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Ok i know you might scream but I think that the Athlon 64 FX-51 might not be the chip that I would use for the pimputer. After surfing Extemetech.com for a little while I found this artical. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1426496,00.asp Athlon 64 3400+. Not only are they running the 3400+, 3200+, FX-51, and the intel 3.2 extreme from what i can tell, but they are also running the Asus mobo that seems to be the mobo of the pimputer, 2x256 ddr pc3200 kingston memory chips and 2x 36 gig westen digital raptors on raid 0. 8) Now the graphic card isnt the 9800xt but who cares.

After looking at the results and the price. This may amaze you... The 3400+ is the fastest by a large margin. :shock: Lets put it this way. The 3400+ kept up with or beat the fx-51 and the 3.2 intel. Even in GAMING!!! :twisted: Take a look and be the judge... I think the right chip for the pimputer is the 3400+. :D

By the way the FX-51 is $733.00 and the 3400+ is only $429.00 the 3.2extreme is $985.00

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Swimmer 8)

AHHHH lol

That's funny you posted that, because I was reading up on the Athlon 64 3400+ last night and was going to ask you about it today :) Yeah it beat the intel 3.2 extreme in every game test, some of them it really kicked the intels ass :twisted: And it looks like it responds alot better to OCing than the FX-51. Because I know I'm going to want to play around with that in the future 8)

This is going to sound funny but how can I tell if the memory I'm looking at is Dual Channel or single :oops:

Mort 8)

Can't wait to see what you come up with for a PiMPuter :D

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Umm... you know what that is a really good question. I believe that if the ram is DDR is capable of being dual channel with any manufacturer. You just have to buy the same size and speed!! Then that would effectivly create Dual Channel. Mort am i correct on this???

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Swimmer 8)

That is SWEEEET :!:

Can you put some links in so we all can imagine what this PiMPuter would look like :twisted: I don't know what you do or what your going to do for a living, but I know what you should do :D You sure you got that $$ right :twisted: DAMN :twisted:

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MiniPimps,

was unable to help with problem or PM you if anything changes I will let you know.Also had problem signing in....this new stuff looks looks better than two naked virgins~~~~~well almost...hehe!Whats the price of admission and when do you start on the compimpster.

8) microwave

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Yeah... I have 2 foot warmers the graphic card and the ps. 550 watts of power!!!!!!! yeah baby yeah!! :lol: The graphics card i have no idea what the point of the 2 fans are. The processor is running stock so my guess is that Asus knew everyone and their brother was going to overclock the thing and included a massive cooling solution. I havent heard anything bad about it yet either. Everyone was complaining about the fx5900s when they took up a pci slot and the agp slot. I hope it doesnt sound like a weedwacker!!! :lol: I will not be building this any time soon.. No $$ right now. :cry:

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Yeah... I have 2 foot warmers the graphic card and the ps. 550 watts of power!!!!!!! yeah baby yeah!! lol The graphics card i have no idea what the point of the 2 fans are. The processor is running stock so my guess is that Asus knew everyone and their brother was going to overclock the thing and included a massive cooling solution. I havent heard anything bad about it yet either. Everyone was complaining about the fx5900s when they took up a pci slot and the agp slot. I hope it doesnt sound like a weedwacker!!! lol I will not be building this any time soon.. No $$ right now. cry

Ithink your right it may have been fo OC, but I think I read somewhere also for redundancy, either way its a good thing right.

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Where are you seeing that?? O on my system. I dont think that will effect the proformance. The FX chip has a 128bit memory controller and the 3400+ is only a 64bit controller. The only difference that i can tell is that the highest memory bandwidth achieved by the fx chip is two time that of the 3400+. My guess is that the memory is clocked in a way to provide more responce and shorter access times for the increased memory bandwidth. Good question!!! I will look further into this some time today!

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The optimizations are probably just tighter standard ram timings, which you can do by yourself in the bios. (Commin up with pimpest comp yet, hang on). And yes, that's the way dual channel works. 2 EXACT Same sticks of ram from same manufacturer with the same timings and same clock speeds are needed. I was doing some research and found that you can't do dual channel with 3 sticks, Having 2x as much ram in one channel than the other just doesn't work very well. Only thing I can see to do with that mobo is change the northbridge Heatsink; mass heat from high fsb's and if you OC it, it may be wisest to put on a Zalhman.

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Mort 8)

Maybe i could just go with two sticks of 512 run them dual and leave the third slot empty, would that work :?: I don't think there is going to be a heatsink cause everything is going to be liquid cooled, but i could be wrong :?:

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