Capn Crunch Posted March 3, 2004 CID Share Posted March 3, 2004 Anyone have a solution for a 4 computer LAN with a 3mb/s cable line whose bandwidth is being completely taken up by File Sharing Programs? I'd like to be able to play an online game once and a while but when I have over a second of ping, I'd be crazy to try since all it would do for me would be to make me more angry with my roommate bandwidth hogs, who aren't even here 1/100th of the time that they're taking up the bandwidth. So, any help you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Crunch Posted March 3, 2004 Author CID Share Posted March 3, 2004 Anyone have a solution for a 4 computer LAN with a 3mb/s cable line whose bandwidth is being completely taken up by File Sharing Programs? I'd like to be able to play an online game once and a while but when I have over a second of ping, I'd be crazy to try since all it would do for me would be to make me more angry with my roommate bandwidth hogs, who aren't even here 1/100th of the time that they're taking up the bandwidth. So, any help you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 3, 2004 CID Share Posted March 3, 2004 I am guessing that you are all paying for the cable line? If you are the person who pays for the line you can place bandwidth restrictions on their ip addresses. However, I have a 4 computer setup running on a 3 mb cable line and have no problems. I know that all of my computers are not download 650mb movies from Kazaa but the speed stays pretty high up. You might also download new drivers for you network card. Also check you setting you might be only running at 10baset instead of 100baset which would explain the slow down. Let us know and more info would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 3, 2004 CID Share Posted March 3, 2004 I am guessing that you are all paying for the cable line? If you are the person who pays for the line you can place bandwidth restrictions on their ip addresses. However, I have a 4 computer setup running on a 3 mb cable line and have no problems. I know that all of my computers are not download 650mb movies from Kazaa but the speed stays pretty high up. You might also download new drivers for you network card. Also check you setting you might be only running at 10baset instead of 100baset which would explain the slow down. Let us know and more info would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorne Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Also if your roomates are using Kazaa to download with their comps are full of spyware which will be eating up a lot of extra bandwidth. Kazaa comes bundled with spyware and won't work with out it. Get them to use WIN MX if possible it doesn't come with spyware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorne Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Also if your roomates are using Kazaa to download with their comps are full of spyware which will be eating up a lot of extra bandwidth. Kazaa comes bundled with spyware and won't work with out it. Get them to use WIN MX if possible it doesn't come with spyware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Lorne brings up a good point... Some simple house cleaning could solve your problems. Try removing spyware, updating your drivers, and power cycling you modem. You may find that this take care of your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Lorne brings up a good point... Some simple house cleaning could solve your problems. Try removing spyware, updating your drivers, and power cycling you modem. You may find that this take care of your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Tell them to get Kazaa lite K++ ~~~ no spyware. But if they were my roomates I would just beat their asses for screwing up my ping ... why do they even leave it running... why not just download the songs they want and exit... if I was you and if I was the one paying for it, I would tell them to AT LEAST disable uploading to others, that is most likely what is creating a bottleneck on your connection. If worse comes to worse... I would unplug their shit from the router while I was online... HOMEY DON'T PLAY DAT! ~~~ damn slackers! - Damon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Tell them to get Kazaa lite K++ ~~~ no spyware. But if they were my roomates I would just beat their asses for screwing up my ping ... why do they even leave it running... why not just download the songs they want and exit... if I was you and if I was the one paying for it, I would tell them to AT LEAST disable uploading to others, that is most likely what is creating a bottleneck on your connection. If worse comes to worse... I would unplug their shit from the router while I was online... HOMEY DON'T PLAY DAT! ~~~ damn slackers! - Damon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Crunch Posted March 4, 2004 Author CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Okay, here's some more details on the situation: 3 computers use XP, but the problem computer is running LINUX... It's hard to get him to do any "house-cleaning", whether it has to do with his computer or the actual house. He's not the most Linux saavy person using Linux, so he doesn't update a lot. He's not using Kazaa or anything I've probably ever heard of before. I have heard that he's used BearShare and EDonkey in the past, but I don't think that's what he's using anymore. I would ask him to check whether he's running his card at 10 or 100, but he may not know how to check and he's not very receptive to questions like that anyway. He thinks it's my fault somehow, even though I've shown him the logs as proof and shown him how our bandwidth "normalizes" when he turns his file-sharing off. Our router is a 4 port Linksys and there is a 4 port switch connected to accommodate the extra person. When I look in the outgoing router logs at the times when the bandwidth is really tied up, it looks something like this: 192.168.1.101 65.49.207.147 42540 192.168.1.101 24.64.142.167 6346 192.168.1.101 81.248.222.172 6346 192.168.1.101 141.156.174.208 6346 192.168.1.101 200.232.207.198 17640 192.168.1.101 217.85.33.162 6346 192.168.1.101 217.85.47.254 6346 192.168.1.101 217.85.42.43 6346 192.168.1.101 216.68.31.98 6346 Where 101 is him, and his are the only entries in the outgoing log. About 10 new entries are added to the log every second. The IP addresses that it shows are almost never the same. In other words, every time a new one shows up, it's a different number, so I assume these are people pinging him. The inbound logs are similar, but show the IP address of the pinging party followed by the port they're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Crunch Posted March 4, 2004 Author CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 Okay, here's some more details on the situation: 3 computers use XP, but the problem computer is running LINUX... It's hard to get him to do any "house-cleaning", whether it has to do with his computer or the actual house. He's not the most Linux saavy person using Linux, so he doesn't update a lot. He's not using Kazaa or anything I've probably ever heard of before. I have heard that he's used BearShare and EDonkey in the past, but I don't think that's what he's using anymore. I would ask him to check whether he's running his card at 10 or 100, but he may not know how to check and he's not very receptive to questions like that anyway. He thinks it's my fault somehow, even though I've shown him the logs as proof and shown him how our bandwidth "normalizes" when he turns his file-sharing off. Our router is a 4 port Linksys and there is a 4 port switch connected to accommodate the extra person. When I look in the outgoing router logs at the times when the bandwidth is really tied up, it looks something like this: 192.168.1.101 65.49.207.147 42540 192.168.1.101 24.64.142.167 6346 192.168.1.101 81.248.222.172 6346 192.168.1.101 141.156.174.208 6346 192.168.1.101 200.232.207.198 17640 192.168.1.101 217.85.33.162 6346 192.168.1.101 217.85.47.254 6346 192.168.1.101 217.85.42.43 6346 192.168.1.101 216.68.31.98 6346 Where 101 is him, and his are the only entries in the outgoing log. About 10 new entries are added to the log every second. The IP addresses that it shows are almost never the same. In other words, every time a new one shows up, it's a different number, so I assume these are people pinging him. The inbound logs are similar, but show the IP address of the pinging party followed by the port they're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 That is helpful! It means that the file sharing programs are hogging you bandwidth. Those ip address are from people that are connecting to his computer and the servers that are being pinged to keep his connection live. Ask him to turn off the file sharing program when he isnt around. That should solve your problems. What he is doing is creating like 5 "clone" computers pretty much. Everytime he logs into his p2p program he makes like 5 different connections. With thoses connections he has to ping every 5-30 sec to keep his connection live. When he is downloading he is opening more connections to get fast download speed. Which requires opening more connection to different servers. Which means that the bandwidth left to you and the rest of your buddies is rather small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 That is helpful! It means that the file sharing programs are hogging you bandwidth. Those ip address are from people that are connecting to his computer and the servers that are being pinged to keep his connection live. Ask him to turn off the file sharing program when he isnt around. That should solve your problems. What he is doing is creating like 5 "clone" computers pretty much. Everytime he logs into his p2p program he makes like 5 different connections. With thoses connections he has to ping every 5-30 sec to keep his connection live. When he is downloading he is opening more connections to get fast download speed. Which requires opening more connection to different servers. Which means that the bandwidth left to you and the rest of your buddies is rather small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICROWAVE Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 I agree with ca3le guy, kick their asses hehehe.really I would probably start from the beginning,that is run only one(yours) PC first to benchmark the connection and see your avg. speed.Next I would bring the other units on line one at a time and test further until I found the bandwidth hog then I would kick their ass.You have been given some ideas that can pinpoint where the problem is,then you can fix the problem or restrict HOGS,doesn't matter what they are doing if it is using most of the BW all the time it needs to STOP.Of course I suppose you could split the connections and bring in a whole new drop as cheap as INTERNET service is now.I don't know about you but its not a problem I would want to live with.I take my surfing pretty serious so I would do something to fix the issue.Thats always been the problem with some room mates if they arn't drinkin your beer, or eating your food, or porkin your girlfriend, they are using using all the BW and messing up the porn tapes....lol!!! Microwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICROWAVE Posted March 4, 2004 CID Share Posted March 4, 2004 I agree with ca3le guy, kick their asses hehehe.really I would probably start from the beginning,that is run only one(yours) PC first to benchmark the connection and see your avg. speed.Next I would bring the other units on line one at a time and test further until I found the bandwidth hog then I would kick their ass.You have been given some ideas that can pinpoint where the problem is,then you can fix the problem or restrict HOGS,doesn't matter what they are doing if it is using most of the BW all the time it needs to STOP.Of course I suppose you could split the connections and bring in a whole new drop as cheap as INTERNET service is now.I don't know about you but its not a problem I would want to live with.I take my surfing pretty serious so I would do something to fix the issue.Thats always been the problem with some room mates if they arn't drinkin your beer, or eating your food, or porkin your girlfriend, they are using using all the BW and messing up the porn tapes....lol!!! Microwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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