Imagine that , a "power outage " kills 50% of the entire DB including backups on a raid 10 setup ?
I have to say that sounds strange as hell .
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:55 PM
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:41 PM
Imagine that , a "power outage " kills 50% of the entire DB including backups on a raid 10 setup ?
I have to say that sounds strange as hell .
it does sound very strange! but hey computers don't always make sense right?
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:57 AM
huh?? what's this about?? i haven't heard anything til now
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:09 AM
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:11 AM
Imagine that , a "power outage " kills 50% of the entire DB including backups on a raid 10 setup ?
I have to say that sounds strange as hell .
Its really not that strange. It happens.
Remember raid is not a backup. This is why you do daily backups of the database and all site data. At any moment this can happen.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:55 AM
When the power came back on, was that the problem. Was their system set to Auto-on when the Power came back? If so, wouldnt that be a bad idea, instead of a manual start-up of the systems. just wondering, Iam no tech.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:16 AM
Sure things happen , always. At the same token , all the backups are toast as well ? So I am to assume that a site as large as they , have no off site backup , ready to go. As stated on there site , even the database backups are corrupt.
Makes no sense, and I'm talking about the entirety of the situation. They should have been back up within one day , even with a complete torch of the physical host machine.
What I'm saying is if there was a catastrophic ( severe and violent destructive ) power issue , how the hell did it make it's way to the individual servers. Any decent host has a very long line of protective physical devices inline to prevent this. Again ,makes no sense to be less than devious or malicious in some way. Just sayin my thoughts.
Makes no sense, and I'm talking about the entirety of the situation. They should have been back up within one day , even with a complete torch of the physical host machine.
What I'm saying is if there was a catastrophic ( severe and violent destructive ) power issue , how the hell did it make it's way to the individual servers. Any decent host has a very long line of protective physical devices inline to prevent this. Again ,makes no sense to be less than devious or malicious in some way. Just sayin my thoughts.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:30 AM
WHos Liable for the loss of info, revenue, downtime, etc.? Sounds like a Lawsuit in the works against the network/data/service provider.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:26 AM
Sounds to me like a backup isn't an issue. When power's restored, so will everything on that server. That's lame that happened to them but I'm sure that they lost nothing. Even if it were more catastrophic I'm sure that they have multiple back up plans.
I personally have server imaging, local backups and network backups that my servers do automatically... and I also pull my own manual backups of key areas every day... then those backups are stored on two computers at my home, both of which have Time Machine enabled.
They're probably either being told that power will be restored quickly... or they're in the process of setting up another temporary server (that's what I would do if the host said it would take longer than an hour). --- Doesn't their host have backup generators? ...but maybe the redundancy was knocked out as well. I wish them luck, I'm sure they'll be back up soon.
Trust me, when you sign up for server... you release them from liability in your contract. Unless the provider has been contractually obligated you can't sue for that.
I personally have server imaging, local backups and network backups that my servers do automatically... and I also pull my own manual backups of key areas every day... then those backups are stored on two computers at my home, both of which have Time Machine enabled.
They're probably either being told that power will be restored quickly... or they're in the process of setting up another temporary server (that's what I would do if the host said it would take longer than an hour). --- Doesn't their host have backup generators? ...but maybe the redundancy was knocked out as well. I wish them luck, I'm sure they'll be back up soon.
WHos Liable for the loss of info, revenue, downtime, etc.? Sounds like a Lawsuit in the works against the network/data/service provider.
Trust me, when you sign up for server... you release them from liability in your contract. Unless the provider has been contractually obligated you can't sue for that.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:45 PM
He's doing a good job of updating everything in the distress https://docs.google....review?sle=true
I particularly hope I do not have to at any time deal with the gentleman that assumed the disks were hot pluggable , and yanked them with the power on ( I'm assuming by the text , there not ) Then again , I have the luxury of assumption.
I particularly hope I do not have to at any time deal with the gentleman that assumed the disks were hot pluggable , and yanked them with the power on ( I'm assuming by the text , there not ) Then again , I have the luxury of assumption.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:00 PM
Ouch that sounds like such an expensive oops
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:05 AM
I think in there public update , last I read there estimates were between 12 and 18 thousand for data recovery if needed. Have not read it today yet.Ouch that sounds like such an expensive oops
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:42 PM
Im glad the site is back up!!!!!
I surely did mi$$ it!
I surely did mi$$ it!
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:53 AM
Yes looks as if there on the road to recovery doesn't it.Im glad the site is back up!!!!!
I surely did mi$$ it!
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:34 PM
They just went down again.? 8:25 Pm--est..?...5-19-2012.
Musta been a Glich..back up now..?
Musta been a Glich..back up now..?
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:32 PM
I dont see how a site that large, and a host that professional can be ravished by a "power outage" like this that caused $28k in damages... somethings fishy there..
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 01:45 AM
Thats what I was screaming !I dont see how a site that large, and a host that professional can be ravished by a "power outage" like this that caused $28k in damages... somethings fishy there..
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