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[windblown]

Hi,

I have posted here before, but over a year ago. Since then I have been on Virgin Media 200Mb and 400Mb trial. That was totally cool with awesome speed. I am now back on my regular 50Mb/5mb connection with Virgin Media. Very soon I am upgrading to 100Mb/10Mb with VM.

Here I am using a local UK server for my speed test.. Testmy.net is too distant to get reliable results from Birmingham, England. Have testmy.net got a UK server yet?

http://www.speedtest.net

[CA3LE]

Not yet. Although I do hope to have a server on every continent in the near future. I believe with my formula that I could accurately test the entire planet with 6 or 7 well placed servers (although, I believe in the future as the internet improves, only one server will be necessary). But the way that I do things setup isn't cheap, so I have to bring them online slowly.

When I do something, I try to do it right the first time. I have allot of research to do about UK internet and how your internet backbones run before I can pick a perfect location for my server there. If you have any information that you'd like to share about good, powerful and hopefully affordable hosts over there I'd love to hear it.

- CA3LE

[windblown]

Thanks for the information.

I will check around and ask a few folk about good powerful servers over here.

[windblown]

CA3LE,

Hi!!

OK. I have put a few questions in on UK forums. Watch this space.

Meanwhile it might be worth your while checking out a company called NAMESCO which itself runs a server for speedtests of 100Mbps+. I have noticed that they do come to arrangements with more than one company over here, including speedtest.net.

[CA3LE]

Thanks.

I'm going to need a server with a 1000Mbps link by the way.

[Roco]

a UK member getting 50 mbps, dang you must be Wain Rooney or R . Branson

it sure beats the ass out of the UK average of 4 Mbps on copper ,but sigh , fibre isn't an option for everybody the UK ,
or affordable , both counts for me,

.

[windblown]

a UK member getting 50 mbps, dang you must be Wain Rooney or R . Branson

it sure beats the ass out of the UK average of 4 Mbps on copper ,but sigh , fibre isn't an option for everybody the UK ,
or affordable , both counts for me,

.

lol@Rooney and Branson. My connection with VM currently costs me just under £30 monthly taking into account bundle discounts etc. (VM do cable TV, landine and mobile too) 100Bb/10Mb would cost £38 approx. Fibre to the Cabinet is rolling out across the UK with Britisish Telecom and VM. VM have plans to run fibre out to rural areas using the telegraph pole network, as is done in S. Korea. You are right about copper over here, but hopefully this will become less important over time.


CA3LE

You might find this link to a UK forum thread useful for your server hunt. You will need to register to contribute and extract more from the expertise to be found there. Cableforum

[TriRan]

CA3LE are you looking for a company that rents out dedicated servers, or are you looking for a place you could colo a server of your own?

because a quick search has brought up a few places that offer 1000Mbps links but i just wanted a little clarification before i look further

edit:
so far i've found a couple of options, lol unmetered 1Gbit isn't cheap let me tell you lol

http://www.eukhost.com/ is offering umetered 1Gbps at £2999/month

http://www.seedboxsales.co.uk is offering unmetered 1Gbps at £165/month and they even have 10Gbps starting at £800/month
not really sure how their network is or what datacenter they are in lol bandwidth seems more expensive in the UK than here at least from what i've seen

http://www.webhosting.uk.com/ is only £4000/month for their unmetered 1Gbps oh yeah thats just for the uplink not inlcuding the server hosting costs lol

[TriRan]

oh yeah and telehouse london is offering colo 1Gbps link for £1500/month not sure what they charge for the rack space etc though

http://www.swiftway.co.uk/ wants £1000/month for their unmetered 1Gbps

[windblown]

Speed test result for today. Considering the distance from the UK this is a good result.

[windblown]

I have tried tests using the Euro server. Unfortunately the results are so varied they are not much use to me. I have a 100Mb connection with Virgin Media. The max I get here is 32Mb with many tests much lower than that.



Using speedtest.net based in London using the Namesco server I consistently get 97Mb+

http://www.speedtest.net


How do others do on the Euro server?

[CA3LE]

How do others do on the Euro server?

I'm curious to know too. Remember, to route to Amsterdam you're going to be routed through more providers. So the test here will be a better test of your providers peering.

(testing at speedtest.net on the Amsterdam server)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1627916984.png
That test only took like half a second so they're obviously not testing with enough data to be accurate over there.

... the server is more than capable of testing your connection. Symmetric gigabit. I know that you weren't questioning that but I wanted to make sure that was understood. Also, the test system mirrors what I have running in the United States.

You've got some bottleneck in there. I'm curious to see other members scores on that server.

On that Virgin Media connection, how often do you see close to 100Mbps in the real world? What about 60Mbps?

[windblown]

I invariably get 97Mb+ any time of day. Over the next few months VM are going to increase the maximum download stream to 110Mb to allow for overheads. At the moment is at 103Mb, hence the actual speed of 97Mb. This is to fit in with UK regulations requiring that users can get what the connection is advertised at.

You are no doubt right about the bottle neck. These are results from a variety of NL locations.

http://www.speedtest.net
http://www.speedtest.net
http://www.speedtest.net


If you can let me know the address of the NL server I will do a tracert and post it here. Here's a better result from your server today.

[TriRan]

You can tracert eu.testmy.net

[windblown]

Well here are the results of a tracert and ping. To my untrained eye this doesn't look too bad. I don't see any obvious bottle necks.

C:\Users\Vince>tracert eu.testmy.net

Tracing route to eu.testmy.net [159.253.141.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms REDDWARF [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms 10.14.112.1
3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms brhm-core-1a-ae2-939.network.virginmedia.net [21
3.106.229.149]
4 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1a-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.103.97]
5 16 ms 13 ms 13 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.185.85]
6 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms nrth-tmr-2-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.159.34]
7 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms tele-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
184.2]
8 18 ms 15 ms 31 ms ldn-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.70.29]
9 * 20 ms 19 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.21]
10 15 ms * 38 ms ldn-b3-link.telia.net [213.155.133.5]
11 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms xe-1-0-1.bbr01.tg01.lon01.networklayer.com [213.
248.97.226]
12 32 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae7.bbr02.tg01.lon01.networklayer.com [50.97.18.
207]
13 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms ae0.bbr02.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com [50.97.18.
211]
14 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms ae6.dar02.sr01.ams01.networklayer.com [50.97.18.
251]
15 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms po2.fcr01.sr01.ams01.networklayer.com [159.253.1
58.133]
16 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 159.253.141.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com [15
9.253.141.114]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Vince> ping eu.testmy.net

Pinging eu.testmy.net [159.253.141.114] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 159.253.141.114: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=50
Reply from 159.253.141.114: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=50
Reply from 159.253.141.114: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=50
Reply from 159.253.141.114: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 159.253.141.114:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 26ms

Here are some speed test done within a minute or two.


http://www.speedtest.net

http://www.speedtest.net

As you can see the NAMESCO server in London gives me my usual 97Mb. Rotterdam gives me something lower owing to distance I guess, but testmy.net has not done well.

[TriRan]

What web browser are you using?? are you sure your rwin and mtu are correctly set?

[windblown]

I use Firefox. MTU is at 1500. I have used TCPoptimizer. Bandwidth set to 100Mb+ and with optimal settings.

[TriRan]

I have issues getting past 30mbps on firefox aswell on this site but on any flash based site I get 60 down so I use chrome and it works fine

[windblown]

Here is my speedtest.net result for Rotterdam using Google Chrome.

http://www.speedtest.net

Here is testmy.net result.

[TriRan]

you won't notice a difference on the flash based sites but you will on the non flash based ones