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[mudmanc4]

I dont mean to bug, but have you tried running fixdsk  yet ? 

[prairiedogsplatr]

freezes before i can get into recovery console but as soon as i get it that far will do for sure.

and no such thing as buggin when the person is asking for help

[mudmanc4]

Well then if the system freezes when you try booting from the cd , then it's definitely not in the hard drive.

So thats ruled out.

You said there was a significant amount of heat coming from the case, or fan exits, have you looked to see if the CPU cooler was clogged up with junk ?

[prairiedogsplatr]

i tried getting it apart but got stuck on the back end thing would not come apart grr. i can shine a lite in there and no dust or anything. took can of air and blew in there not much of anything came out.

[prairiedogsplatr]

Same thing with Ultimate bootdisk gets to a certain amount of time and freezes no matter what part of it i use

[mudmanc4]

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i tried getting it apart but got stuck on the back end thing would not come apart grr. i can shine a lite in there and no dust or anything. took can of air and blew in there not much of anything came out.

So you can't get the case open ?

Well just blowing air into the case through a hole isn't going to do a thing. You need to get that case open, some of them can be tricky, just work with it, you'll get it.

You need to blow the crap out of the fins in the CPU heat sink , I'm taking a good stab at the fact that it's so packed because chances are, it's never been opened, like most .

[prairiedogsplatr]

after i get my stuff for this other laptop i got torn apart and get it back together i will get this one we talking about torn apart and will re paste it with good stuff. Probly be a few hours

[mudmanc4]

I know it might be a long shot, but you could put something like linux mint on a USB pen, and try booting to that, if it's enabled in the bios. Or even if it's available in the bios.

I'm stabbin in the dark on this ;/

[prairiedogsplatr]

could you specify more please
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

[mudmanc4]

Here's a perfect example of what causes heat issues within laptops. This is a Dell inspiron D810 blah blah whatever. They had the machine plugged in, and charging , while on the CARPET   , they crashed out for the night and left it to roast there, since the cool air intakes are on the bottom of the case, you guessed it. And the pic shows just how bad they can get. So when you spray air into the outlets, all your doing is pushing that junk back into the machine, not only to be charged somewhat statically, but to be later slurped back into the heatpipe radiator.


Small pic, i forgot to set the camera bigger, and I already used the mini vac to get rid of the stuff.  Press cntrl , and scroll wheel to get a bit closer




edit~ if anyone says "look, he's got the thing setting on the cpu omg " well, thats the old one  

[bigw]

What about the power supply over heating... had it happen to me more than once

[prairiedogsplatr]

Ok

the heatsink was clean as all ever somehow.... these people keep a very clean home. was some dust in the fan but not much. As for the thermal paste. Stuff on there was hard as a rock and not covering good. Came off way faster then other machines i have done and came off in clumps with no leftovers lol.
The machine currently is doing the same thing i was talking about before when i changed the ram and its not posting when i magically get it to work as in the other 4 times i will repost on results.

Had some OCZ freeze compound i am sure its better then the junk they had in there before.
If this does not work i think its a chipset in the machine and think this strongly.

[mudmanc4]

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If this does not work i think its a chipset in the machine and think this strongly.

I'm curious what brought you to this conclusion..........

[prairiedogsplatr]

Had a P4 machine do the same thing except i could stick my hands in the case. The chipset was getting way way too hott and it would freeze up the screen. This since the monitor wont kick on sometimes would be caused by the graphics chipset (maybe could be many things) Also ruling out ram and power supply helps narrow it down.

[prairiedogsplatr]

mudman do you think that it could not be the chipset? I only had this happen 1 time and it seems to be a rare problem from what i can tell.

Still tryn to boot this machine sigh

Will get it sometime soon.

[prairiedogsplatr]

anyone know if the toggle to use an external monitor for this machine IS KEYS FN + F4

Also assume that the 2 power supplys is causing problems if i was to use a voltage meter on it would the possitive go on the inside and the negative on the outside? I dont want to burn the psu on something thats not mine.

[mudmanc4]

Might be the PS.

W/O me reading this whole thread again, lol, Iv'e had my hands in too many different things in the last 24 hours, some things got shoved outta my memory,  so it freezes up with, or without  the hard drive in it, it freezes if you try to boot to a cd, you cant boot to anything whatso ever. You cant get into safe mode, all of this, right ?

If this is the case, then I'm going to say the CPU crapped itself.

[prairiedogsplatr]

Yes it pretty much freezes on anything that is done.
booting from xp or vista cd - freeze
bios left on too long - freeze
booting from ultimate boot disc - works longer will boot but ends up freeze buys it maybe a few more minutes

but as of now

Is not even showing picture on screen
The lite comes on and goes back off like it is having a power issue. So maybe i have 2 bad psu sitting here.

[mudmanc4]

Could be the video card then that crapped out. Which might be replaceable !


Nope, just checked, it's integrated.

Take the HDD out and boot to the UBCD

Well if you have  meter, then check it, see if it's sending what it should be .....

[prairiedogsplatr]

at the current time i am getting no picture on monitor trying to get it back this thing is buggin.....