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[mudmanc4]

Might sound crazy, and it might be . None the less , obama is the USA's last president.

Soon after obama's reelection in 2012 , within his last two years of second term, or maybe well before this, possibly somewhere between June 2012 and late october 2012, the world changes drastically in the form of security as attacks from jihadist rage in the largest cities forcing a military presence as a means of controlling riots, many will flee the cities including those who are instigating violence and spread the need for force. America's military is recalled worldwide, after a decade of urban warfare training and simple security preparations.

Dirty bombs , or explosives with nuclear content , are set off in underground area's in several large cities.

All US embassies are abandoned worldwide, this causes radicals to feel a sense of accomplishment , radical dictators that have threatened and promised to take the USA back to the stone age are also given a new sense of meaning to there jihad against the west and it's allies.

Israel is attacked by surrounding countries ( as it has been so many times in history ) , forcing US / coalition armed forces to retaliate, spreading the military might of the west thin enough for embedded enemies of the US to attack from within. ( just as predicted 2 thousand years ago )

Three long range missiles holding nuclear devices are launched from somewhere in the Pacific , aimed and detonated 20-50 miles over the mid to central USA ,causing an EMP ( electro magnetic pulse ) effect on the three major power lines that converge in the region. Toasting the power grid nationwide , as well as frying nearly every computer chip powered at the time, and most that are not, in the entire USA.

Communication goes down , all public utilities are now rendered useless, no power to pump gas into cars that will not be running , no power to refrigerate food storage, natural gas lines are down as well. Food riots , senseless killing , bands of people roam and pillage what they can. Police are protecting there own families Vs. roaming the streets looking for cause. People are on there own to survive.

Obama declares marshall law. No elections take place (2012 ) or 2016 ?

FEMA and US military combine as one entity to control the masses of people on the streets, arresting those who offend and those near them, taking them to the now already hundreds of FEMA prisons sporadically located nationwide. Those radical 60's -70's people who called for the overthrow of the US government are now calling the shots ( in fact in reality they are as close to calling the shots now ).

Re education camps are set up for those deemed dangerous to the new social structure, those who refuse to cooperate are killed , those who will bend and bow to these new leaders are sent to storage for further scrutiny .

Cities all around the US are now under military control , food rations , water and clothing are sparse and as well rationed, healthcare is only administered to a select group. Curfews are in place ,anyone caught in a zone not legal are shot on site.

Tens of thousands fill the rural landscape of America in search for shelter and basic human needs.

Factions form, small at first , many smaller groups combine to amass a growing community of " rebels " , " freedom fighters " , or what will they be called. Insurgence ? Gorillas ? Remember , everything the US has stood for , is now according to some in power , wrong , false , illegitimate ect.

The constitution of the USA is more then just under attack in political effect , it is now deemed nothing more then an old piece of paper that some old men had idea's and wrote them down, so it is null, this is survival of the fittest.

Democracy at this point is nothing more then the hierarchy of who gets to eat first, and who you must obey in order to stay in the clan.

World leaders gather in secluded luxury to discuss the direction they will take to organize and eliminate 80% of people on the planet Earth.

Welcome to the beginning of the new world order. Welcome to the reset, welcome to the vision of fundamental environmentalists , welcome to the dreams of those who cry out for democracy , welcome to the vision of leaders such as Ahmadinejad you now have the roots of your future world vision, welcome to what fundamental Christians call armageddon , or others call the time of tribulation.

Are you prepared ?

[CA3LE]

I hope not.

[tdawnaz]

i just wanna say thx and shake the hand of all those dumb asses that voted him in...while i kick them where it counts

[Biggles]

Obama rules the world , I think not ,Bush thought he did ,

who gives a F**k on political leaders , are we so blind we can't see further .?
they lost that prerogative when the internet was born ,
looking back I now see , " the world today "
I got to admit I hated the Dylan nasal whine back in the 70's 's

but as a sort of musician ( with no commercial talent lol ),

I now see this track as prophetic ,


what do you what from a prime minister (UK ) or president (USA )
one man can't change things into you favour, maybe your god can ?

I suggest you keep praying , maybe it works , but the proof ain't there ;
just my thoughts, and open to any Crit .etc
and I don't mind a flame or 2

[mudmanc4]

Missed the point as far as a galaxy away roco.

I do not believe obama will rule the world , in fact if you were to try and read my post again , you'll find quite the contrary.

I come to these conclusions from what history I know , and what has transpired sinceBush #1 election. When i really started paying attention. As well as my first presidential year voting.

Putting everything together that at least I am aware of , all leads up to this happening soon , but I'm positive it is inevitable.

I do pray, I'm close to my family's thoughts and feelings as well. Trying to keep everything in perspective isnt hard anymore. Knowing that so much of what the world fights over is not real, but a carefully planned scheme , a movie or a show whichever you decide. I enjoy when someone tells me there's no proof of something , and yet hold close to them something that cannot be proven the same .

Of course I know there are much larger "secrets " if you will , that I cannot put together , that have for some reason been withheld . For centuries upon centuries.

[tommie gorman]

Sounds like another HG Wells classic to me.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=P9T9f3UbGuo

[mudmanc4]

I'll take that as a compliment tommie

[CA3LE]

I got to admit I hated the Dylan nasal whine back in the 70's 's

but as a sort of musician ( with no commercial talent lol ),

I now see this track as prophetic ,

Bob Dylan sucks, you guys who were teenagers at the time... come on, really? Admit it... you were super high. Nobody listens to Bob Dylan unless their deaf or too high to get up and change the station. Just terrible.

Funny, South Park just made fun of him on their last episode.

[Biggles]

Bob Dylan sucks, you guys who were teenagers at the time... come on, really? Admit it... you were super high. Nobody listens to Bob Dylan unless their deaf or too high to get up and change the station. Just terrible.

Funny, South Park just made fun of him on their last episode.

Super high ? , I can't speak for the others , but nothing illegal has ever entered my body ,
Nah I wasn't a Dylan fan , more the Beach boys type , spent many happy days dreaming the surfers dream ,
while sitting on the beach in the Pi**ing rain waiting for a breaker over 6 inches ,I grew up disillusioned ,

my prediction , things might get worse , they might get better , but most likely, things will stay the same as they are ,
or it might be the end of the world ........again .

there is nothing to fear , only fear it's self ,

BTW , what's Southpark ? , is it on that thing called Tele Vicious , I might get one ....oneday ,when I am too feeble
to make my own entertainment , bit like the Mobile Phone , which was anything but Mobile , my company one isn't
it's been residing on the bottom of the local lake for the past 8 years , RIP , I certainly have since ,

[CA3LE]

Super high ? , I can't speak for the others , but nothing illegal has ever entered my body ,

Who said anything about illegal substances. Plenty of legal things get people high, some even say that music gets them high. By high I mean, not in your normal frame of mind. Because when I hear Bob Dylan I think, "wow, nobody in their right mind would think this was good." -- that south park video is literally what I hear when I listen to Bob Dylan.

Do you seriously not know what South Park is? Or were you being sarcastic? lol

[tdawnaz]

ca3le...he seriously probably doesn't know...he doesn't own a tv at all

[mudmanc4]

OMFG ,

The term " illegal " is a joke , governments deem specific things illegal , but hold the law specific to when where who and what is the act directed towards.

As an example I'll claim you most certainly have put something illegal in your body , many times, as a brit I'm certain you have at the least tried it , you should know that items such as vegemite , marmite or cenovis , amongst a few most popular ones have been illegal in certain countries , such as the US. See the dilemma of the word " illegal " ?

No there is nothing to fear, true fear , is false , what we call fear , is actually your body's warning sign , letting you know there is possibly something that could harm you , ( chemical /biological/electrical reaction to looking into the future causing physical reactions from more chemicals released into the bloodstream ) , so it is not " scary " , it's misinterpreted due to indoctrination of the unknown. = warning sign = pay attention, or don't and suffer the consequences , if any. lol

[tommie gorman]

I never watched an episode of south park either, does not strike me as entertainment.

[Biggles]

As an example I'll claim you most certainly have put something illegal in your body , many times, as a brit I'm certain you have at the least tried it , you should know that items such as vegemite , marmite or cenovis , amongst a few most popular ones have been illegal in certain countries , such as the US. See the dilemma of the word " illegal " ?

I have always assumed what is legaly for sale in my local supermarket,would not be breaking any UK law ,

so Veggiemite is ileagal in the USA
so is pork in Isreal ,alcahol in Muslim states
there is no "dilema in the word ileagal , only in where you reside ,
indeed Goverments set the standard ,
with medical opion taken , it may not be a perfect system but it protects those that can't think for themselfe,

Thanks Tdawnaz , no I don't own a TV , Just had the licence enforcers around again ( every 2 Years )
Pleasent enough guys , and the search gets less each time they visit , they get my standard hospitality , ( cup of tea and a sandwich ,) but they always decline,
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High on Music , thats my normal state ,
in the past I have been addicted to
cigeretts , whisky and wild wild women , so far with Tdawnaz's help I have given up the cigeretts,
the other 2 remaing I am thinking about ,maybe next year ,

Predictions ? , I could write a page or 2 , but I predict folk will find it boring,

basicly the world is in ressesion the rich will make more money , the poor will get poorer, there will be social unrest , the countries leaders will get the blame, the real danger is a new leader will arise ,
who promises everything to everyone , ( Germany 1930 on ), then fear will become a reality,

[tommie gorman]

So true, in poverty the richget richer. And in unrest there is anarchy. All we need is a decent pres that wants to do a good job ................. instead of be popular and PC. I still say a good isolationist for 5 years would do it. Sam Walton knew how to cure an economy (no not his ignorant kids in charge now). Buy american is always best, and there is enough competition to still get good prices in volume at a discount. But all his kids couid see was wringing an extra nickel out of the buffalo a*s but. (how many are old enough to know what that last statement means? )
For those that don't know Sam Walton was the founder of Walmart.

He launched a determined effort to market American-made products. Included in the effort was a willingness to find American manufacturers who could supply merchandise for the entire Wal-Mart chain at a price low enough to meet the foreign competition.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Sam_Walton

Now that is what America needs. Not anther idiotic politician. An american with heart and pride. And I just don't see one on the horizon this time. I still think McCain/Palin was close though.

Edit: To straighten up the type after the puter here messed it up. Weird lately. (CABLE?) It looked more like some kind of code replaced part of it.

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[mudmanc4]

You must have edited your post tommie, CKEditor is fubared , and always has been filled with a trillion bugs. IPS is ( from what I gather ) going to fix a few of the key agitating bugs in the 3.2.3 release soon.

Biggles , you more of less made my point in your last paragraph , without all the possible gory details that come with a dictatorship. I just see this happening all over again , just world wide this time.

[Biggles]

Muddy I fear you have an over active imagination , I truly believe we learnt something last time around ,
as sad as 9/11 was , it did make folk in the UK cry ,and we haven't forgot ,never will ,
London had 90 days of 9/11's back in 41, will still won't accept a Dictatorship ,and I can't see Americans doing likewise ,
although I fear money is leading the world that way ,

My thoughts on America , (just mine alone ) and believe it or not I have every respect for the country and it's folk
old Europe needed the new world , most thinking Brits believe it was good we lost the battle of Independence , ( me included ,)
BTW.,this is a great hot thinking topic, it would make a good book ,or film ,IMHO ,


My Prediction

In a few years the government will be overthrown, America will descend into civil war ?

I don’t see that happening, follow the course of that if it did, the Government collapses , the money stops flowing , folk start taking the law into there own hands ,
No food, no gas, the sick die in the street , the rich will be long gone to safer places ,
New York becomes Judge Dread town,

If it did happen , who steps in , maybe the military , but then they aren’t getting paid ,
But if they did you would end up under a Military junta like some 3^rd world country ,
Human rights would be rapidly leaving by the back door ,

If the USA military didn’t intervene , I figure Europe would via Nato ,
If only to safeguard Americas deterrent weapons ,

It would be an odd sight to see the blue helmets in the states , French, Belgium, German ,
and Russian etc troops on American soil ,

It wouldn’t be the Islamic fanatical , there Navy only has 2 rowing boats , and America is
Thousands of miles away ,

I am kinda warming to this theme , where would the rich flee too , I guess Switzerland If they took the gold , otherwise Australia ,
it wouldn’t be Britain , because we would have introduced Visa’s for Americans , just to get our own back,
( LOL , I needed a visa to visit the states , I can visit the whole of Europe and Russia
With just my C.I. passport ,
What would I do , wait for the total collapse and buy California for me and my family , I might even buy out Ca3le ,
only kidding I got enough grey hair ,

It ain’t going to happen ,
Just my view
and to add I am, not a Brit , although I have lived in Britain most of my life ,
I am a C.I ./ Jersey the canton , the folk that founded NEW Jersey ,

[mudmanc4]

So biggles ( Jersey guy hey ? Well doesn't that explain a lot , J/k ) we might essentially be thinking the same thing.

People are seeing the upset of balance ( if there ever was a balance ) in the world. So many people are now seeing ( with the advent of social networking ) that there is a fundamental disorder to the hierarchy of power in the world. As money has taken over Vs. creativity and working together as a whole to better the human race.

Political jargon is rapid , people are forced to believe , live , and respond / react to what they hear , believing it to be true simply because they hear it so much. This is nothing more then a trick of media. An outlet for those that cannot get attention by doing good , so they need others to create false power for them.

Just as other " bubbles " have been created in the past , for specific purposes, some have seen the possibility of exploiting surges such as the dot com mess, housing mess, gold mess, strictly to uplift the specified for various reasons , generally monetary, to bring it down , just as a water well pump . Only when this is done , your bleeding finances as well as human drive to make something more of ones self. All of this is comparable to leading cattle into the slaughter house. Over time and generations , people become accustomed , the general consensus changes to adapt, as humans do so well.

Combined with religious fanatics , human rights , labor relations , natural need to survive , celestial theology , history, political thunder from the slight conversation to the implanted lies that spew from the newly created animal of social engineered mass manipulation.

Tear them down , force them to beg for help , then rush in and behold , the savior. ( or so thought ) History repeats itself time and again, as I said , I believe it's close to the apex again , only this time , it will not be contained by razor wire in a cold dormitory , but controlled by the people themselves , and the false prophetic power they give to themselves in the fact so many have literally lost the ability to think on there own.

[tommie gorman]

Well if your gonna buy up Mexifornia, mind letting me rent a few miles of coastal land? I need a good place to work on my tan and chase a few gals on in private.

[mudmanc4]

Sure , when I speculated on the possible future of the US and the world , many people simply cannot see any of it a possibility , because they live in a bubble , none the less , the article below should be taken as of course a grain of salt , right ? After the serious reaction she had recieved , the recanted and claimed she was " just joking " . Imagine that.

As a way to solve the national debt crisis, North Carolina Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue recommends suspending elections for the next couple of years.“I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, for Congress for two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover,” Perdue said at a rotary club event in Cary, N.C., according to the Raleigh News & Observer. “I really hope that someone can agree with me on that.”Perdue said she thinks that temporarily halting elections would allow members of Congress to focus on the economy. “You have to have more ability from Congress, I think, to work together and to get over the partisan bickering and focus on fixing things,” Perdue said.North Carolina Republicans immediately scoffed at Perdue’s proposal, pointing out to her that elections hold politicians accountable for their actions.“Now is a time when politicians need to be held accountable more than ever,” North Carolina spokesman Rob Lockwood said in an email to The Daily Caller. “To suspend an election would be removing the surest mechanism that citizens have to hold politicians accountable: the right to vote.”

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