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#1 toast6977

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Posted 23 December 2006 - 11:13 PM

Ok. My speed tests are showing steady around 9.66mbps, and up is @ .9


But, no matter what torrent I connect to, whether it has 10 seeds or 250, I can connect to tons of seeds and peers, but no speed!

I'm not a newb to the torrent world, so after testing many, many different files.... I have decided that Insight must have started throttling bittorrent or something..   anyone have any other clues or rationales?

Thursday Night I downloaded an 8gb file @ 1200kb, and since yesterday morning nothing will move faster than 5kbps.... never had a problem with it before.

Thanks!
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#2 TimPawlak

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Posted 23 December 2006 - 11:25 PM

make sure your ports are forwarded correctly.... that should work right

#3 TimPawlak

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Posted 23 December 2006 - 11:26 PM

BTW, Welcome to the fourms... enjoy your stay here at TMN

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 12:48 AM

I have no problems what so ever with bit torrent.  I was able to pull off the latest version of SuSE in under 2 hours on a bit torrent connection.   That is 3.1Gb ish?  Like Tim suggested check your port forward and you might want to change your client.  I have found that UTorrent runs pretty well on Insight.  I know that someone keeps a list of ISPs that throttle torrent traffic and so far I have not seen Insight on the list.   If I can find the list I will post it for ya.

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:58 AM

if you have UNPN off in your router turn it on for when you are doing bit torrent.

#6 toast6977

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 10:24 AM

Well, I suppose I failed to mention that part of it.

I'm not behind a router, plugged straight to modem, and haven't had problems w/ BT until last week, there were burps right after the upgrade, but the speed tests reflected those as well.... generally when my speed tests are fine, BT runs great too.


- sorry for leaving that out!

#7 natatkinson

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 02:58 PM

insightbb has started traffic shapping(throtting) not more than 2 weeks ago.  So that blows, but if you use RC4 encryption (included in azureus, but you have to turn it on) then you can get some speed, but not full speed back. :cry2:

#8 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:05 PM

how do you know this, i dont belive it

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:07 PM

also read this guide from Shug http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-890

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Now then the whole nasty situation of "ports" comes into this equation. In the old days only those with a router needed to change their port settings in order to download fast (remember a router will act as a firewall and not allow others to share files from your computer so nobody will share with you.) but today isp's are blocking or limiting the ports that BT uses which is 6881-6889 by default. They are doing this so that you will not be able to share quickly with others and use the isp's bandwidth.

So lets fix this problem, when you start Azureus the wizard will guide you through picking a port. Don't pick a port between 6881-6889, this can cause slow speeds. Once you have picked your port you will be able to test it to see if this port is open and working. If your test comes out good your ready to go. If not the next section will tackle port forwarding and firewalls.

VanBuren :)

#10 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:10 PM

heh!! lol

#11 natatkinson

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:12 PM

I have not been told my anyone at insight, but I have enough evidence to conclude this.

1. I have never had any problems with my router/modem, or any of my connections, until suddenly one day mu connection went shitty.

2. I changed nothing, but my torrent speeds went bad

3.  I have searched the internet, and many other people have said they same thing.

4.  My internet speed is still great

5.  When I use encryption (RC4 with azureus) then I get some torrent speed back, but still not full

So thats enough evidence for me, it really couldn't be anything else.  especially since more people in central illinois (my location) are experiencing the same problem.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:13 PM

i have switched ports, I am no newb at torrents.  this is most obviously traffic shapping.

but if there are other people here on insightbb, I welcome there idea, because I, of course, do not know everything, so it would be awesome if it wasn't traffic shapping and we could fix our speed problems  :wink2:

#13 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 04:56 PM

i have no problem at all doing torrents..and i'm on insightbb

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 05:40 PM

I could be mistaken then.  I would appreciate any help I could get.  I am using azureus, I have upnp enabled, and I have tried changing my port #'s randomly.  I had been using torrents succesfully for years on this same hardware setup with no problems and easily getting 250 kbs down, and 120kbs up.  I have tried taking my router out of the loop, and connecting my computer directly to the modem.  I have tried changing my ip address, I have tried no upnp, I have different clients besided azureus.  Currently I am getting all green lights, but without encryption enabled, I get 5kbs max, but with encryption I can get up to 80kbs down and 100kbs up.

Let me know if I should try other things.  Thanks for your help.  I may also try and give insightbb and call monday, and see if they say anything.

#15 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 05:42 PM

no problem, insightbb has been okay to us besides the fact that they went to level3 backbone =(

#16 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 05:57 PM

ok i take it back, i am now getting tops 10 kb/s

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 06:00 PM

yeah, it sucks.  let me know if you can figure anything out, cause traffic shaping was all I could get, but hopefully you can find out something more, and maybe get a solution.

#18 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 06:04 PM

8:02:38 PM  You Does InsightBB throttle torrents?   
8:03:07 PM  Adam C Not that I am currently aware of   
8:03:31 PM  You ok because i used to be able to download at very high speeds, now its at a max of 30 kb/s   
8:03:53 PM  You 25*   
8:04:18 PM  Adam C That could be the torrents - when high bandwidth seeders drop offline it redistributes the torrent load to those connected at the time.   
8:04:28 PM  You ok   
8:04:29 PM  You thanks   

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 06:26 PM

yeah, the problem isn't the torrent, I have tried many different torrents, and I get the same results all the time.  The the speed is constantly slow, and not just slow when seeders disconnect.  That guy is full of it.

#20 TimPawlak

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 06:38 PM

lol iono wat to think





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