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[Conuck]

Subject: The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska's
Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence
on foreign oil.

      A MUST READ!

                      The U. S. Geological Service issued a report in
April ('08) that only scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man
was it big.

It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since '95) on how
much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota; western
South Dakota; and extreme eastern Montana ..... check THIS out:
  The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery
since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to eliminate all
American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information
Administration
(EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels.. Even if just 10% of the oil
is recoverable... at $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base
worth more than $5.3 trillion.

  'When I first briefed legislators on this, you
could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.' says
Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.
  'This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found
in the past 56 years.' reports, The Pittsburgh Post Gazette.
It's a formation known as the Williston Basin, but is
more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.'  And it stretches from Northern
Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada.  For years, U. S. oil
exploration has been considered a dead end.  Even the 'Big Oil'
companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago.
However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's
massive reserves.... and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels.
And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost
Americans just $16 PER BARREL!

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 41 years
straight.
And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor,  the this next one should -
  because it's from TWO YEARS AGO!

                      U. S.. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World!
                    Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the
largest
untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels.
On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a
half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this motherload
of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?

They reported this stunning news:  We have more oil inside our borders,
than all the other proven reserves on earth. Here are the official
estimates:
                        - 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
                        - 18-times as much oil as Iraq
                        - 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
                        - 22-times as much oil as Iran
                        - 500-times as much oil as Yemen
                      - and it's all right here in the Western United
States .

    HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this?

  Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to
  help America become independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a
  small group of people dictate our lives and our economy....WHY?

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says
we've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle
East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped.  That's more than all the
proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reports The Denver
Post.

Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price - even  with
this find?  Think again!  It's all about the competitive marketplace, -
it has to. Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?

  Got your attention/ire up yet?  Hope so!  Now,
while you're thinking about it .... and hopefully P.O'd, do this:

  Pass this along.  If you don't take a little time to do this, then you
should stifle yourself the next time you want to complain about gas prices
.....
because by doing NOTHING, you've forfeited your right to complain.

  Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if every one of you
  sent this to every one in your address book.

                      By the way...this is all true. Check it out at the
link below!!!

                      GOOGLE it or follow this link.  It will blow your
mind.
                      http://www.usgs.gov/...cle.asp?ID=1911

                http://www.usgs.gov/corecast/.

Lack of leadership. This country hasn't had a real leader since Teddy
Roosevelt.

AND, the future doesn't look any better.

[tommie gorman]

Great find, but I still say we need to say screw oil driven cars though, so we do not depend on rich folks for the black shit, and also for the ecology. Electric all the way. Or nuclear. 

[ghostmaster]

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Great find, but I still say we need to say screw oil driven cars though, so we do not depend on rich folks for the black shit, and also for the ecology. Electric all the way. Or nuclear. 

Holy crap!  I agree with you!  Even if we find 30 zillion barrels worth of oil, that doesn't mean we should pump it and burn it.  We need to be rid of the stuff for good.  Even if you don't believe in global warming,  there is always smog to worry about.  I say, hydrogen all the way!

[tdawnaz]

that email should have included a link on where to find ur states senators...send that in an email to them along with the deely about electric cars...the gov't needs to hear from the taxpayers...the citizens...tell each other all is good...but it's big brother that really needs to hear us loud and clear...cuz of the internet americans and the world are more informed that any other time in history...

http://www.senate.go...enators_cfm.cfm

and i agree we need and have viable alternative energy sources that need further development and marketing

[mudmanc4]

We, the people, have as of this post, lost almost entirely the control of our own daily lives. Interestingly enough, the same people that complain about who controls us, not rules us, or governs us, those same people that will read this, and pass it along to make themselves "feel" as if there doing something by forwarding information, will continually vote from the local level, up to the top, people that do nothing more than place more laws, more regulations, more corruption then the last.

I stand by the thoughts of a few, in general, as a rule, people are just plain pathetically fucking stupid. I don't mean apethetic, or absent minded, I seriously mean to say that as a constant in this country, the general IQ of the American is so low, and the will to survive on a daily basis without a crutch of someone else nearly telling them when they can scratch there ass, (and how long) that they can , and are manipulated to the nth degree on nearly a cellular level.

Amoeba , thats it.

So just give up, save your energy, and go buy all the Chinese trash your house will hold, make sure to fill every flat spot in your house with trivial trinkets that have absolutely no use whatsoever. Take your check when you get it, welfare or whatever, go out to the advertised to oblivion store of your mentally programmed mush for brain, buy all those movies you just can't live without collecting dust, and whatever else you get the compulsive urge to put on the milk ladden conveyor on your bloated credit card, on the way home after the rush of your purchasing splurge, stop in to a sludge bar ( macdonalds wendys , whatever) and grab yourself a heart attack in a bun. Enjoy your meaningless life. Forget about oil. You already have , see how easy that was, if you even had the attention span to read this post? Or were you looking for something with a bit more instantanious substance that fufills your compulsive neurological chronic bipolar lifestyle?


EDIT~  I thought I'de better say I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, but we all know who. The other guy.

[tdawnaz]

that was good muddy...not very productive...somewhat true...but without real substance...but i understand the point that you're making...

we can make a change...for the better...maybe only a little...but a difference none the less...

it's only if we sit back complacent and do nothing that we are at the complete mercy of the powers that be...

i for one refuse to be controlled by entities i cannot see...and people that i do not know...or for that matter, people that i do know

don't even infer that because i exist that my brain is sludge or incapable of complete thought process or that i have some need to feed a condition that doesn't exist. i refuse to believe that this is the norm for most people...

america does need to wake up...we HAVE voted in some of the most diabolical leaders, the likes of which the world hasn't seen in a very long time...that will if we don't keep our eyes WIDE OPEN...lead us to a state of being that we truly don't want and who do not stand for what this country stands for...it's up to the people...to stand strong

[tommie gorman]

We ALLOW rights to be taken away. And one day our kids have to put up with what we did, including these ignorant bailouts that are making the rich richer. America is not free compared to 40+ years ago.

And some almost interesting dribble there muddy, did you even have your coffee first? 

[mudmanc4]

I'll accept both of your posts a standard answers.  Denial, and the ridicule. There is more than enough substance , just too much all at once.

This country is proven itself to be nothing more than consumers of an intoxicating drink called lust, lust for "status" in such a social world , that that alone keeps us intentionally separated from realty.

[tdawnaz]

no denial in my post...it's all about accepting or not

and i don't think muddys post was dribble at all...

and muddy u read my post wrong...

[tommie gorman]

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I'll accept both of your posts a standard answers.  Denial, and the ridicule. There is more than enough substance , just too much all at once.

This country is proven itself to be nothing more than consumers of an intoxicating drink called lust, lust for "status" in such a social world , that that alone keeps us intentionally separated from realty.

Thanks for the translation, I understand and agree with that. 

[mudmanc4]

I suppose I waited the appropriate amount of time to finalize my thoughts on the oil issue.

The original post, and what the thread was supposed to be discussed about has been sidetracked, or "hijacked" by simply changing the pattern of emphasis to  "feelings" vs. action.

  The point here is, not that there is enough oil in the ground here in the US, or that a couple squids are stopping anyone from actually using it.

The point is that the natural instinct to do something about our way of life is to follow the thoughts of others. So we get sidetracked very easily.

I don't mean any disrespect in any of this, and I can't exclude myself. 

But the topic went from getting hold of our senators ect. , to something in left field. So how many people are actually going to do anything about this?And then follow through ? Not many, and people get tired of it, and find other more exiting, newer issues to get worked up over.

Too bad too, because as a whole we finally decide what goes on, but were slowly and surely losing that power. We elect people to do all this thinking, and worrying for us, then they turn there backs on us, and poke us in the pooper 

So anyhow, take a second, search your senators number down, and make a call, when we all do that, they take notice, remember ?


I have started a new thread that contains a directory of all of the people that we need to have on speed dial , thats right, those turkeys in Washongton    So use it, it only takes a second, and your senator will get the your opinion, no lost links, no getting lost from searching,  ( we all do it ) 

Follow this link

[RyanS]

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We ALLOW rights to be taken away. And one day our kids have to put up with what we did, including these ignorant bailouts that are making the rich richer. America is not free compared to 40+ years ago.

that reminds me of a quote from george carlin.  "I remember the freedoms we USED to have"

[JokeyMcScrotsack]

Well thats great... if your a rich oil man. The rich will get richer off of it and the lil guy will be paid as little as possible to get the oil. Sweeeeet. It will be nice to keep the money here though.

[sparky]

Maybe the OPEC countries want to buy from us? $300 a barrel to start off with.

BLOOD SUCKERS.

LOL

[ghostmaster]

http://www.snopes.co...line/bakken.asp

Im just going to throw that out there.  Snopes has a good track record of putting things into perspective...

[JokeyMcScrotsack]

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http://www.snopes.co...line/bakken.asp

Im just going to throw that out there.  Snopes has a good track record of putting things into perspective...

Well even if there is more oil there than anywhere else I would hope we have learned our lesson about oil dependance and will move forward a little bit for God sakes.  I mean we were using oil when the Wright Bros discovered powered flight or when the first car rolled off the lines. Here we are... A century later... We have gone to the moon and can send satelites out of our solar system. We still argue and fight over the same old ass technology.  God humans are dumb. I mean dumb, like really dumb. This is not in response to you ghost, just in general.

[mudmanc4]

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Well even if there is more oil there than anywhere else I would hope we have learned our lesson about oil dependance and will move forward a little bit for God sakes.  I mean we were using oil when the Wright Bros discovered powered flight or when the first car rolled off the lines. Here we are... A century later... We have gone to the moon and can send satelites out of our solar system. We still argue and fight over the same old ass technology.  God humans are dumb. I mean dumb, like really dumb. This is not in response to you ghost, just in general.

[sparky]

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Well even if there is more oil there than anywhere else I would hope we have learned our lesson about oil dependance and will move forward a little bit for God sakes.  I mean we were using oil when the Wright Bros discovered powered flight or when the first car rolled off the lines. Here we are... A century later... We have gone to the moon and can send satelites out of our solar system. We still argue and fight over the same old ass technology.  God humans are dumb. I mean dumb, like really dumb. This is not in response to you ghost, just in general.

Nicely put Shug!

[ghostmaster]

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Well even if there is more oil there than anywhere else I would hope we have learned our lesson about oil dependance and will move forward a little bit for God sakes.  I mean we were using oil when the Wright Bros discovered powered flight or when the first car rolled off the lines. Here we are... A century later... We have gone to the moon and can send satelites out of our solar system. We still argue and fight over the same old ass technology.  God humans are dumb. I mean dumb, like really dumb. This is not in response to you ghost, just in general.