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A friend of mine sent me a link with a mobo from newegg  right here and asked me to find a case, psu, and cpu for cheap. mainly mild gaming (cs, day of defeat and maybe guild wars...nothing fancy) and stuff like video editing and then email, and internet. but wanting almost the same specs i did (my thread about the xps was where he got the idea...) but amd and compatable with the mobo he picked...so here is what i picked...tell me what you think...keep in mind this is basically budget stuff....but for mild gaming.  :smile2:

ps. also need help finding a good power supply for him.

parts so far are this. 

CASE

MOBO

CPU

this good so far? thanks in advance.

also, what would be a good way to cut down heat...or is the included in the cpu and case good enough?

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Alright that would work... I am not all that impressed by the CPU... I would rather see either an X2 or a move to the Intel platform...  For some reason Newegg has no boxed 939 X2s... kinda odd but then I guess the 939 is dead.. :cry:

So here is what I would go with..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128321

This would get him the chance to run SLI if he ever wanted to and onto a platform that will have some room for some upgrades down the line.  Also it gets him the dual core processor for the video editing and gaming...

For processor:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103733

As for the case looks decent.. will work fine for this type of application..  For the power supply I would be looking at 400-500 watts.  Anything that is less that $40 pass on..  There is on reason that you should hook up your computer that is worth over $1000 to a power supply that is less than $40.  The quality is better and your system will be able to perform better on a better power supply.

For cooling AMD is know for their cool processors.  That is one of the main points this day in age since Conroe came out..  The are no longer the kings of the CPU so they are pushing Intel with who can make the coolest/least power consuming processor on the market.  If you wanted to you could get some 80mm fans to go inside of the case..  I would hold off and see what the temperatures look like during the break in test.

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Anything that is less that $40 pass on..  There is on reason that you should hook up your computer that is worth over $1000 to a power supply that is less than $40.  The quality is better and your system will be able to perform better on a better power supply.

Swimmer, when you said this...the only power supply i can find that is more than $40 is this one here    but one that is less than 40 and 24 pin (compatible with the mobo picked) is this one so would that 500 watt work...because i dont want to have to spend that much for the other one...

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122010

is that a good graphics card...i mean i know it would play FEAR on medium..but for the comp. (as i said only mild gaming...) is that a good enough card, without having to upgrade in a year or so? or would it be best to get something like this  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143071

thanks,

starship

edit/..  ok this is what i have down. tell me what you think.

Case  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144151

Motherboard  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128321

CPU  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103622

Power supply  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817174023

Hard Drive  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148020

Graphics card  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814143071

Ram  - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146599

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motherboard and cpu are not going to work... if you want that motherboard then you need to get a CPU based on the AM2 socket.  otherwise you are going to have to get a 939 socket motherboard.

thanks for catching that swimmer...how about this instead  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103633
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Do not get that hard drive! That thing is 3 generations old (Seagate is selling the 7200.10 series now) and is IDE. The MB you're getting supports SATA - get a SATA hard drive! IDE is dead and is being phased out. Here is a page full of hard drives:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Category=15&N=2010150014+1035915133+4026&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=14

I have always had very good luck with Hitachi and Western Digital drives (I, personally, would stay away from the Samsung's). Also, WD's RMA policy is much better than Seagate (no cost advance replacements at WD; costs $25 to do this at Seagate), if your drive should happen to die. I know this, because I just had to return a drive from each maker.

Anyways, whatever you choose, make sure it is, at least: SATA 3Gb (also known as SATA 300), 8MB cache, 7200 RPM.

Hey, what about your optical drive? I recommend one of these:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106015

I have had very good luck with Lite-On drives - I have owned about a dozen of them, or so, with no problems...

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gwhall007, you have to be one of the only people I've seen talk about Western Digital in a positive light in a long time.

WD drives have some of the absolute worst reliability out there unless you get their Raptor series, which are overrated anyway for what little performance gains they offer...

Hitachi and Seagate are the only two I will trust with my data any more after my 200GB Maxtor died literally 3 days after its crappy 1 year warranty.

I have a 40GB IBM DeathStar in this computer... its like 7 years old... and its still chugging along even with all the operating systems and gut-renching PPF creations I've put it through. My Hitachi is one of the best drives I've ever had. And I just added a new Seagate 300GB IDE to the computer last night and it even out-performs my Hitachi. But I'd never trust a WD or Maxtor drive, even if they were the last drives on earth.

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I guess everyone has different experiences. I wouldn't touch a Seagate or Maxtor drive, after all of the problems I have had, and seen, with them ( I repair computers on the side and have seen many dead Seagate and Maxtor drives, not too many Hitachi or WD). I had several Maxtor drives die after less than 1 year of use, before learning my lesson with those.

Oh, etherealremnant, I'm sorry to say it but you are completely, and utterly, wrong about the performance of the Raptor drives. Have you ever owned one? I'm not talking about looking at some stupid benchmarks that some stupid site did, but actually using one day to day? I would guess you haven't, based on your statement. I have owned every model Raptor ever made (I'm running the 150GB model now) and used them in RAID arrays and stand-alone. They are MUCH faster than a comparable 7200 RPM drive in real world use. MUCH faster.  :grin2:

I have personally owned about 40 different hard drives and worked on about another 100, or so, computers for clients and I am just sharing my experiences of comparing many different hard drives, across many different platforms. In my experience, the WD and Hitachi drives are the best. Others may have different experiences....

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I have seen just about everything from every manufacture...  I have had Seagates arrive dead from newegg, I have had the awesome experience with the Deskstar 75GXPs...  The IBM drive that failed all of the time aka Deathstar..  I have had 3 WD drives fail in under a year most recent was a 250gb ( I had a destroy this drive post for a while with a 160gb version).. A few Maxtors mostly older ones ~80gb models..

However, I have yet to have a hitachi fail...  Which kinda surprises me see as they bought out IBM's Disk business in 2003ish?

That being said, I think, it is up to personal preference...  Every hard drive will fail no matter what.  I think in a 24/7 operation the average life span of a hard drive is about 18-24 months.  So a consumer could easily see 3-5+ years of dependable usage.

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I guess everyone has different experiences. I wouldn't touch a Seagate or Maxtor drive, after all of the problems I have had, and seen, with them ( I repair computers on the side and have seen many dead Seagate and Maxtor drives, not too many Hitachi or WD). I had several Maxtor drives die after less than 1 year of use, before learning my lesson with those.

Oh, etherealremnant, I'm sorry to say it but you are completely, and utterly, wrong about the performance of the Raptor drives. Have you ever owned one? I'm not talking about looking at some stupid benchmarks that some stupid site did, but actually using one day to day? I would guess you haven't, based on your statement. I have owned every model Raptor ever made (I'm running the 150GB model now) and used them in RAID arrays and stand-alone. They are MUCH faster than a comparable 7200 RPM drive in real world use. MUCH faster.  :grin2:

I have personally owned about 40 different hard drives and worked on about another 100, or so, computers for clients and I am just sharing my experiences of comparing many different hard drives, across many different platforms. In my experience, the WD and Hitachi drives are the best. Others may have different experiences....

Yes, I've used Raptor drives. They're blazing fast. I just don't think they're worth the additional cost for most users. To really get the most out of them, you have to put them in a RAID configuration, which just drives the cost up higher and higher.

That said, the Hitachi 7K250 was found to be almost as fast as the old Raptor drives. I don't know about the new ones but the Hitachi was the fastest 7200 RPM drive in existence and its the one that I currently have in my computer. I can say comparing it to a Raptor, its definitely pretty close.

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Yeah, that Hitachi was/is a pretty good, fast drive. I own one. I know it's as fast, or even faster than the first gen, 36GB Raptors. However, I've got it in one of my computers as a data drive, along with a 74GB Raptor which runs Windows and Apps. The 74GB version of the Raptor is definitely faster than the 7K250 in that machine (A64 X2 4400+, 2GB mem, NF4 SLI MB). I set up all of my personal boxes this way - with a Raptor for the OS and Apps and a big, fast drive (or many of them, see my sig) for data. Shoot, in the rig in my sig, I'm also using another 74GB Raptor just for my swap drive. Talk about quick disk access!

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Personally, I prefer Western Digital and Seagate. Although I don't own a Seagate at the moment, I have heard many people complement them on how good they are, although they can be somewhat expensive. I have three drives in my computer, all from WD. One 74 gig raptor SATA for windows, one 120 gig IDE for data, and one 250 gig SATA for data. Personally, I have only had one WD fail on me in my entire life, that being one that was about 5 or 6 years old. In my opinion, WD is the best. However, I will never again in my lifetime buy a Maxtor. They make some of the worst hard drives in existance. Cheap pieces of S#!t, I had two of those things fail on me in two different computers. I have never used a Hitachi so I can't really comment on them. WD FTW!!  :cool:

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