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#1 zalternate

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 02:10 PM

A two year old article, but are you getting the true 'High Speed' that your Internet provider is giving to you?
And many people think that the 756Kbps should be listed as a minimum speed and the users speeds are not to drop below that.  


http://news.cnet.com...g=2547-1_3-0-20

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   March 19, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
WASHINGTON--As expected, federal regulators on Wednesday voted to overhaul the way they measure how widely broadband is available across the United States.

For years, the Federal Communications Commission has been drawing up reports on the state of U.S. Internet access availability based on methodology that considers 200 kilobits per second (Kbps) service to be "high speed"--and such access to be widely available even in ZIP codes that may, in reality, house only one connection.

The decision to move away from that methodology is potentially significant. Critics, both inside and outside the agency, have charged that the inadequacy of data that the FCC collects semiannually from Internet service providers hinders both the government's ability to set smart pro-broadband policies and could slow investment on the technology side. It could also help federal regulators determine whether the United States is really as far behind in broadband penetration as some international studies have suggested during the past few years.

If not for good government data, "our economy would come to a screeching halt," said Commissioner Michael Copps, a Democrat. For example, manufacturers depend on unemployment and gross domestic product figures to set their production targets, and schools and hospitals rely on U.S. Census numbers to project demand for their services, he said.

"When companies and investors put money into e-commerce or voice over Internet Protocol or Internet video...they need to know what kind of broadband infrastructure America actually has," Copps said.

Democratic Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein said, "This is really the first step toward the national broadband strategy that we so desperately need."

Despite his support for the new data collection method, FCC Chairman Kevin Martin said he believes the United States has made incredible strides in broadband deployment since he joined the commission in 2001, with the number of lines growing from 9 million to more than 100 million. Still, he acknowledged, "there is certainly more work to be done."

The FCC, as is typical, won't release the full text of the changes it adopted for a few weeks, but here's a rundown of major components described at Wednesday's meeting:

• 200Kbps speeds are no longer considered "broadband." Until this point, the FCC has considered any service that produces 200Kbps speeds in the upload or download direction to be "high speed." With Wednesday's vote, that methodology is no more. Now, 768Kbps, which is the entry-level speed offered by major DSL providers like Verizon, will be considered the low end of "basic broadband," a range that extends to under 1.5Mbps.

• Broadband service speeds will have to be reported both for uploads and downloads. Previously the FCC had six big categories of broadband speeds, and they effectively only tracked download speeds. Now the agency says it will require reporting on upload speeds. Pro-regulatory advocacy groups like Free Press say that's a necessary step in part because of Comcast's admitted throttling of peer-to-peer file-sharing uploads.

• Upload and download speeds will have to be reported in a more specific way. At the moment, the broadband speeds most commonly offered by cable and telephone companies are lumped into two major categories: those between 200Kbps and 2.5Mbps, and those between 2.5Mbps and 10Mbps. The FCC's new rules would require them to be broken down further, in an attempt to address charges that the current buckets have the potential to overstate the number of high-end subscriptions and understate the number of low-end subscriptions. Those new tiers will be: 1) 200Kbps to 768Kbps ("first generation data"); 2) 768Kbps to 1.5Mbps ("basic broadband"); 3) 1.5Mbps to 3Mbps; 4) 3Mbps to 6Mbps; and 5) 6Mbps and above.

• ISPs will be required to report numbers of subscribers, and at the census-block level. Under the current methodology, ISPs report only the number of ZIP codes in which they have at least one subscriber, and they report numbers of lines nationwide. Now they'll have to report the number of subscribers in each census tract they serve, broken down by speed tier. The FCC decided to use census tracts because researchers may be able to use other demographic statistics collected by the U.S. Census, such as age and income level, to gain insight about what drives broadband penetration rates.

• ISPs will not have to report the prices they charge....yet. Democratic commissioners and liberal consumer advocacy groups had argued such a step is necessary to give consumers an idea of the value they're getting for their money--and to compare U.S. prices to those for comparable services abroad. Copps said on Wednesday that he continues to believe it's a "mistake" to omit that requirement, and Adelstein also voiced concern. But a majority of the commissioners opted to push that decision off until another time and gather more comments.

Each of the five commissioners voted in favor of adopting the order, although some attached reservations about some portions of the rules. Adelstein said he would have liked to see the commission require that ISPs distinguish between residential and business customers when doing their reporting. Republican Commissioner Robert McDowell said he was concerned that some of the definitions contained in the rules--particularly that of broadband--could have negative long-term effects.

"Government cannot outguess the genius of free markets, nor should it try," McDowell said.

Representatives from the cable and telephone industry had advised the commission against making major changes to its data collection methods. They said they would not be able to comment on the FCC's vote Wednesday until after reviewing the full text of the order.

The old method's last gasp
In an ironic twist, at the same meeting, the commissioners narrowly voted to adopt the FCC's latest report about the state of American broadband deployment--except based on the old methodology that they went on to revamp. Because of that, Copps and Adelstein ripped apart the report and said they couldn't support its conclusions. (Martin, McDowell, and Republican Deborah Tate voted for adoption of the document.)

The report (PDF), which covers the first half of 2007, concluded that "broadband services are currently being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion."

High-speed lines--meaning, mind you, capable of 200Kbps or greater data transfer speeds--grew from 82 million to 100 million lines during that time, the FCC said. Its report also found that an Internet service provider reported having at least one connection in 99 percent of the country's ZIP codes, and that 99 percent of the American population lives in those ZIP codes.

Copps, for one, called the ZIP code methodology "stunningly meaningless."

"I'm happy we're starting to change our benchmarks," he said, "but my goodness, how late in the day it is."

The FCC's actions drew mixed reviews from groups who have been pressing for better broadband data and Net neutrality rules.

Gigi Sohn, the president of Public Knowledge, one such group, commended the FCC's new data collection plan, although she said she would have preferred to see price data included and information about residential and commercial customers separated. She also deemed it a "mystery" that the FCC also chose to issue the broadband availability report "when, mere moments later, the Commission admitted the inadequacy of the information."
  

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:20 PM

In this case of the High Speed, the provider needs to support their features so that the customer will satisfy at them. They will catch a customer satisfaction, in fact, that they were getting a High Speed,not only to the network but also to their services.

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:18 PM

View PostJayKriz, on 17 March 2010 - 10:20 PM, said:

In this case of the High Speed, the provider needs to support their features so that the customer will satisfy at them. They will catch a customer satisfaction, in fact, that they were getting a High Speed,not only to the network but also to their services.
It would be a royal pain but someone should make up and coverage map like the cell providers use and exclude homes with satt connections and cell connections and just show where broadband is and isn't and I would be willing to bet it would blow peoples minds just how much of the country really does not have any "real" broadband.  Local fixed wireless providers try but the infastructure for any real coverage that way costs so much out of their own pockets that it is hard to get anywhere. With all the Crappy trash reports everyone is seeing then there is little to no hope for rural people unless someone does a real in depth study in national census type fashion.
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:06 AM

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US happy with 4Mbps baseline; Europe demands 30Mbps for all
By Matthew Lasar | Last updated 2 days ago

The grand master plan for European broadband is out, and one target leaves the United States in the digital dust—a goal of 30 Mbps "or above" for all Europeans by 2020. So says the European Commission's Digital Agenda for Europe, which also wants 50 percent of EU households subscribed to links of 100Mbps or more by that year.

"Today only 1 percent of Europeans have a fast fibre-based internet connection, compared to 12 percent of Japanese and 15 percent of South Koreans," the document laments. "Europe needs widely available and competitively priced fast and ultra fast internet access."
No suboptimals please

The European Commission is the policy arm of the European Union. Needless to say, Europe isn't jealously comparing itself to the United States, high-speed Internet-wise. Here our supposedly bold and fearless Federal Communications Commission thinks it's cool by setting a pokey universal broadband goal of 4Mbps, sans fiber, which the agency says costs too much.

Not the EC, which is wringing its hands over the lack of fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) build-out in Europe. That's even less than the US's two percent, Digital Agenda ruefully notes.

Beyond all the sturm und drang, however, it isn't entirely clear how the EC hopes to reach its goals. "Without strong public intervention" the continent risks "a sub-optimal outcome," the document warns. So expect a "communication" from the Commission some time soon outlining a common framework for development.

What will this compendium say? "For instance," Digital Agenda says, "the competent authorities should ensure: that public and private civil engineering works systematically provide for broadband networks and in-building wiring; clearing of rights of way; and mapping of available passive infrastructure suitable for cabling."

Great, but that isn't terribly different from language found in the FCC's National Broadband Plan. The government should establish policies "for the use of spectrum and oversee access to poles, conduits, rooftops and rights-of-way, which are used in the deployment of broadband networks," our NPB recommends. "Ensuring these assets and resources are allocated and managed efficiently can encourage deployment of broadband infrastructure and lower barriers to competitive entry."

And the European broadband situation is also very similar to the US in another respect: 30 percent of Europeans also don't use the 'Net, the EC report discloses.
One iTunes store to rule them all

But while Europeans aren't looking to the US for leadership when it comes to broadband speed goals, they do see us as way ahead on another front: the online music scene. Americans download four times as many tunes as Germans, Britons, and Swedes, "because of the lack of legal offers and fragmented markets" in Europe—not that Euro-trade associations aren't plenty peeved at the illegal download rate.

"Citizens should be able to enjoy commercial services and cultural entertainment across borders," the report observes. "But EU online markets are still separated by barriers which hamper access to pan-European telecoms services, digital services and content."

At this point, if iTunes or an equivalent wanted to set up a Euro-wide online music store, Digital Agenda notes, it would have to bargain with rights management organizations in over two dozen countries. Thus consumers can still stroll across national borders to buy CDs (and many still prefer to do so), but can't do the same online because of national rights policies. And 92 percent of consumers who buy stuff on the Euro-net do so via national sellers, rather than cross-border vendors.

The lack of progress in these areas has also set Europe back in the development of online content, the EC gripes. "The EU is falling behind in markets such as media services, both in terms of what consumers can access, and in terms of business models that can create jobs in Europe," the report complains. "Most of the recent successful Internet businesses (such as Google, eBay, Amazon and Facebook)" have originated (euphemism alert) "outside of Europe."

So it's time to open up access to legal content by streamlining transborder licensing and copyright clearance, the policy doc recommends, on three fronts. First, proposing a "directive on collective rights management" by the end of this year. Second, setting up cross-European policies on orphan works and out-of-print items, supported by rights information databases. And finally, updating the EC's policies on the reuse of public sector data.

Digital Agenda also urges the Commission to update its cybersecurity rules, noting that only 12 percent of Europeans say they feel "completely safe" making online transactions. And the report promises, as did the EC's Digital Agenda boss Neelie Kroes last month, that updated net neutrality provisions are in the works—maybe.

The Commission will launch a "public consultation" before this summer "on whether additional guidance is required, in order to secure the basic objectives of freedom of expression, transparency," and "the need for investment in efficient and open networks."

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 10:19 AM

View PostWebUser, on 23 May 2010 - 03:06 AM, said:



Europe is getting about 3 or 4 high throughput Internet satellites up and running by the end of this year. So theres not going to be any 30Mbps per user on those.  More like 10Mbps at the top.


But I am for DSL at 4Mbps to everyone as a baseline. Since phone lines are at the house already and a small subsidy per node should get those lines capable with DSL equipment.
Except many subsidies go to general funds instead of expansion of Internet to user's who can't get high speed. But thats what happens when lobbyists make a giant loophole into the subsidy contract.
Lobbyists Big ISP's in the States actually sue towns to prevent the towns from putting in their own fiber to the home. And then the Judge 'allows' the court case to drag out for years, resulting in the town canceling the whole thing due to fiber funding being lost in court costs.

Canada has some provinces with 100% Internet coverage. Unfortunately, large portions of the 100% coverage are via WISP's and Satellite. Even in areas that could of been served via wireline. Theres nothing wrong with using wireless in remote areas, but when it's a small town, it's a crock.  



http://news.cnet.com...10374831-2.html

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Finland's Ministry of Transport and Communications has made 1-megabit broadband Web access a legal right, YLE, the country's national broadcasting company, reported on Wednesday.

According to the report, every person in Finland (a little over 5 million people, according to a 2009 estimate) will have the right of access to a 1Mb broadband connection starting in July. And they may ultimately gain the right to a 100Mb broadband connection.

Just more than a year ago, Finland said it would make a 100Mb broadband connection a legal right by the end of 2015. Wednesday's announcement is considered an intermediate step.

France, one of a few countries that has made Internet access a human right, did so earlier this year. France's Constitutional Council ruled that Internet access is a basic human right. That said, it stopped short of making "broadband access" a legal right. Finland says that it's the first country to make broadband access a legal right.

But Finland's definition of "access" to broadband is a little fuzzy. According to the Helsinki Times when it reported the 100Mb target last year, the Finnish government said that no household "would be farther than 2 kilometers from a connection capable of delivering broadband Internet with a capacity of at least 100 megabits of data a second." It did say, though, that "about 2,000 (households) in far-flung corners of the country" wouldn't be included. Ostensibly, Finland plans to keep that same distribution when its 1Mb broadband access is implemented.

Finland has long been a tech-industry leader that has done a fine job investing in technology, more than many of its European counterparts. It's also home to Nokia, among other tech firms.  

Edited by zalternate, 23 May 2010 - 10:22 AM.

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