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19 hours ago, Pgoodwin1 said:

What makes you think the ookla speed test is giving you the truth? Just because your ISP says you get "up to 5Mbps", that doesn't mean your throughput from the Internet is at that plan max.

 

go read all the tabs here. It will help you understand that many ookla based speed tests were picked by ISPs just because they were created to show a high speed

 

Come on, are you not reading what I wrote there? I did not ascertain my internet speed just from the ookla results. I mentioned that after my testmy.net results were complete, I downloaded something, and I got proper speeds there! That proves that testmy.net was wrong for me. According to a 5 mbps connection, I should be getting around 640 kb/s speed, and that's what I got. But testmy.net should my download speed 241 kb/s.

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4 hours ago, TestMySeemsWrong said:

 

Come on, are you not reading what I wrote there? I did not ascertain my internet speed just from the ookla results. I mentioned that after my testmy.net results were complete, I downloaded something, and I got proper speeds there! That proves that testmy.net was wrong for me. According to a 5 mbps connection, I should be getting around 640 kb/s speed, and that's what I got. But testmy.net should my download speed 241 kb/s.

 

What it proves is that you were running slower to that server.  You should test against other servers and also multithread.  I see now that you switched to a server in India (much closer to you) and you were able to get close to 5 Mbps so it looks like you may have already figured that out.  Your speed will vary depending on where you're testing against, that's why I offer those extra servers and options.

 

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You get much slower speed to New York... pretty common at that distance.  

 

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You have to route through a lot to get there.  Are there providers that can provide the same level of service at that distance?  Yes, usually on the high end commercial or private.

 

TestMy.net isn't wrong.  You just don't like what it told you.   ...if you read around here you'll see it's a pretty common theme, my results don't always match the other guys.  That's because this isn't the other guys test.  I'm not trying to make friends, I'm trying to make a faster Internet.

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That is pretty cool, wish someone would help me a little bit like that! I have Straight Talk and they use Verizon network in my area and I should be getting pretty good speeds but it seems like somehow they slow it down or something because my girlfriend has Verizon and she gets like 9 megabits per second & I get like 1 megabit/sec in the same spot. I have called them numerous times on many occassions & they just tell me to dial *22890 for their over the air programing over and over & over & over again; that's all they can do, or know how to do I guess. people they're mentioned that I needed to reload my phone which would mean wiping my phone clean and then reinstalling it from factory default like that maybe I had a virus in it or something or there was a problem with settings somewhere that we couldn't find & that was causing a problem with the phone and

Finally, Straighttalk services in Susanville, Ca suggested we call Verizon network whom is their provider up in that area and maybe have them tweak something in the network or on my phone I guess.

 

If you have any comments on this or any answers to boost speed on this issue, please let me know and I will go from there, I thank you &, or anyone very much for your consideration and, or time 4 any thoughts, ideas, or direction forward.

 

Thank You!!

Ty 

 

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27 minutes ago, Tyrod said:

That is pretty cool, wish someone would help me a little bit like that! I have Straight Talk and they use Verizon network in my area and I should be getting pretty good speeds but it seems like somehow they slow it down or something because my girlfriend has Verizon and she gets like 9 megabits per second & I get like 1 megabit/sec in the same spot. I have called them numerous times on many occassions & they just tell me to dial *22890 for their over the air programing over and over & over & over again; that's all they can do, or know how to do I guess. people they're mentioned that I needed to reload my phone which would mean wiping my phone clean and then reinstalling it from factory default like that maybe I had a virus in it or something or there was a problem with settings somewhere that we couldn't find & that was causing a problem with the phone and

Finally, Straighttalk services in Susanville, Ca suggested we call Verizon network whom is their provider up in that area and maybe have them tweak something in the network or on my phone I guess.

 

If you have any comments on this or any answers to boost speed on this issue, please let me know and I will go from there, I thank you &, or anyone very much for your consideration and, or time 4 any thoughts, ideas, or direction forward.

 

Thank You!!

Ty 

 

 

If that's all StraightTalk will do for you, I would exit them and find a better ISP. As your provider, they are responsible for supporting you and not just passing you off to to Verizon.

 

are you testing using your home internet wireless connection or through the phone service (wireless)?

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When I had a router that was bad (intermittent), SpeedTest never reported the erratic results. During the tests, you could see that the speed plot had big variances in it, but when the end of test results came up, the speed was right at my plan max. Not so here at TestMy. Them dropping out the lowest 30% of the data points was giving me the wrong numbers. The router was a piece of my equipment and TestMy helped identify that there really was a problem. The router finally really died.

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2 hours ago, Pgoodwin1 said:

When I had a router that was bad (intermittent), SpeedTest never reported the erratic results. During the tests, you could see that the speed plot had big variances in it, but when the end of test results came up, the speed was right at my plan max. Not so here at TestMy. Them dropping out the lowest 30% of the data points was giving me the wrong numbers.

I have the same experience with 4G (cellular LTE) based broadband connections, such as when positioning a directional antenna.  When the network is quiet (e.g. early on a weekend morning), there can be a large variation between what SpeedTest and TestMy reports if the antenna is not aimed correctly.  Once the antenna is carefully aimed, the TestMy results climb up towards what Speedtest reports.  It's similar also if there are swaying branches in line of sight as Speedtest will again ignore the brief dips as if the bandwidth is sustained. 

 

If Speedtest measured road trip speeds, their speed test methodology would eliminate traffic lights, construction zones, slow vehicles, busy junctions and everything else that accounted for the slowest 30% of the journey.

 

If TestMy measured road trips, it would run a stopwatch from the moment of departure to the moment of arrival.

 

Of course like the Speedtest fanatics, there would be those that would argue the same for road trip measurements - "What if that construction zone was not there, those traffic lights were green, no accident on the route, ..." 

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Today, during yet another worthless 'field tech' appointment re our Suddenlink ("suddenLYUNlinked" as we call them) speeds crawling along at amazing slow speeds, then spiking to very high (DL/incoming), then [the modem freaks out due to the spike, as explained to me once by a suddenlink phone tech support rep], I tried showing the TWO suddenlink tech employees that the site they wanted me to test at (https://SPACEfastDOTcom) was a 'flash-based' test and therefore not truly accurate for reasons detailed here at testmy.net. They refused to even consider what I was saying. (Typical suddenlink.)  I tried showing them the graph and the individual entries from the auto tests (both tmn and not, both DL/UP, and DL only) I've been running ever 10-15 mins. for days and days. Again, no interest.

Either they had no idea what I was talking about, or they just flat out weren't interested in any info source that conflicted with their canned 'you're getting exactly [the speeds] what you are supposed to' canned, unhelpful, useless speech. They refused TO EVEN LOOK at the screenshot I'd saved on the 'why flash tests aren't accurate' testmy.net website info page.

And the fight continues......... (after one tech actually agreed that I might just have to switch to 56k dial-up fro days of old..... figures, right?)

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On 11/30/2016 at 6:21 PM, suddenLYUNlinked said:

Either they had no idea what I was talking about, or they just flat out weren't interested in any info source that conflicted with their canned 'you're getting exactly [the speeds] what you are supposed to' canned, unhelpful, useless speech. They refused TO EVEN LOOK at the screenshot I'd saved on the 'why flash tests aren't accurate' testmy.net website info page.

And the fight continues......... 

 

Thank you for spreading the word, I love your username.  Noticed you online here and there before you posted and it made me laugh.

The ISPs don't seem to like me these days.  I get no love from them anymore.   :-/  --- good thing I didn't make this site for them.  :occasion14:

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On 9/20/2016 at 9:48 AM, Sean said:

If Speedtest measured road trip speeds, their speed test methodology would eliminate traffic lights, construction zones, slow vehicles, busy junctions and everything else that accounted for the slowest 30% of the journey.

 

If TestMy measured road trips, it would run a stopwatch from the moment of departure to the moment of arrival.

 

Of course like the Speedtest fanatics, there would be those that would argue the same for road trip measurements - "What if that construction zone was not there, those traffic lights were green, no accident on the route, ..." 

 

Great analogy!

 

For those who'd argue "What if that construction zone was not there, those traffic lights were green, no accident on the route, ..." 

 

Do you want to know how long it might take if everything were perfect... or would you rather know the true amount of time it will take?  Who cares about the time it would take if there were no variables, it's irrelevant if it can never be achieved in the real world.  I don't know about you but if I set off on a road trip and Google Maps said, "6 hours" and then it ends up taking 24 hours because of stop lights, construction and speed limits (all known before)... I'd be really pissed.  I'd rather be told the truth with all things considered so that I can plan accordingly.

 

 

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Hey @jrtcjrjr,

 

I personally doubt Ookla the dead cat has any new tricks.

Though I'm sure Ca3le would know more technical knowledge.

 

Also I love the Sean's analogy as well! Who cares about "Ideal Situation Results". I'm not testing to see what my internet can give me at "Ideal" connection.

I am testing to see with all variables, what is going on with my connection.

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Let us examine some false information that TestMy.Net would like you to believe, but also let me clarify something before we start.

Do I believe the test results are accurate on this site? Yes, to a degree.

Now, the fact that this site says providers shouldn't have any part in the speed test process is ridiculous. Let me explain. Any service provider can only guarantee the speeds of their network, therefor we usually run speed tests that pull from our own servers. When you go off grid to different servers you take a journey across strange and far away lands. You cross other networks, other servers, and will get different paths at different times of day and night due to heavier or lighter internet traffic. Why should a provider like Spectrum or Comcast be to blame for slow speeds and poor connection when you are requesting information, or even a speed test, from someone else's network? Lets make it simple. If you bought a new car and the manufacturer promised that it would get 60MPG, that means under normal driving conditions, or keeping it on the smooth flat roads....in network. Now when you take that car across country, out of network, up and down mountains, back country roads, and mud holes...poorly maintained infrastructure, remote locations, bad servers...you let less MPG, or in our case Mbps. Are you gonna blame the car manufacturer for the lowered MPG when you took the car into strange locations? The bottom line is that any company can not be blamed for the performance of any outside networks. They can only be held responsible for their own network speeds. So in short, TestMy.Net is not testing your ISP against itself. It is testing your ISP along with every network along the way to the destination server, and then laying 100% of the blame on your ISP. If you are late to work, do you blame yourself and your car(assuming its in good working condition), or do you blame the condition of the roads and the traffic along your route to your final destination? Your boss blames you(TestMy.Net blames ISP), but you blame the conditions that you could not control. Smooth sailing until you get to the roads or near the destinations that everyone else is trying to get to. Even a Bugatti cant get you to work any faster when you travel on bad roads or in high congestion areas. Think about that. Your ISP spends money on its own maintenance and infrastructure. They don't give any thought to the health and performance of the competitors. It's a competition between companies, and any IPS can only guarantee advertised speeds when the internet traffic is processed in their own network.

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One word: Peering

 

As end users pay for an internet connection, not simply a good route through ISP nodes, where a flash test lives on internal networking, which can only be viable on that internal network.

 

Once ISPs shift toward creating a more efficient infrastructure across the continent, this will change.

If we use testmy.net a bit more, we can begin to verify where our network path flaws are located among the peers.

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On 12/07/2017 at 4:19 PM, CharterTech1084 said:

Let us examine some false information that TestMy.Net would like you to believe, but also let me clarify something before we start.

Do I believe the test results are accurate on this site? Yes, to a degree.

Now, the fact that this site says providers shouldn't have any part in the speed test process is ridiculous. Let me explain. Any service provider can only guarantee the speeds of their network, therefor we usually run speed tests that pull from our own servers. When you go off grid to different servers you take a journey across strange and far away lands. You cross other networks, other servers, and will get different paths at different times of day and night due to heavier or lighter internet traffic. Why should a provider like Spectrum or Comcast be to blame for slow speeds and poor connection when you are requesting information, or even a speed test, from someone else's network? Lets make it simple. If you bought a new car and the manufacturer promised that it would get 60MPG, that means under normal driving conditions, or keeping it on the smooth flat roads....in network. Now when you take that car across country, out of network, up and down mountains, back country roads, and mud holes...poorly maintained infrastructure, remote locations, bad servers...you let less MPG, or in our case Mbps. Are you gonna blame the car manufacturer for the lowered MPG when you took the car into strange locations? The bottom line is that any company can not be blamed for the performance of any outside networks. They can only be held responsible for their own network speeds. So in short, TestMy.Net is not testing your ISP against itself. It is testing your ISP along with every network along the way to the destination server, and then laying 100% of the blame on your ISP. If you are late to work, do you blame yourself and your car(assuming its in good working condition), or do you blame the condition of the roads and the traffic along your route to your final destination? Your boss blames you(TestMy.Net blames ISP), but you blame the conditions that you could not control. Smooth sailing until you get to the roads or near the destinations that everyone else is trying to get to. Even a Bugatti cant get you to work any faster when you travel on bad roads or in high congestion areas. Think about that. Your ISP spends money on its own maintenance and infrastructure. They don't give any thought to the health and performance of the competitors. It's a competition between companies, and any IPS can only guarantee advertised speeds when the internet traffic is processed in their own network.

 

 

 

I'm going to break things down bit.. by bit... by bit... because I can... and I'm bored.

 

"When you go off grid to different servers you take a journey across strange and far away lands. You cross other networks, other servers, and will get different paths at different times of day and night due to heavier or lighter internet traffic. Why should a provider like Spectrum or Comcast be to blame for slow speeds and poor connection when you are requesting information, or even a speed test, from someone else's network?"

 

Because most ISP actually guarantee that on their end and state that it is the speed you'll get. When it's mostly not true. Power users usually look at +/- and understand the losses during up time and downtime. However an average Joe wouldn't.

That is why. If an ISP is stating 250mbps. Then you should be getting somewhere near that.

 

 

"If you bought a new car and the manufacturer promised that it would get 60MPG, that means under normal driving conditions, or keeping it on the smooth flat roads....in network. Now when you take that car across country, out of network, up and down mountains, back country roads, and mud holes...poorly maintained infrastructure, remote locations, bad servers...you let less MPG, or in our case Mbps. Are you gonna blame the car manufacturer for the lowered MPG when you took the car into strange locations?"

 

Yes, a poorly designed frame, body weight placement, bhp to whp performance ratio, and shock absorbent on struts and shocks for a vehicle can cause heavy MPG downfall. Which is the manufacture's issue, especially if advertised only on "optimal situations".

Especially if I buy a SUV that can barely handle highway roads and pot holes, when it is advertised as an OFFROAD in their commercial and marketing. Yes. I would heavily blame the manufacture. If the issue is big enough it can be a class action suite as well lol

 

Isn't it fun when I know a little about the interwebs and cars? Your point you're making is valid in principle.

btw, you have a shitty boss. My boss blames the traffic :P

 

If we are taking about the internet and highways. Let's really come back up from the dumb-down version for end users.

We relate it to the highway to give newbs and low-end users an understanding of what the internet works with or like. That's a lot of empty land mass if you look at a map.

Your internet highway had multiple exits, routes and connection that is a two way lane and your car can travel either direction without a loss of speed or slow down. Congestion doesn't happen on the road, it happens on the terminating node or server, so pretty much a ball of yarn is what the internet looks like as "highway" surrounding the globe. X amount routes and nodes it can connect and move to.

This is why you get packet loss (one of many reasons) when you are hitting a bad node/server. right? riiiight.

 

However, if your ISP in North America says "You will get 300mbps download speed" and the users are testing at "230mbps" from Mother Russia, then that's not bad. Because 150mbps isn't hard hit for power users, unless you are expecting exactly 300mbps consistently ... which I would consider silly because that won't ever be true, speed fluctuate.

but for users who have ISP telling them "You will get 25mbps download speed" and they are getting "0.01mbps or 10kbps" as a test from same server in Mother Russia then the issue would be more so the ISP then "situational highways"

 

The Infrastructure that is lagging is normally the ISP and the agreement of other ISP by the said ISP, it is business and throttling. Nothing more.

 

Like I said, the point you're making is very much valid in principle... but you forget what TMN here is for.

 

Ookla for example, shows you ideal results. TMN at least shows you how crappy the roads are.

Your message fully felt like the hate on the the glory of TMN.

So what false information are you referring to? the ones you are trying to portray? because that's what it sounded like to me, a one sided view. So I wanted to add mine.

My issue is other Speed Test sites, some have partnered up with ISPs (they get a kick back). I don't think TMN is saying your ISP suck; TMN shows what it pulls.

Just. Data.

Now, you wanna hate your ISP, your dog or your neighbour for sleeping with your wife, it isn't TMN's issue. What you do with the data logs is up to you. It's a tool to help YOU.

 

A tool. That's it.

 

FYI, I am adding to the friendly debate, with humor along the way. I could be horribly wrong. Who knows. :P

 

 

Also. WHAT IS WITH THAT GIANT FLOWER?! 

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