&stateSrch=&minTestCount=1000
     
    I'm not sure if that functionality is even easy to find here.  I'll make sure that it's easier to find soon.
     
    For now, here's a URL shortcut to make your own queries.
     
    http://testmy.net/countryrank/us/down/20000  
    /countryrank   (base URL)
    /us  (change this to the two letter country code you'd like to query)
    /down (if you'd like to rank upload instead change this to /up)
    /20000 (this is the minimum recent test count... helps filter out the less popular results, which makes for better data.  Smaller cities can appear much higher or lower because of the smaller sample size.)
     
    In this way you can create the link above for ZA
    http://testmy.net/countryrank/za/down/1000  
    You can also look directly at Bellfordview, ZA -- look at the ISP Rank tab
     

     
    Also look at the Speed Test Log using the button below the graph.
     

     
    Not very many results in Bellfordview so I would look also at the cities nearby.  Like Germiston, ZA  (I'm not sure of the area, you'd know probably know better [larger] cities to search for in your area.  You can search on TestMy.net but personally I just use google and search for "Germiston ZA testmy.net" or any other city.)
     

     
    Repeat that for some other cities nearby.  If you keep seeing Telkom Internet [www.telkom.co.za] on top it can be safe to say they're your best choice in the area, especially if there is as much difference as we've seen in the first two cities.  
     
    There may be less popular, faster choices so make sure you look at the Speed Test Log and tell TMN ranking to 'Show All' -- this setting will be remembered for subsequent queries.

     
    So actually, upon closer inspection... I'd check out Internet Solutions [www.is.co.za] first, especially if you see them coming up high on the list allot on the other major cities in the area.
     
    Just because the sheep mostly flock to one pasture doesn't mean the grass is actually better.  They may not have found the other meadow yet, they may just want to stick with what they know or they may just tend to go where the other sheep go. Sometimes the less popular choice is really the better one.
  5. Pgoodwin1 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Access TIP data for CSV export   
    I need to make a graphing option that groups by hour like that, very useful.
     
    How often are you getting results that have spikes that large?  I just looked through a whole page of your results and didn't find one quite like that.
     
    Share the test ID's of some of those results so we can look closer.
     
    Your end goal is to highlight those results so you're able to detect a pattern, exporting just helps you develop your own solution.  You'd really rather that TMN visually show you when those anomalies occur (without having to open details on each result) rather than you having to manipulate the information yourself.  Right?
     
    I can make a 24 hour plot that aggregates by hour, like your first graph.  But also plot the aggregate variances.  Could also make a highlight option, where you can set the percentage (for middle variance) and TMN will highlight the results over the level you set.  I think that should make finding those anomalies and establishing if any patterns exist easier.
     
    What do you think?
  6. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by Usef2017 in Slow Internet Fix   
    How about this there is plenty of solid information in this link.
    I thought I posted it here before, not sure what happened.
  7. bfleury liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in My Test Speed   
    Oh, I see... it's MB/s --- lol, MBps isn't even a term. There is Mbps (megabits per second) and MB/s (megabytes per second) but MBps makes no sense.... things would get pretty confusing if that were true.



    I like how they say, "It's all about speed..." --- looks to me like it's all about ad revenue. -- 5 Adsense ads on one page! That's not only stupid, it violates Google's terms of use.

    Yeah, spammers usually have poor quality. They spend all of their time spamming instead of developing. This guy didn't even make sure he had his terminology or facts straight before going live.

    ...But, by all means keep that crap flowing off the press. The more TURD speed tests that are out there, the more reason why people will want to come here.
  8. Pgoodwin1 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Speed stuck during the test   
    (I saw your reply just now while I was typing this... you already did this but I'm leaving this part in case it can help someone else.)
    I agree, this can easily be the router.  If you haven't already, power cycle the router.  At the same time I'd do the same for the cable modem.  If you're still having issues directly connect the modem to your best machine, power cycle it (so that it will grab the MAC address of the computer instead of the router's), then test directly connected.  If we can establish that you have the same issue on more than one machine and you've eliminated your internal network variables (your router and cables between) then you may have a case for Rogers Cable.
     
     
    So... again... more proof of TestMy.net showing results in line with the real world when others fail to.  If it takes you about 2 minutes to download 1 GB then that's 8.53 MB/s or 68.26 Mbps... pretty far off from the 900+ Mbps the other speed tests tell you.  Your TMN average right now is 84.9 Mbps.  I assume when you download a file the speed during the transfer is fluctuating like it does when you run a TMN speed test.
     
    It's lame that most ISPs no longer recognize the results here... especially since their techs used to send much more people here.  In some cases TestMy.net was a main step in company training manuals.  Before they had alternatives that made them look better.
     
    Patrick07, I feel your love for the site.  I sense that you already understand how it works around here.  This is just general information for others reading.
    Note: When you're running perfectly on 1000 Mbps... you'll still never see the the full speed here.  Under the most ideal circumstance I'll see 990 Mbps but you'd never get those conditions in the real world, ever.  The quoted speed that your ISP gives you is irrelevant to this test.  You should use yourself (your best machine) as a baseline instead of what you think you should have.  Like in your case, you used to consistently get over 400 Mbps then all of a sudden you see a huge difference.  It didn't need to originally show you 900 Mbps to determine that there's a HUGE difference there.  People get hung up sometimes because the results don't tell them the number they expect.  They have 1000 Mbps and expect to see that, especially since every other tests tells them that's what they're getting.  My goal is to give you a more realistic picture, including the variables you can expect to run into out in the real world.  ... back to your own words.  "Before, it (a 1GB download) would take less than 30secs." --- again, that puts you right at the 400 Mbps that TestMy.net was telling you.  400 Mbps or 50 MB/s... puts you at 20 seconds for 1 GB.  
     
    I'm telling you, demand that they take notice.  Their speed test is obviously BS.  If you feel like you've done everything in your power to make sure the issue is not on your end... force them to come out.  They'll threaten to charge you but if it ends up being their issue... it's on them (make sure you get the tech to agree to no charge in writing, especially if they send a contractor).  If you can't download from any source faster than TestMy.net results suggest, especially if it's confirmed on multiple computers AND you've eliminated additional variables like your router...  AND you've gone through 3 different modems.  They owe you a visit.
  9. Sean liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Why Do My Results Differ From Speedtest.net / Ookla Speed Tests?   
    Great analogy!
     
    For those who'd argue "What if that construction zone was not there, those traffic lights were green, no accident on the route, ..." 
     
    Do you want to know how long it might take if everything were perfect... or would you rather know the true amount of time it will take?  Who cares about the time it would take if there were no variables, it's irrelevant if it can never be achieved in the real world.  I don't know about you but if I set off on a road trip and Google Maps said, "6 hours" and then it ends up taking 24 hours because of stop lights, construction and speed limits (all known before)... I'd be really pissed.  I'd rather be told the truth with all things considered so that I can plan accordingly.
     
     
  10. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by Sean in Why Do My Results Differ From Speedtest.net / Ookla Speed Tests?   
    I have the same experience with 4G (cellular LTE) based broadband connections, such as when positioning a directional antenna.  When the network is quiet (e.g. early on a weekend morning), there can be a large variation between what SpeedTest and TestMy reports if the antenna is not aimed correctly.  Once the antenna is carefully aimed, the TestMy results climb up towards what Speedtest reports.  It's similar also if there are swaying branches in line of sight as Speedtest will again ignore the brief dips as if the bandwidth is sustained. 
     
    If Speedtest measured road trip speeds, their speed test methodology would eliminate traffic lights, construction zones, slow vehicles, busy junctions and everything else that accounted for the slowest 30% of the journey.
     
    If TestMy measured road trips, it would run a stopwatch from the moment of departure to the moment of arrival.
     
    Of course like the Speedtest fanatics, there would be those that would argue the same for road trip measurements - "What if that construction zone was not there, those traffic lights were green, no accident on the route, ..." 
  11. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by suddenLYUNlinked in Why Do My Results Differ From Speedtest.net / Ookla Speed Tests?   
    Today, during yet another worthless 'field tech' appointment re our Suddenlink ("suddenLYUNlinked" as we call them) speeds crawling along at amazing slow speeds, then spiking to very high (DL/incoming), then [the modem freaks out due to the spike, as explained to me once by a suddenlink phone tech support rep], I tried showing the TWO suddenlink tech employees that the site they wanted me to test at (https://SPACEfastDOTcom) was a 'flash-based' test and therefore not truly accurate for reasons detailed here at testmy.net. They refused to even consider what I was saying. (Typical suddenlink.)  I tried showing them the graph and the individual entries from the auto tests (both tmn and not, both DL/UP, and DL only) I've been running ever 10-15 mins. for days and days. Again, no interest.
    Either they had no idea what I was talking about, or they just flat out weren't interested in any info source that conflicted with their canned 'you're getting exactly [the speeds] what you are supposed to' canned, unhelpful, useless speech. They refused TO EVEN LOOK at the screenshot I'd saved on the 'why flash tests aren't accurate' testmy.net website info page.
    And the fight continues......... (after one tech actually agreed that I might just have to switch to 56k dial-up fro days of old..... figures, right?)
  12. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by Pgoodwin1 in Speed stuck during the test   
    I had a problem similar to this once and it turned out to be an intermittently bad router. I got similar high and low speeds during each test. Over a period of a month it was about the same - widely varying speeds. After that it got progressively worse, then the unit finally stopped working.
     
    There are a lot of possibilities for what the problem is. Try plugging an Ethernet cable directly from your computer to your modem. If the results are consistently good, then your problem is between the modem and your computer..
  13. mudmanc4 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Testing!!!   
  14. Pgoodwin1 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Manual download testing   
    The manual file sizes have a restriction.  Below 12MB, if you download the information too quickly, TMN will send you to larger size.
     
    Judging from the speed of your connection 1 MB should be sufficient... but you may be getting bursts that cause the program to want to throw you a larger size.  See this result...
     
    http://testmy.net/db/pPVrZcbX8

    I'm surprised that one didn't forward, you must have been right on the edge.
     
    If you were to run 2.5 or 3MB tests I think you'd avoid any forwarding, I think that should stretch it out enough without going overboard.  Manually select 3 MB from the download test or use this URL http://uk.testmy.net/dl-3MB&nfw=1 (the "&nfw=1" is the key to tell it not to forward... but it still may if the size is 12 MB or lower.)
     
    Is 3 MB still more than you care to test with?  Let me know how that works.
     
    Happy Testing!  ... and Happy New Year!
    - Damon
  15. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by tuscan in Manual download testing   
    Happy New Year to you too !
     
    Thanks for your reply.
     
    I tested both my standard and mobile broadband connections using the 3MB test URL you provided.
     
    The tests confirmed that the 4G connection is much faster than the standard broadband connection - we are in a rural location where the standard broadband links are not good !
     
    Time to purchase some pre-loaded SIM cards !!
     
    Thanks again for your help with this.
     
     
     
     
  16. Sean liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in TID graphs are showing up blank   
    Hey Sean, I didn't see this topic, I got a PM with the same title and ended up responding over there and didn't see this thread.  It was a pretty odd issue that came from an  update of ipb. 
     
    Thank you for bringing this to my attention quickly so I could fix it quickly.
     
    Happy New Year!!
  17. Victoree liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in What should I do to pinpoint where the bottleneck is?   
    With TestMy.net you are testing to Dallas TX, other test locations are available around the world but none in South America.  I'm still looking for a fast and decently priced server in South America.
     
    There are many reasons why speedtest.net results differ from TestMy.net.  Here's a couple of topics that will shed light.
     
    Why Do My Results Differ From Speedtest.net / Ookla Speed Tests?
    Internet providers caught inflating speed test results
     
    You said it yourself, you're getting crappy quality from netflix while speedtest.net says you have 20 Mbps.  Sounds like TestMy.net is more representative of what you're really seeing.  You're not alone, topics like yours are by far the most common question we get here.
     
    You already have your answer and know which test is right.  Why would you trust that test when you can feel that it's much higher than it should be?
     
    I have an option that you can use to make your own multithread download tests against pretty much any server you want.  I created one for you using netflix servers.
     
    assets.nflxext.com
     
    :::.. Download Speed Test Result Details ..::: Download Connection Speed:: 98183 Kbps or 98.2 Mbps Download Speed Test Size:: 96 MB or 98328 kB or 100688125 bytes Download Binary File Transfer Speed:: 12273 kB/s or 12.3 MB/s Tested At:: http://TestMy.net Version 15 Validation:: http://testmy.net/db/i98fNGPJr Client Stats:: http://testmy.net/quickstats/CA3LE http://testmy.net/compID/4602014672148 Test Time:: 2016-02-02 07:27:42 Local Time Client Location:: Monument, CO US http://testmy.net/city/monument_co Target:: assets.nflxext.com http://testmy.net/mX/KsSMa Client Host:: Comcast Cable http://testmy.net/hoststats/comcast_cable Compare:: 29% slower than client avg, 137% faster than host avg, 69% faster than city avg, 217% faster than country avg, 531% faster than world index 1MB Download in 0.08 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~82 Seconds - 1753X faster than 56K This test of exactly 98328 kB took 8.208 seconds to complete User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_11_2) AppleWebKit/601.3.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0.2 Safari/601.3.9 [!]  
    Comparing to multithread on TMN Dallas where I got 135 Mbps using the same test size immediately after.  And then a linear result...
     
    http://testmy.net/db/WHjK6uJZl

    This, by the way, is on wifi that I know to be under performing.  On a computer directly wired to the router with cat-5 moments later...
     
    http://testmy.net/db/~JnyL6cNz

    The best thing you can do to understand your connection and where it's weak is to test it more with TMN.  By altering the variables, testing against different servers, using the different test types you can spot weak points in your route.
     
    Hell, you can even use TMN to test against speedtest.net servers if you'd like.  Search google for "speedtest.net server list" and you'll instantly find their publicly available server list.  Search the XML file for your city or the server you know about already.  Take the URL e.g. "http://speedtest.com.uy/speedtest/upload.php" then drop the "upload.php".  Most of the servers are open to file navigation, just open the URL in your browser and you'll see the list of files that speedtest.net uses to test.  Copy the URL for the packet size you'd like to test with and paste it into http://testmercury.net ... TMN will turn the image into a speedtest that can be automatically sized anywhere from 2X the original size to 200 MB.  Literally just paste a URL to a valid image online and hit enter...
     
    So here's the directory listing for a random speedtest.net server in UY
     

     
     
    That's the standard file structure for speedtest.net servers.  You could just take "random350x350.jpg" and add it to the end of any of the server addresses on the XML and it will make a great test using TMN instead of speedtest.net.  Faster connections you may want to use the larger images, which are then repeated to reach the final test size.
     
    Hope this helps you nail down the problem.  Always compare the multithread results (the Mercury test is multithread) to the classic linear results.
  18. jelbiz liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Fail gracefully when very bad connection   
    I'll keep this suggestion in mind when I dig into the next version. -- this would add a lot of value.
  19. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by Gabe1972 in Sign up link not working...   
    If you click on "Sign In", then "Sign Up" after "Don't have an account?", it works, but the direct Sign Up link is not working.  Just letting you know.  I'm on the Hughesnet Community boards and when people are being told to create an account here they aren't able to. 

  20. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by Doug Sinnott in Do routers get old or outdated?   
    I had my old Virgin Media wireless router replaced with the latest version,following low internet speeds,and it has vastly improved my download speeds.
    The adviser at the Help Desk suggested  it,as I was only averaging about 8MBS download speeds,while I was paying for "up to" 100MBS!
    Now I have been averaging nearly 70MBS,much better!
    Doug
  21. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by nanobot in 27in iMac 5K Retina   
    Images of the install attached on this post.
     
    It was a piece of cake.
     
    Thanks,
    EBrown







  22. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by nanobot in 27in iMac 5K Retina   
    Upgrade done.
     


     
    All good.
     
    Thanks,
    EBrown
  23. Pgoodwin1 liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in Do routers get old or outdated?   
    First, tell everyone the specifics of what you have right now.  What's the max speed of your connection?  Do you do a lot of transfer within your home network or do you stick to the Internet?  How many computers do you have.. and how many other devices do you have.  ... also, what is the distance from your preferred location of the modem and router from the main areas of your house?  Is the router located centrally in the home or in a corner?  
     
    As you can see there are many variables.  Give us a better picture of what you have going on, it will help our recommendations.
     
    Personally, I shoot for overkill.  But my needs may be different from your own.  Depending on the details of your needs, you can save a lot of money by getting what you'll really use rather than just going for the ultimate.
  24. mccaacoy liked a post in a topic by CA3LE in TestMy.net shows different results than other speed tests   
    Hi Keith,
    First, sorry this email is so long. Sometimes I don't realize how much I've written until I'm done.

    I can't really speak for other speed tests out there but I can share some information I've gathered about some other so called Internet speed tests. This information may pertain to BT's speed test as well. >> http://testmy.net/ip...la-speed-tests/ -- there are related articles linked at the bottom of the first post of that topic that may also shed some light on the subject.

    Most likely the speed is being reported below BT's speed test result because they are testing your connection within their network. These days almost all providers prefer this because it makes your connection appear better than it really is. Also read >> http://testmy.net/legit-speed-test.php

    My speed test has many things going for it that lend to it's accuracy.
    TestMy.net has been around since 2001... I have more experience than anybody when it comes to Internet speed testing. It started as a hobby and as a tool I built for myself but for the past 8-9 years I've been completely dedicated to TestMy.net. I've actually been developing my tests since 1999 but in the early years I had to shut down for a while because it cost me too much to host the site. Back before 2001 there really wasn't sufficient Internet ad revenue to offset my bandwidth costs. It grew too fast, too quick and too early in the history of the Internet. I had to shut it down until the cost of bandwidth decreased and ad revenue possibilities increased but I never stopped developing it. I even had sponsors that promised me bandwidth only to shut me down when they realized that I wasn't exaggerating with my bandwidth projections. It was pretty frustrating times. Thank god for Google Adsense and my other sponsors... also the cost of bandwidth is more than 100X less than it was.

    My tests do not use third party plugins such as Sun Java and Macromedia Flash. Although it might have been easier to design the tests using those... they aren't accurate test platforms. It has always been in my design to utilize ONLY the web browser. Tests that use other protocols are at the mercy of those protocols. They are subject to many factors that my tests simply don't have to deal with. In many cases those tests are making adjustments based on guesses... adjusting for unknown variables. Some of them make adjustments of as much as 30-40% to offset a variable that could be as little as 5%... they don't know the real number of how much they need to offset so they guess! Now last time I checked, my visitors are looking for a test... not a guess. --- I've never seen a referral from search engines using keywords like, "bandwidth speed guess" -- lol

    TestMy.net does not host within any providers networks, my host directly peers with many providers but my servers are not on the edge of their networks. All providers are graded based on the same criteria, everyone is given a fair chance to score well. If the provider is weakly peered or has issues with their routing then it will be more apparent using TMN. Providers would like you to test within their networks because when you do you eliminate variables that could make them look bad. These variables that may or may not be in their control. But I feel that's the information you were looking for. If you want to test your Internet speed then you have to test it through the Internet, using a normal routing procedure as if you were visiting any other website. Don't you agree? I provide a real world scenario not a best case scenario.

    Overstocked and overpowered... my servers are more powerful than what is needed for my application... WAY overpowered. I have multiple gigabit symmetrical uplinks to one of the most powerful, well connected hosts in the business, hosted on major Internet pipelines. My main server is smack dab on top of the heart of the Internet crossroads, right on an artery where a larger percentage of the worlds popular websites are hosted. Any provider worth anything should peer well to that location.

    Distance is not always a factor. Some other sites lead you to believe that you need to test off a server near you. It's a complete fallacy. Okay, let me ask you this, when you visit a website... how often do you get to pick where it's being served from? Sometimes they ask you location on International sites but that's usually more for a language preference. How often is that being served even from the same state that you're in? Trust me, not very often. I have seen people on the other side of the planet pull 200+ Mbps from TMN. A properly configured like on a well connected provider can max out or nearly max out over thousands of miles. I offer east coast and west coast servers only as a comparison to the main server to help diagnose routing issues. I could easily set it up so that people are sent automatically to the closest server but I feel that isn't always an accurate representation of your connection. I personally live over 1400 miles from my home server, I'm able to max my 50Mbps line with no problem... as long as my home connection is working the way it's supposed to.

    Randomized, un-cacheable test information and large file sizes. Other speed tests rarely tell you how much information is actually being transferred and I can almost guarantee you that the information used for testing is the same from test to test. Again, I can't really speak for the other guys... but I know that they don't do it like I do. The data that testmy.net uses is created by the server on the fly. Unlike other speed tests I don't use real physical files. While you're testing random, incompressible data is being created by the server and sent to you. No two tests are alike. This makes it impossible for the data to be compressed by your provider, which would lead to a result that's higher than the true speed. (most common among satellite providers)

    That's a few reasons why other speed tests out there may report differently. There are more reasons, TMN is unique and proprietary in how it operates. BT as well as just about every provider on the planet USED to send their customers to TMN to test their connections. I've had a lot of call center techs send me copies of training manuals from back in the day where it was standard procedure to test at TestMy.net. It was seriously step one in many cases. What I think happened is they realized that they could cut down on service calls and save money by showing customers that their connection is working fine to THEIR servers. They then blame any problems on the website that the customer is visiting. The problem with that is that the provider is at least partially responsible for the route you take from your computer to the server you're visiting. They choose who they peer through and sometimes these connections going out to the Internet that they have can be overloaded. If the test that you're using bypasses the route that your provider takes to get you outside their network then you won't see those issues. ... how can that be a test. They also have inferior testing technology. I've been developing my speed test over many years, lots of trial and error and the way I see it... I'll never finish this project. Providers who host their own speed tests have stake in the results... if they are misrepresented the company stands to possibly gain something. .... I on the other hand grade everyone the same. I have no ties to any ISP and have no reason to inflate results. If people suspected that I was misrepresenting the information it would hurt my business. The big ISPs could care less about the traffic to their speed tests... the larger companies stand to easily save millions in service calls and call center support if people think that it's the fault of the website they're trying to visit. ... see what I'm laying down?

    I've been trying to spread the word about these practices for years. But it's very hard. First, I have to get people to read what I've written. Then I have to convince them that I'm an authority on the subject. It's really hard because I seriously have nearly every Internet provider out to get me right now. I'm telling their customers the truth that they don't want them to know. I've had A LOT of providers contact me wanting me to host my test within their networks, often offering me money and hosting to make it happen. But I feel that I'm working in the interest of the consumer... how can it be in the interest of the consumer if the test isn't really testing the Internet?

    Hopefully with help from the community I can get the truth out. I truly feel that they're doing it on purpose in many cases and it makes me sick. Consumers are being blatantly lied to. All I can do is keep programming and writing for what I think is right and hope that people visit and tell their friends.

    If you like what I've built, please pass it along... TMN is 100% word-of-mouth.

    - Cheers,
    - Damon Mueller




  25. CA3LE liked a post in a topic by jjgk in WOWWAY as a Provider   
    Thanks, wide open west is what I was looking for. Now I just need to find a map like mudmanc4 displayed, but for Wide Open West's fiber. When I talked with them, they said they won't share a fiber map for security reasons. However I did read an article in the news that they are running fiber in the adjacent city. So, maybe there is hope. I also saw a recent article that AT&T is installing fiber in Detroit now. I guess since Google started, they all have to start. Competition is good...darn that big current merger going on