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    Paul Tester reacted to CA3LE in What does NFW mean?   
     
    No problem, glad to help.  Thank you too.
     
     
    I sell advertising but try to not over do it.  Huge segments of TMN's traffic never even see an ad.
     
    ISPs and other entities have offered to pay for analytics, many times.  Instead of just giving them what they want I'm building TMN to do it for me.  Instead of sharing the information with only those who pay for it TMN aims to share all of its collected information with everyone, for free.   (within the privacy policy guidelines of course) -- with help from those requests the information presented here will become more and more detailed in future versions.
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    Paul Tester reacted to mudmanc4 in Automatic tests not repeating?   
    Fool around and get to know the settings in the auto test.
    There are many different variables you can use. Find the most frequent settings, and leave the tab in the browser open. Post back and let us know how things went.
     
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    Paul Tester reacted to mudmanc4 in Do I need to keep browser open?   
    Hi Sheila,
     Yes exactly. Many people simply reduce the window or open a new tab, or new browser window while the auto test is running.
     
    Once you close the window, or tab the test is running in , the test will be terminated.
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    Paul Tester reacted to Sheila McColm in Do I need to keep browser open?   
    Hello - I am new to this site so this question has probably been asked (many times) before.  Do I need to keep my browser open to get the automatic testing, or can I close the Tab / Browser?
     
    Many thanks!
     
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    Paul Tester reacted to VinceEdwards in http://speedtest.xfinity.com/   
    Whoops! I posted the wrong link above. My speedtest.net result.
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    Paul Tester reacted to VinceEdwards in http://speedtest.xfinity.com/   
    Take a look at this discussion here  Home Networking
     
    The difference between speed test and another is pretty profound. It works like this (not very technical and skips over a tonne of technical aspects, but it demonstrates the issue at hand).

    If you imagine 2 users, call them Bob and Mike.

    There is 100Mbps split between the two of them at the local exchange, node or street box.

    Bob downloads a file (1 threaded), he gets 100Mbps.
    Now Mike runs a speedtest, single threaded. Bobs download slows to 50Mbps, Mikes speedtest gets 50Mbps (sharing available backhaul).

    Say Mike runs a speedtest with 9 threads, Bobs 1 threaded download falls to 10Mbps, Mikes speedtest shows 90Mbps.

    With multi threaded speedtests, congestion is hidden a lot more.

    Hence ISPs send you to www.speedtest.net as it's multi threaded and very good at covering up congestion issues.
     
    Your ISP will try to use the multi-thread test as the standard against which they test any claim that you are not getting the download you pay for. 
     
    Congestion in your local network could easily affect the outcome of your single-thread test depending on the architecture of your network. If you are lucky you will have a single coax or a twisted pair copper line  all to yourself. straight from your local street box. This would give you no local congestion, but the same issues as anybody else when negotiating the wider network, much of which has nothing to do with your ISP.  If you are a cable user, more likely you are sharing a coax with other users giving you local congestion on top of everything else. 
     
    To test your speed you might also use a really fast file download site,  e.g Visual studio  Try two or three files at the same time then  add the download speed of them all to get the maximum.  ( Windows show speeds using MB rather than Mb. Just multiply the MB result by 8 to give Mb. )
     
    When fighting this out with your ISP they always have the get out that the download speed they quote to you when you buy in to their contract is an 'up to' speed. e.g. 'Up to 200Mb'. If you look at their small print they will cite congested times of day as possible causes of slow test results. They can also suggest that your home kit might be causing problems.
     
    The good thing is that unless you are experiencing poor service  e.g. problems with browsing, streaming, game play or downloading and up loading large files then you probably have nothing to complain about. Speed tests are not a good indicator of the service you are getting, but your daily experience as a user is.
     
    Only yesterday I was having trouble streaming from my own cloud (Livedrive) . I rang my ISP (Virgin Media - UK) and explained that even though my speed test gave me my usual >300Mb download speed and 20Mb up speed, my videos experiencing showing slow buffering. They tested my connect right down to my modem and found that power levels were too low on some of my channels. They adjusted this and put it right.
     
    My speedtest.net result
     
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    Paul Tester reacted to mudmanc4 in Speed test providers variations   
    @Parado I can appreciate your frustrations, as I am sure so many of the rest of us can as well. Until we get a grasp as to how the ISP we are using is actually treating our connection, compared to what we expect, especially when it becomes difficult to brows, as many of us have had that issue.
     
    Summer months for myself can be taxing, and I'm not always as available here as I'd like to be. It seems many people ignore working machines, which act as 'dust filters' , collecting anything which the fans run through. Once the heat of the season hits, electronics explain the importance of regular cleanings when the system thermal settings are hit.
     
    Just left a small companies datacenter where no filtration system was utilized other than what went through the rest of the office, three racks of servers 3/4 filled was a daunting cleaning task. I would have pics but the HR gal was adamant about not letting it out. I literally filled three office waste bags from the shop vac out of the servers themselves, and a good bit more from under and around the racks. The duct had not been cleaned in a millennia, took me 10 minutes just to pull the packed filter out.
     
     
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    Paul Tester reacted to CA3LE in Speed test providers variations   
    Parado, sorry for not responding quicker.  Ask regulars to the forum, I'm normally much faster at responding.  I've had family visiting and now I'm out visiting family.  Besides the few awesome, dedicated bad asses in the forum I'm the only one here.  When I finally take a few minutes off each year, some questions may not get answered the way this forum intends to help people.  I apologize because I saw and read your question as soon as it came in... I just wasn't able to respond.  Couple that with my daily email regimen and it doesn't take long before your post/message/email gets piled on top of.  It usually weighs on my mind and I do eventually get to many of the messages I may miss while I'm away but it can be extremely difficult (impossible) to get it perfect.
     
    After looking at your results and reading your thread I don't see a problem.  If TestMy.net is saying 8.1 Mbps... you're getting that speed.  It's better than your supposed to get, right?  TestMy.net is known by many to be the hardest speed test to get a favorable score on, this is by design.  Tests (of any kind) shouldn't be easy if you're trying to gain useful information on a subject.  Usually we hear it the other way around, "TestMy.net speed is much lower than the other speed test I use..." -- if iPrimus shows a lower speed on their test it could be due to the route to the server.  Even though it's within your ISP doesn't mean that there isn't an issue with that server, the route to that server or the test itself.
     
    I just did the iPrimus, Telstra and TestMy.net speed tests all against Sydney AU.  (not my normal connection but it still proves my point)
     
    Telstra was funny, even though for a large portion of the test my computer was reading only 8 Mbps... then down to far less (trailed off HUGE from the middle to the end), the test itself never indicated any of that happened.  It just ignored the bad parts of the result, as ookla speed tests are well known to do.  If we were graded like that in school, everyone would have doctorates and would learn nothing.

     
    iPrimus -- looks exactly the same as Telstra's test, they're both ookla tests.  They both have similar designs and server selection.  But iPrimus scored far below the Telstra speed test result.
     

     
    TestMy.net is exactly as I would expect.  Shows everything that I saw on the reading coming off my computer while it was happening.  Sorry it doesn't make people feel as good or want to share their scores as much... but it's the truth.  I'm here to help you with the truth, sometimes it hurts.  In those instances, if you listen, it will help.  According to the true test, the connection I'm on doesn't fair as well to Australia as the other guys would want me to believe.


     
    Even a multithread speed test on TestMy.net (targeting only Sydney, AU) can only achieve 25 Mbps on this connection.

     
    That's all she's got!
     
    Funny thing is, after the initial tests I ran both of those tests (iPrimus and Telstra) at the exact same time... and they returned impossible results.  Somehow I showed more bandwidth on the Telstra test while the other test was running.  Think about this -- I drew more bandwidth, away from the test... yet the test was able to display significantly more bandwidth than I was supposedly capable of in the original test result.  


     
    What?!  A combined 44 Mbps against Australia on a US connection that has a hard time pulling 25 Mbps out of Dallas.  Uh, no.  Do the same on TestMy.net and you'll see that the speed is split between the two results... aggregate the scores and you'll arrive at the same speed you'd expect to see off a single test.  This is what any tech would expect to see in that situation, because TMN is a real test and has no vested interest in your score being one way or the other. 
     
    Here's a Dallas result just now on this connection.


    Sure, I hit 40 Mbps... briefly.  Would you call that 40 Mbps or anywhere close?  Other tests algorithms may make it appear that way... their motto - keep the best, ignore the rest.
     
    So, that iPrimus test also performed far lower on my end.  Not a reliable resource.  My main point however is that you really should stop wasting your time with all the BS speed tests out there.  You've finally found the real one.
     
    Happy Testing!
     
     
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