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If I had 45 minutes to listen to this guy I would. Chances are, nothing he has to say would knock my socks off.

That's because you took them off and threw them on the couch.

That said, 45 minutes for just 20 ways of which we will know most is just a waste of time.

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Don't watch 20 min youtubes of someones thoughts

Since you posted on "Ways You Are Being Spied On"

There's one way to find out and I'm sure you or anybody else rarely if ever use it.

This something I just posted (everybody rushes to google :}) Getting double use out of it,

as I do see it as being on topic. I even mentioned this website.

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A question on the permissions of a program installed to a cell phone, tablet was asked

(The reason a device needs to be rooted is to allow a HOSTS file):

You know what permissions to allow a program by reading the ToS, (Terms of Service),

and I may be one of the few people that does this. The ToS will send you to their Privacy Policy

which is really what you need to read (Privacy Policy trumps the ToS).

With a Cell Phone or Tablet you have no control over your system, unless rooted which

I for one require, while I allow permissions, I also block them.

The two most important permissions to me are superuser and Full internet access.

Allowing Tracking to me it's exactly dangerous but to me very close.

Using Angry Birds (rovio.com) is an example of abusing the full internet access permission:

Angry Birds Privacy Policy: http://www.rovio.com/Privacy

says they use www.flurry.com for analytics

Flurry.com also has a privacy policy: http://www.flurry.co...acy-policy.html

That you are also agreeing to when you agree to Angry Birds:

Both parties (Angry Birds, Flurry-analytics) use web beacons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_bug to track everything you do while accessing

the network via your unrooted device.

Flurry.com knows when and who (you, your spouse, kids or which friend) checked

their email last from your Internet connection/router/WiFi. As they do collect identifiable information.

rovio.com also sends "some" collected data out of country , other countries

aren't required to supply ToS's - so you no clue what's to become of that.

X-plorer is a good example using both of my important permissions and not one word

of how they handle data or if they even collect it, or if they are going to upload a program my way.

All of the above is unacceptable to me, it's beyond tracking and into following "for personalized ads".

The Target store for one may very well know your daughter is pregnant before you.

http://science.slash...rn-your-secrets

The above is the norm for what the Cell Phone, Tablet, and such. On PC's one (I at least)

would never install something with those conditions. Games from the android stores

have some of the worst ToS I've ever read. While Angry Birds is a good example

ASTRO file manager reads the same way.

How a Privacy Policy should read https://testmy.net/legal/privacy.php

----How do I get around this?

http://www.rovio.com/ - 217.149.56.174

Add this to my HOSTS file:

127.0.0.1 217.149.56.174

127.0.0.1 rovio.com # just in case.

And I do that for every program I install.

Flurry.com -this one's different I can't block it, as seen here:

http://top.robtex.co...om.html#records

I figure that could cause a few problems :} (everyone listed is a tracker).

You can Opt-Out,

Angry Birds

youradchoices.com

networkadvertising.org

(Please note that the links above may not reach all Rovio’s advertising partners)

http://www.rovio.com/privacy

But it's not worth the hassle, some opt you back in when you clean your cookies.

But:

Flurry.com http://www.flurry.co...er-opt-out.html This one is well worth your time to Opt-Out of.

With Angry Birds web site blocked nothing is sent to them from your Xoom, even the

web beacons are blocked. All of the games or programs work 100% and your blocking

ads as well.

The damnedest thing is I trust Google, and do hope they cause no harm.

Hope this helped. -and- What the hell is a hosts file? http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

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The damnedest thing is I trust Google, and do hope they cause no harm.

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Lot's of good information Twitch, welcome to TestMy.net. :welcome:

Google's motto is "Don't be evil." ... I feel that TMN is an extension on Google. If it weren't for sites like this Google wouldn't be Google. Also, I do get a check from them every month. I believe that Google tries to Live by the Golden Rule in all that they do. The people that work for them want to first and foremost make products that help people and spread knowledge... profit is of course is part of the model but Google understands that companies that do things right, last. Companies that do things behind users backs... with information the user has entrusted..... they may make extra money today... but they won't last. Friggen Astro Filemanager! Seriously?! Guess I have to uninstall that. :-/

Rovio sold their souls to the devil... "Hey, millions of people are trusting us right now... let's sell their personal information for profit! MUu HA HA HA HA!" ... shows you that just because an app or website is big and popular, doesn't mean that they're trustworthy.

Google, you can trust... TestMy.net, you can trust. :icon_thumleft: --- I can vouch for them :razz:

... pretty awesome first post Twitch, I hope to read more.

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Google's motto is "Don't be evil." ... I feel that TMN is an extension on Google. If it weren't for sites like this Google wouldn't be Google. Also, I do get a check from them every month.

Actually it was your mentioning you did indeed work for Google that I caught Google

in a slight of hand, or not being totally honest.

Remember: Flurry.com who knows when and who (you, your spouse, kids or which friend)

checked their email last from your Internet connection/router/WiFi. As they do collect

identifiable information and use web beacons? It's part of Google.

Testmy.net visible DNS information

http://top.robtex.co...et.html#records

Flurry.com visible DNS information

http://top.robtex.co...om.html#records

The slight of hand?

Reading the ToS and Privacy Policy of Testmy.net you

end up reading the standard Google ToS.

Reading the same for Flurry.com you would never know they

were part of Google.

If you use a cell phone I would suggest you opt-out of flurry.com

but that's just me http://www.flurry.co...er-opt-out.html

Android notes:

Note: The Device ID is not the serial number of your Device.

I search for and used "Android_ID" as mentioned at the link given.

If it's right I was only the twelfth person to of download it.

https://play.google....e=search_result

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No.... We all know whats going on!!!!! (Only the sheep are unaware)

This is always an interesting point for me. I would definitely class myself as an aware sheep:

Extending that metaphor; I know how to protect myself, but my need to conform will sometimes get the better of me. I hate what Facebook represents in terms of the erosion of privacy and the selling of your E-self back to you. However I find myself unable to boycott it completely, as it IS a useful tool to network with people I find myself amongst.

Whilst im sure that my obfuscation of things that they track and refusal to location tag and like corporate pages makes me less of an effective advertising agent for them, I would be kidding myself If I thought I was not just another cog in that giant machine!

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