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Despites what Linux users may say, there is not a good alternative to windows.  We have no choice but to buy, or we get left behind.  And in case you hadn't noticed, when MS sees no one buying anymore, they just cut off support and rush out the next version.  MS knows what they are doing, that's why he's the richest man on the planet.  But it doesn't make it ok, just good business.  Good business doesn't mean good company or person. And I'm not the reason you pay more.  You are.  Bill knows you will buy it despite what I do, so he doesn't care.  Do you really think the price of software would go down if piracy didn't exist?  No, it would go up, because then you REALLY have no choice.  We live in an MS world and you're an MS girl.  Bill would be the MS pimp that slaps you crosseyed and says "Where's my money?!"  I'm the guy that stays out of the alley and downloads free porn at home.  lol

Where are are you coming from? At least as far as a good alternative to MS. Have you tried  say,  Suse ? man dude, this has come a long way , big time.For the stability alone, not counting the "billion" lines of code that freely evolves from good people literally everyday. Good god! Where have you been?

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Linux is a good alternative to Windows, especially for server, firewall environments, etc.  Really the only thing you can't do on Linux is play the popular games.  Not that I use the Linux GUI anyway...

Oh, and you can't forget the price difference.

Actually, I wouldn't use for Windows for a server or firewall at all.  I'm not just using Linux as an alternative.  I dare say Windows is the alternative in that case.

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Linux is a good alternative to Windows, especially for server, firewall environments, etc.  Really the only thing you can't do on Linux is play the popular games.  Not that I use the Linux GUI anyway...

Oh, and you can't forget the price difference.

Actually, I wouldn't use for Windows for a server or firewall at all.  I'm not just using Linux as an alternative.  I dare say Windows is the alternative in that case.

Lookie there , intelligence.PhP. I hear you on that ( gaming), But not for long!My only problem W/ MS is ther influx of more or less ,Spycode. Damn, talk about of a multi-trilliion dollar cache.

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Despites what Linux users may say, there is not a good alternative to windows.  We have no choice but to buy, or we get left behind.

Well, that's your opinion. Some people like Linux, some like Windows and other like other OS's. there are dozens of OS's out there. We have many choices.

And in case you hadn't noticed, when MS sees no one buying anymore, they just cut off support and rush out the next version.  MS knows what they are doing, that's why he's the richest man on the planet.  But it doesn't make it ok, just good business.

Not exactly. M$ forces us to upgrade by ceasing and "sunsetting" support for their products.

Yes, I agree that it is good buisness. Just like many other companies, they are in it for the money. So, as long as we keep giving into them by buying their products, they do "own" 90% of the computer OS market, they will keep charging whatever they want.

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I did mistype a bit eh?  When I said about the prices I was speaking of when it first hit the market. Its cool. Everyone has there own oppinion I respect that. Everyone seems to bring up a valid point.  Guess what it boils down to who you are in the real world. Yes it is stealing. Its just that simple. Guess alot of people are tired of gates bending over the computer user so that in ther mind justifys useing his stuff and thumbing there nose at Him. Some just enjoy "sticking to the man" Lets face it with computers gates "is the man"

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Like someothers have said. If windows was not a good product, someone else would be making a product that was cheaper, to replace. It just stands to reason. It must make sense. Or $'s.

Okay, I have to jump in on this one.  Success has little to do with the best product.  I know you didn't say it was the best.  It mostly has to do with timing and marketing.  Windows IS NOT nor was it EVER the best product.  I remember when MS was giving Windows 3.0 away for free.  Yes I'm that old.  At that same time there was a MUCH better alternative on the market from IBM called OS2.  You old guys in here probably remember that.  OS2 is still, IMHO, a better OS then XP.  Back then IBM was selling their OS for around $80, but because Windows was free they ended up losing that battle.  As a result MS went on to dominate the OS market which in turn allowed them to dominate the PC market all together.  If IBM had given their OS away for free, then we'd be having this discussion about the next generation of IBM's OS.  Now that they do dominate the PC market they can charge whatever they want and we have to suck it up.

Having said that, I think that Windows is probably the best OS on the market for the average user.  There really aren't many realistic alternatives, unless of course you go the Mac route.  I have to say that with the introduction of the Intel processor to Apple I'm seriously considering buying a Mac for my next computer, since now you can really run Windows and OSX on the same platform with no hiccups.

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            nagware!!

. . .protect your PC with anti-scan bombs!

Quote: "The best way to protect consumers is, first, to educate them about the issue, then to equip them to spot counterfeit software, and finally, to help them understand what they should do about it," said Cori Hartje, director Microsoft's Genuine Software Initiative.

"The best way to protect consumers is to get them to find pirates for us by the simple installation of a cheap nag tool," what Cori Hartje, director of Microsoft's Genuine Software Initiative meant to say.

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. . .this approach isn't meant to deter 'real' pirates, . . .but it is amusing how many months MS puts into stuff like this, and how many minutes it takes someone to break it wide open again.

The real shame is  ~  Microsoft cannot totally stop piracy of its products.

If that were possible and implimented it would be the greatest boon to alternative developers the world has ever seen.

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Question is there a way to remove this software?

Affected users who find these messages irritating can actually disable them by right-clicking the notifier icon in the notification area and selecting Change Notifications Settings. These settings will maintain until the next Windows Update only, however. Furthermore, it will not be possible to uninstall the notification tool once it is installed.

Click Get Genuine Draft now to get more information and resolve this issue.

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Then if someone wants the market, use the same strategy back. Stands to reason. Make a better product and reduce the $ outlay to get it on the market. I am sure the others could figure this out. You did.  ;)

Well when it comes to OS's we're way too far down the PC path for anyone to simply take over the market by offering up a better OS for free.  Take Linux for example, you can get a free distribution of it and it's a great OS, but you don't see them hacking away a huge portion of MS's market share.  The marketing/timing thing I was referring to only works when an industry is in it's infancy, e.g,, PC's and the OS and VCR's and Betamax, etc. 

MS's stranglehold on that market will most likely continue unabated for the foreseeable future.  Even after they come out with the next OS that needs to be updated every week to keep you from falling victim to hackers.

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Everything is a matter of time. It would still work, just take a little more time. If Gates can do it so can they. It was not a new market when he started. Just seems that way now.  ;)

Well....ah yeah, it pretty much was a new market when he started.......that's how he got started.  He bought DOS for $50,000 from some dunder head and then sold it to IBM as the base OS for their new "PC".  Then he stole Windows from Steve Jobs and built his own version.  This was the first version of a windows based PC OS.  So, yes it was a new market.

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There are free operating sistems out there its called linux and in my opinion linux its better for the average guy

I have a whole box of Linux Ubuntu discs I ordered for free so I could pass them out to people. Well I had Linux installed but I don't know how to install programs that's my problem. I don't know how to use sudo! If I knew how to install programs then I would use it, if you have a help thing for that then hook me up. Ok now here is my situation for XP. As of right now my PC in my room is using the product key as the one downstairs, yes I know it's illegal. I am ordering a new XP Pro key and disc for my PC to make it legal. But I still do not want to even have that software on my PC because to me that's invading my privacy! I don't want them knowing what I download, none of their business. Or do they only monitor to see if your Windows is legal?

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Question is there a way to remove this software?

I am sure that someone will come up with a way to bypass it.. or it will be so weakly implemented on MS side that it isnt really going to matter..

As far as linux goes.. great OS for those who are willing to cold switch..  I still have yet to do it on my primary machine but I am running a server and the good old smoothwall based on red hat 8 i believe it is.. 

There is also the free OpenOffice suite which is gaining popularity.. due to the pricing on the Office suite..

As for pricing... Ladies and gentlemen.. It is called supply and demand.  Guess what MS owns about 90% of the consumer OS market.  So until someone else can break in.. it is going to say high.  Even a little threat can go a long way.. look at IE and firefox.  IE is getting better and finally getting the security it need for about 2 generations.  I think it would be great if MS would create a general license that you could buy.. Something that would be valid for Office, XP, Vista, and all their other consumer level programs.  I dont really have a problem paying for my stuff.. As long as I get what I paid for.  I reformatted my machine the past weekend and had to reinstall office 2003 pro..  I guess they thought that it was time to meet me and I had to call in to get the activation code..  Pain in the butt.. 20 min on hold to get a freaking number.. 

The other thing to look into is partnerships.  I know here i can get a copy of  XP of about $15 and office for $10..  Many corprate companies have a similar agreement.  Check with your IT people to see if you can get your software through your work.

well, you complain about the price and say you're on a budget. ok. so how do you put together a box that is equivalent to any of the 4 or 500 dollar offers from dell/gateway/whatever for less than that? and when you start adding in the software licenses... (usually an xp home and a works with word) there is no way you save money by going homebuilt.

That is the whole point.. MS wants you to buy from manufactures! Which is why they now have deal on hardware and software from everyone on the earth.  Back in the late 90's and early 2000's it was easy to get a computer with licenses for less than dell..

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