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TESTMY.NET versus SPEAKEASY

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Hello All:

Not sure if this should be in Dway forum but....

I am using Dway w DW6000.  Testing with testymy.net and wdc.speakeasy.net, my dl speeds are comparable (800K or so), but I get vastly different ul speeds.  Speakeasy gives me ul speeds anywhere from 20K to 600K depending on time of day.  Testmy.net gives me ul speeds always below 100K.

Any explanation?  I have a feeling that  the slower ul speeds are correct.

NAVMAN

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The difference is in the upload test sizes between the 2 sites. The results on Testmy are going to be more accurate if you choose a larger file, the larger your upload. On DirecWay, the 500 kb test is more then enough, on SE the upload tests are rather small , but most of the time, but do the trick.

Also, wdc is going to be closer to you then testmy is... testmy is in texas, wdc is obviously in washington. Closer the server, the more burst is given in the results.

edit : heres my results

wdc.speakeasy.net

2005-05-01 08:06:29 EST: 5445 / 360

Your download speed : 5576700 bps, or 5445 kbps.

A 680.7 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 369230 bps, or 360 kbps.

Testmy.net

Your connection is:  5299  Kbps      (about 5.3 Mbps)

You downloaded at: 647 kB/s

Your connection is:  377  Kbps      (about 0.4 Mbps)

You uploaded at: 46 kB/s

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.s1, I don't know if I buy that.

First, I went to LAX.speakeasy.net (in California):

2005-05-01 08:21:02 EST: 811 / 490

Your download speed : 831199 bps, or 811 kbps.

A 101.4 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 502197 bps, or 490 kbps.

Then wdc.speakeasy.net (Washington, DC):

2005-05-01 08:26:37 EST: 838 / 349

Your download speed : 858679 bps, or 838 kbps.

A 104.8 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 358102 bps, or 349 kbps.

Then testmy.net using 579K file:

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 82 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 10 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 01 2005 08:29:15 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 102.4 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 95.24 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-MO21JGZEB

BTW, I am in Northern Virginia, quite close to DC.

579K is pretty close to the 500K you say SE uses.  I wonder if the ul protocol is the same for both.  If SE uses fewer acknowledgements in their protocol, this might explain it (latency issues).

NAVMAN

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Trust me, on direcway you are not uploading at 101 kbs lol.

"Your upload speed : 502197 bps, or 490 Kbps."

So your saying your sat. is uploading faster then my cable? O_o....

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NAVMAN ..welcome to the forum... :D

And you can always go to "Mydirecway" and test.....it'll show you have a 300-400kbps upload....

Yet when you try to send a 500k picture to someone and it takes 6 mins to upload....you do the math.. :haha:

But hey.....believe any of them you wish.. :roll:

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.s1, no, I am saying that is what SE is reporting to me.

Aggr3, thanks for your welcome.  I do not "believe" SE or Dway, but I also have no cause to believe testmy.net.  I simply don't know, and asked if there was an explanation for the disparity.

My belief is that slow ul speeds have more to do with latency issues than with ul streaming limitations.  For instance, checking my email with the POP3 protocol is painfully slow, not because of ul speed per se, but because of the telnet protocol used that requires a lot of server-client back and forth replies.  I think that the successful use of VOIP also shows that Dway uploading can be fairly efficient if a streaming protocol is used.

You can be certain that it does not take 6 minutes to ul 500K of VOIP packets the same way as it takes 6 min to ul a 500K file.

NAVMAN

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The only other thing could be the way java tests report it. Im guessing the DirecWay testing is also java?

That's exactly right. The Java batch reaction will skew the results up higher by a lot on test sites that are not set up for Java. If you have a dialup backup, which most of us do with DW,

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My belief is that slow ul speeds have more to do with latency issues than with ul streaming limitations. For instance, checking my email with the POP3 protocol is painfully slow, not because of ul speed per se, but because of the telnet protocol used that requires a lot of server-client back and forth replies. I think that the successful use of VOIP also shows that Dway uploading can be fairly efficient if a streaming protocol is used.

Telnet and POP3 are two different protocols and have nothing to do with each other.

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I thought I would post the 2 from dial-up .I think you can see the difference.These are done with the firewall up.That's the way I use my PC so that's the wat I test

2005-05-01 12:25:06 EST: 35 / 67

Your download speed : 36035 bps, or 35 kbps.

A 4.3 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed is much faster than down.. have you tweaked?

Your upload speed : 68610 bps, or 67 kbps.

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 9 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 1 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 1 11:46:48 CDT 2005

Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 1024 sec

Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 9.68 % of your hosts average (nts-online.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-WVGCBZFNE

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Here's a smoking dialup connection test:

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 26 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 01 2005 10:06:49 GMT-0700

Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec

Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 35.14 % of your hosts average (popsite.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-X8BVPHYF9

:haha:

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2005-05-01 13:27:00 EST: 513 / 41

Your download speed : 525965 bps, or 513 kbps.

A 64.2 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 42319 bps, or 41 kbps.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 1000 Kbps about 1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 122 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 1 13:30:46 EDT 2005

Bottom Line:: 18X faster than 56K 1MB download in 8.39 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 26.26 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-6E40K1Z9W

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 15 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 2 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 1 13:35:35 EDT 2005

Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 512 sec

Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 35.71 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-258G6FJH3

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Believe it or not this is dialup at speakeasy on the West coast. My system does a pretty good of fooling the upload with Sun Java.

2005-05-01 16:35:56 EST: 35 / 163

Your download speed : 36692 bps, or 35 Kbps.

A 4.4 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed is much faster than down.. have you tweaked?

Your upload speed : 167364 bps, or 163 Kbps.

This is the same test site using Direcway. As you can see speakeasy is not Sun Java savvy..

2005-05-01 17:08:23 EST: 735 / 418

Your download speed : 753386 bps, or 735 kbps.

A 91.9 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 428724 bps, or 418 kbps.

And a true result on Direcway using testmy.net.. ;)

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 127 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 16 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 01 2005 13:59:28 GMT-0700

Bottom Line:: 2X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 64 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 202.38 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-PJEWVR5KD

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speak easy

Your download speed : 625178 bps, or 610 kbps.

A 76.3 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 108459 bps, or 105 kbps.

testmy.net

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 621 Kbps about 0.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 76 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 1 19:02:46 EDT 2005

Bottom Line:: 11X faster than 56K 1MB download in 13.47 sec

Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 78.41 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-VUG7ILE3H

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 16 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 2 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Sun May 1 19:04:19 EDT 2005

Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 512 sec

Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 38.1 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-PRG0E3D2M

what are we doing?  :-P

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Here are the results I recieved using DW-4000 with 89% signal strenth. First one is Speakeasy:

2005-05-23 13:40:32 EST: 1214 / 226

Your download speed : 1244123 bps, or 1214 kbps.

A 151.8 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 231682 bps, or 226 kbps

and the second is Testmy:

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 1498 Kbps about 1.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 183 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Mon May 23 2005 12:41:24 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)

Bottom Line:: 27X faster than 56K 1MB download in 5.6 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 81.8 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-N9T6FM0BI

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 52 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 6 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (main)

Test Time:: Mon May 23 2005 12:44:02 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)

Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 170.67 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 26.83 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-JM3A4RXH1

What to say about that?

This is Speakeasy after a second time:

2005-05-23 13:48:27 EST: 1140 / 21

Your download speed : 1168367 bps, or 1140 kbps.

A 142.6 KB/sec transfer rate.

Your upload speed : 22435 bps, or 21 kbps.

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!

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