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G-20 Refuses To Back Us Push On China's Currency

12 November 2010 - 09:31 AM

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SEOUL, South Korea – Leaders of 20 major economies on Friday refused to back a U.S. push to make China boost its currency's value, keeping alive a dispute that raises fears of a global trade war amid criticism that cheap Chinese exports are costing American jobs.

A joint statement issued by the leaders including President Barack Obama and China's Hu Jintao tried to recreate the unity that was evident when the Group of 20 rich and developing nations held its first summit two years ago during the global financial meltdown.

But deep divisions, especially over the U.S.-China currency dispute, left G-20 officials negotiating all night to draft a watered-down statement for the leaders to endorse.

"Instead of hitting home runs sometimes we're gonna hit singles. But they're really important singles," Obama told a news conference after the summit.

Other leaders also tried to portray the summit as a success, pointing to their pledges to fight protectionism and develop guidelines next year that will measure the imbalances between trade surplus and trade deficit countries.

The G-20's failure to adopt the U.S. stand has underlined Washington's reduced influence on the international stage, especially on economic matters. In another setback, Obama also failed to conclude a free trade agreement this week with South Korea.

The biggest disappointment for the United States was the pledge by the leaders to refrain from "competitive devaluation" of currencies. Such a statement is of little consequence since countries usually only devalue their currencies — making it less worth against the dollar — in extreme situations like a severe financial crisis.

The statement decided against using a slightly different wording favored by the U.S. — "competitive undervaluation," which would have shown the G-20 taking a stronger stance on China's currency policy.

The crux of the dispute is Washington's allegations that Beijing is artificially keeping its currency, the yuan, weak to gain a trade advantage.

U.S. business lobbies say that a cheaper yuan costs American jobs because production moves to China to take advantage of low labor costs and undervalued currency.

A stronger yuan would shrink the U.S. trade deficit with China, which is on track this year to match its 2008 record of $268 billion, and encourage Chinese companies to sell more to their own consumers rather than rely so much on the U.S. and others to buy low-priced Chinese goods.

But the U.S. position has been undermined by its own central bank's decision to print $600 billion to boost a sluggish economy, which is weakening the dollar.

Also, developing countries like Thailand and Indonesia fear that much of the "hot" money will flood their markets, where returns are higher. Such emerging markets could be left vulnerable to a crash if investors later decide to pull out and move their money elsewhere.

Obama said China's currency policy is an "irritant" not just for the United States but for many of its other trading partners. The G-20 countries — ranging from industrialized nations such as U.S. and Germany to developing ones like China, Brazil and India — account for 85 percent of the world's economic activity.

"China spends enormous amounts of money intervening in the market to keep it undervalued so what we have said is it is important for China in a gradual fashion to transition to a market based system," Obama said.

The dispute is threatening to resurrect destructive protectionist policies like those that worsened the Great Depression in the 1930s. The biggest fear is that trade barriers will send the global economy back into recession.

The possibility of a currency war "absolutely" remains, said Brazilian Finance Minister Guido Mantega.

Friday's statement is also unlikely to resolve the most vexing problem facing the G-20 members: how to fix a global economy that's long been marked by huge U.S. trade deficits with exporters like China, Germany and Japan.

Americans consume far more in foreign goods and services from these countries than they sell abroad.

The G-20 leaders said they will try to reduce the gaps between nations running large trade surpluses and those running deficits.

The "persistently large imbalances" in current accounts — a broad measure of a nation's trade and investment with the rest of the world — would be measured by what they called "indicative guidelines" to be determined later.

The leaders called for the guidelines to be developed by the G-20, along with help from the International Monetary Fund and other global organizations, and for finance ministers and central bank governors to meet in the first half of next year to discuss progress.

Analysts were not convinced.

"Leaders are putting the best face on matters by suggesting that it is the process that matters rather than results," said Stephen Lewis, chief economist for London-based Monument Securities.

"The only concrete agreement seems to be that they should go on measuring the size of the problem rather than doing something about it."

http://news.yahoo.co...conomic_summits

Ok thats all well and good. But Obama pay attention to what you just said. They are controlling jobs. So what is so hard about that to figure out.

Ok so you ask so what was the simple solution again? Simple take all american money transactions (minimum wage, prices, money in the bank and such) and cut it in half. Impossible? Probably. And don't forget to drop the Obama care in the process. But instead of inflation cause it to simply reverse for once. Take a look at what minimum wage has done recently. When it rose sharply so did inflation. Increases have got to stop. No more raises for inflation, no more minimum wage increases. Thats part of the big problem too. Its not necessary really. All it did was drive prices up. Hell I worked a few of those minimum jobs, thats the bottom, then you get your self educated and move up. Not get a raise  for nothing. And price freezes. Let the world inflate itself just like China did. I been saying this for years. Why is it it took a 3rd world country to figure that out? Kudo's to them really. But Obama would rather blame them for being smart.  :uglystupid2:

Price freezes etc ... across the board anyone? At least it would be a free and positive move forward. (I know ............ too damned simple) And of course the rich would not like that. It would make them visible. Hard to hide crimes behind something that is constant.  :smiley6600:

http://www.laborlawc...nimum-wage.aspx

New Member Again?

31 May 2010 - 07:11 PM

You mean the first time was not enough?   :twisted:

I was posting along and all of a sudden I get a page asks me if I want to join the forum. So I signed back in all ok. Just weird it signed me out like that. Or was it a sign instead. And yes it happ[ened a few others, but did not make note of it really. Just this time.  :rolleyes:


I wonder if shug had something to do with that?  :buck2:

New Forum Format Prob's

19 March 2010 - 04:13 PM

Still having trouble surfing the new format. Where the heck is the section for topics I have replied to for now would be a big help.  :rolleyes:

Error....

28 December 2009 - 09:22 PM

I have been getting this error a lot lately. Just saying I guess in case its important.  :grin2:

Happy BD pixiepistlz

10 December 2009 - 02:46 PM

Someone has a big day today. Hoping you have many more.

Happy birthday pistol packing pixiepistlz.  :bday: http://www.testmy.ne...tyle_emoticons/default/occasion13.gif Heres the boys to do a dance for you.