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[water]

Where has honor, integrity and decency gone? Is this a generational thing? Is the byproduct of our advances in technology? Do you feel that freedom of religion has contributed to this?

Let’s look back to the late 1800’s/ early 1900’s (And yes, I am talking generally, not EVERY circumstance that happened, so do not get anal about one occurrence that goes against my rant here or I will have to ~school~ you the “water way”).

Back then, people stopped what they were doing to help out a neighbor who lost 4 cows. Now: We don’t even bother to help a neighbor look for 1 stray dog.

Back then, people would go help their neighbors raise a barn, today we don’t even invite them over for dinner.

Back then, we watched out for other people’s kids. Today? We have pedophiles on every street corner.

Kids are online looking at porn, young adults are knowingly buying stolen goods, parents are so wrapped up in their own issues that they don’t recognize that their kid is going to shoot up a school or that they cut themselves.

We have rampant ADHD, depressive disorders, murders over x-boxes, murders over weed, and we generally treat each other like S#!t. People forget that others online are real people and get nasty with them, when they wouldn’t talk that way to a stranger that just hit their car. We are multitasking so much that we don’t acknowledge that the little kid next door is being beaten by his dad, and his mom is a crack addict.

When did we become so internalized and why? What has caused us to go from a world of caring people, to a world of materialistic bastards?

Is the next DVD player or big screen TV so important that we will sacrifice our own children’s future in order to watch a larger rendition of the racing vehicles at NASCAR? Does the need to see the Detroit Lion’s 2 feet tall lessen our ability to read to our kids, or let them read to us?

Where are the parents today? Where are the friendships today?

Can anyone tell me?

[/end water rant]

[dlewis23]

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Where are the parents today? Where are the friendships today?

Can anyone tell me?

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I cant tell you were they have gone, cuz id like to know my self were they have went too. Maby there is come club or something we dont know about.

The world is just a completely different place from even 20 years ago. People only care about them selves these days no one cares about anyone else anymore. Hell people don't even care about there kids anymore they let them do what ever they want and couldn't care what they do.

People just need to go back slow things down and get some values and start caring especially about your kids.

[gotmilk]

[quote author=dlewis23 link=topic=15453.msg163104#msg163104 date=1154530108]
The world is just a completely different place from even 20 years ago. People only care about them selves these days no one cares about anyone else anymore. [/quote]

I don't know much about "20 years ago".  I wasn't around back then, but I see your second statement becoming more true every day.  People only worry about their own needs (or in this case, wants) more than the needs of others.  Not many people are willing to give a helping hand.  I'm not sure I want to see how it will be when I can say "20 years ago".

[quote name='waterRTBH]Kids are online looking at porn' date=' young adults are knowingly buying stolen goods, parents are so wrapped up in their own issues that they don’t recognize that their kid is going to shoot up a school or that they cut themselves.[/quote']

... so much truth in that 

[cholla]

I hate to give the short answer on this but I have to go soon.
People in our industrial civilization have been forced to become too busy.They could slow down have less materially but most won't.
So unless you want to become Amish you probably aren't going to see many barn raisings.
For a pat on my own back I did help a friend several years ago put up one of those log houses Took about 3 of my weekends.What I got paid was food & drink.For a lot of hours lifting logs & hammering 18 inch spikes.It is a little more laid back here but not like it used to be.
To get into my religion the Bible says that this is a sign of the end times.The Armegedon .But time to God is not the same as to us mortals.So it might get worse than now for a couple of more centuries & not be just around the corner like a lot of preachers say or it could be tommorrow.
If the population continues to grow as it has in the last century then in another one there will be 36 billion people on Earth.Try to feed that many & keep pollution down.
Bet your glad I kept it short.

[water]

The price of Yahoo IM. THIS is an instant message that was waiting for me when I got home. Here is the entire conversation. I do not know this person, and they do not know me. I responded, hoping it was a new listener joking with me. BUT this is someone's idea of fun:

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stateofmind71: You smell of male
waterrtbh: I do? Who?
stateofmind71: You
stateofmind71: Do
waterrtbh: what male?
stateofmind71: Yes
stateofmind71: Male
waterrtbh: no - what male do I smell like
stateofmind71: An overweight hairy one
waterrtbh: really
waterrtbh: I smell like an overweight hairy male?
stateofmind71: Oh yes for sure
waterrtbh: how did you determine this?
stateofmind71: The way your profile has been worded,and the dodgy profile photo
waterrtbh: well, you are incorrect. I am female, my picture is really me, and the profile is a joke
waterrtbh: I'm 37 years old, I am 5 foot 10 inches tall and I weigh 147 pounds. I am certainly not hairy
stateofmind71: Now your trying to create a paradox of my mind
stateofmind71: Well,it wont work
waterrtbh: I am not trying to do anything. I am merely stating the fact that I am not a male, not overweight and not hairy. I have a hilarious sense of humor (I am told by my friends), and I bath often so I do not smell.
stateofmind71: Prove it
stateofmind71: Show yourself
stateofmind71: Or ill tag you as smelling of fish
waterrtbh: I don't need to, and you cannot force me, so therefore the answer is no, I will not prove it. You can take your rude self somewhere else and leave me and my happy little ass right here, blissfully happy and surrounded by people whom I like.
stateofmind71: Ok
stateofmind71: You do that

Oh, anyone who feels the need to educate stateofmind71 on Yahoo Instant Messenger, I don't know this person, therefore have all the fun you want to have.

[amc11890]

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Oh, anyone who feels the need to educate stateofmind71 on Yahoo Instant Messenger, I don't know this person, therefore have all the fun you want to have.

[tommie gorman]

Just my thoughts on this.

The media, soap opera's, and talk shows. Which is derived from us wanting excitement at any cost.

The media, they will lie and twist a story just to make it exciting to watch. Who cares about the truth. Next time you watch the NEWS try and see if you can see the lies. We want to believe everything they say. It is our source of info. Maybe we put too much stock in what they put on out TV's.

Soap opera's. Take any  woman or lessor man and put up all these stories about romance, love stories, cheating, deciept, all the gory crap that women usually crave. I have been married twice, and in both of them it is not uncommon for the wife to think I am up to something wrong, just because she saw it on TV. I would rather watch an old Bonanza, Andy Griffith, Gomer Pyle, etc...  Daytime TV sucks. And movies, I like a little action type of adventure.
When was the last time you made your kids sit down and watch a Good old Walt Disney film? ? ?

Now talk shows. Almost self explanatory. Oprah, and the rest will just stretch your imagination some times. If you will notice alot of them just redo the same one over and over and over and over. Who is the father of this little child. Women and men seem to love this TRASH. Why should that be topic in the first place, come on maybe a couple of times, but the concern goes out of the door after maybe 5 times of the same thing. Just ratings.

I almost left out the psychiatrists. DR. PHIL. What a BOOB. Who does he think he really is? Yes he has credintials. A shrink. How can he diagnose everybodies problems without even knowing them and talking to them. And then he leaves the rest for us to try and figure out if this might be what is wrong with people we know ourselves. And just because my kid acts like this today, does not mean my child will act the same way next time. Grrrr. It bites me the stock people put in some other people. Would you go see a psyco for your kids? Hell no, then why would even listen to him on TV in the first place?
And as mother says, don't ask your neighbors for advice on important matters in your household and expect it work more than 1/2 of the time. What works for their husband will probably not work on yours. They are two entirely differet people. The same goes for our children.

Just start finding entertainment in your own children, and the world will be a much better place. Children are entertaining, funny, imaginative, creative, make you very proud, and very loyal, and will give you more love than your spouse could ever possibly give you. They will again reproduce this in Grandchildren if you do it right. Now if you was to ask me what is the biggest investment return you could possibly ever have, it is your children. And they will not need or deminish in any way like your electronics will! They will give you the best return you will ever get. I live, work,breathe, and invest for my children! If you can also say this, then we are already on the road to a recovering Nation. U S A 
We are free to change anything we want to.

Now maybe that is why I got the "Sophist" award. But don't listen to me, I am just a friendly neighbor! 

[tommie gorman]

One more little quick one.

The main thing I enjoy about the Bible "IS" what did Jesus enjoy and put the most stock in? Think about it!

Bring me the little children! Let them come before me. You can not get to heaven til you think like a child.
Why you say? Because they are innocent, fresh, and clean. Like a new computer. They only start with the info you put into them. So wake up parents. It is up to you how this DAMNED world turns out. I just hope I put in a couple of GREAT ONES myself.

And you will never hear that one from the Taliban! I don't think they actaully believe in children, except as killing machines.

Again, just my thought. Tommie.
Christianity rules, when used properly. 

[cholla]

water;I'm not on any IM if there is any other way you want me to tar & feather his ass like e-mail or something I will give it a shot.Iwish I had him here in front of me.I think I could teach him a few manners.
Probably just some Muslim terrorist who didn't like your idea of how to root them out.
I would like to see some of them killing themselves on the street.
I saw a show the other day with a former Muslim terrorist who had converted to Christianity.
He was a member of one of the jihad groups started at 13 & had around 450 kills of
non -Muslims mostly with a dagger that's what he was trained to do.
He said he regreted what he had done & would never have done it if he had been a Christain before.Now he has to watch his back so his own family doesn't kill him.

[water]

Wow, some great responses here.

Tommie, I agree with what you have said, and my kids and their dad and I don't watch the shit, but the news thing... can't keep them away rom it, however we use that to have intelligent discussions with them, so that's a good thing. When the whole thing was going down about Terri Shiavo and then the pope died, I spoke with my kids and answered their questions ... they wanted to know why people could let the pope die, but fight for someone no-one knew. GREAT topic about the hypocracy of our country and why not to be that way....


But the kids aren't the problem, the parents are. So many parents of all ages will refuse to acknowledge their kids, and frankly I do believe that has been our downfall since the 60's.

[water]

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water;I'm not on any IM if there is any other way you want me to tar & feather his ass like e-mail or something I will give it a shot.Iwish I had him here in front of me.I think I could teach him a few manners.
Probably just some Muslim terrorist who didn't like your idea of how to root them out.
I would like to see some of them killing themselves on the street.
I saw a show the other day with a former Muslim terrorist who had converted to Christianity.
He was a member of one of the jihad groups started at 13 & had around 450 kills of
non -Muslims mostly with a dagger that's what he was trained to do.
He said he regreted what he had done & would never have done it if he had been a Christain before.Now he has to watch his back so his own family doesn't kill him.

You know that I believe every religion has good and bad in it. It is not what the religion speaks of, but how the religion is taught. Everyone has the exact same thing in it, good bad or indifferent, many Muslims are peace-loving and generous, just as many atheists are.


Religion is neutral people are not.

[tommie gorman]

I stand corrected. But I was not trying to point at Islam, just the terrorists and their mindless followers!
But the real meaning is the children are the answer. Sorry if I came off wrong. It just boils up inside sometimes.
And you remember how the old steam pot mom used to use was, how you had to let the temp come down before you open up the lid?
I blew a damned good stew all over the kitchen walls and ceiling one time. I thought she was going to kill me. She just laughed. 

[cholla]

I bet that was a pressure cooker.Mine has a safety lid so you can't do that.
I don't mind pointing to Muslim terrorists.But if the rest of the Muslims in those countries aren't really behind the terrorists like this man was .How did he manage to kill 450 people without going to prison.The only explanation I can give is because non-Muslims were killed there wasn't much investigation.

[water]

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The price of Yahoo IM. THIS is an instant message that was waiting for me when I got home. Here is the entire conversation. I do not know this person, and they do not know me. I responded, hoping it was a new listener joking with me. BUT this is someone's idea of fun:
Oh, anyone who feels the need to educate stateofmind71 on Yahoo Instant Messenger, I don't know this person, therefore have all the fun you want to have.

this little bastard got on my nerves, prolly because I am hot with a heat index of 110, howver, the good news is manyfold I have thousands of friends and two were online tonight and ready to take on the devil. So they did. after they heard of my sad tale of woe: They took it upon themselves to speak to this troll after I was done (above).

The following conversation took place with he and I:

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waterrtbh: : sings: We've only just begun.....
stateofmind71: If this is what you like
waterrtbh: *smiles prettily*
stateofmind71: Then feel free
waterrtbh: no, I don't LIKE it, however your rude, crass bs is something I really don't like when you could be talking to a minor that MAY have serious weight issues, and unfortunately for you - you did not do enough research nor explore that what I do is protect people, especially kids.
stateofmind71: I see
stateofmind71: Well your profile is well suited for minors for sure
waterrtbh: yes, it is, on purpose
stateofmind71: But of course it is
waterrtbh: I draw in lost children who seek out freaky shit and need help
waterrtbh: THEN I help them
stateofmind71: You're a saint
waterrtbh: no - I'm responsible for every kid who's parents are more interested in Jerry Springer than in the fact that their kid is going to shoot up a school
stateofmind71: You deserve more out of life what? smoking crack like you?
stateofmind71: Maybe you should go into polotics nice spelling huh?
waterrtbh: funny enough, I get to choose what I want out of life. So I have.
stateofmind71: You have?
stateofmind71: Do tell
waterrtbh: I have a personally gratifying life with my kids, my job, my husband and my online radio station that has done a ton of good for teenagers that needed it.
waterrtbh: what have you done
stateofmind71: I have made myself happy how exactly are you happy if you're IM'ing me with insults?
stateofmind71: It says you're single?
stateofmind71: On your profile
waterrtbh: good for you. Thats the most selfish response I have ever heard out of anyone, you win the idiot prize
waterrtbh: of course it says I'm single, it also doesn't say my age because I tell people later in private when I feel they really want to know and aren't just IM'ing me out of the blue to call me  afat hairy old man who smells like fish
waterrtbh: I should design my yahoo profile after YOUR wants?
stateofmind71: How many idiots prizes are there?right now, just you'rs you bastage
waterrtbh: I think not
stateofmind71: Just be honest
stateofmind71: It isnt hard
waterrtbh: oh you know nothing about how honest I am when I am talking to someone, and not having some troll IM me out of nowhere about something he knows nothing about
stateofmind71: Like you did to me also
stateofmind71: Contradiction
stateofmind71: Its everywhere
waterrtbh: I didnt IM you out of nowhere
waterrtbh: you came after me
stateofmind71: Came after you?
waterrtbh: stateofmind71: You smell of male
stateofmind71: I see
stateofmind71: You told me you didnt want to talk
stateofmind71: That you had friends
stateofmind71: I said fine
waterrtbh: excuse me, I TRIED to talk to you - you purposefully tried to make ME do what YOU wanted, which was obviously to send you "female pics of myself" ... tell me - are you a pedophile, and this is how you force teenagers to give you porn? you HAVE to love my twist on this, c'mon throw me a bone!
stateofmind71: That is slander
stateofmind71: Also
waterrtbh: no, it's merely a question
stateofmind71: No it is slander
waterrtbh: dont quote law to me, I've been tested by many
stateofmind71: Unfortuanatly new laws online promote the fact that this can now be used in law courts spelling agin! are you drinking you lifeless jerk?
stateofmind71: Becareful what you say
waterrtbh: oh, and q***** would like me to tell you that you are now officially adopted as our pet troll, and that he hopes you survive, because she never had a tamagotchi that lived.
stateofmind71: Because i will not be attacked by a low life like yourself
stateofmind71: Now
stateofmind71: Go away
stateofmind71: You have been warned
waterrtbh: you can go away now, and don't worry - I know that nothing I said was slander AND that nothing I said is illegal.
waterrtbh: YOU messaged me, that is public, and proven by my back up server and I have already worked with law enforcement prior to you coming along asking for me to prove that I am female.this is a true pig, and beware any pedophiles out here, if I catch you - i will make sure that you suffer
stateofmind71: Our conversations have ended
waterrtbh: you are still messaging me, and I asked you to stop
stateofmind71: Good luck with your life and views,but leave me alone from now on
waterrtbh: and you asked me to stop
waterrtbh: stop messaging me

So actually - I have to legally stop messaging him, or he can claim harrassment....






but no one else is under those same restictions.









I love being smart.

[water]

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[tommie gorman]

That is a shame. But thanks to the media, it will do nothing but get worse. Until the media starts to be under some type of control. Probably never! 

[JokeyMcScrotsack]

Hell Ill message him he can sue me for slander all day long. Watch me "harrass" this lil punk. Wish me luck.

[tommie gorman]

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Kick his ass, Shug!!