Swimmer Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 Here is a good article on the new AMD notebook processor... Also there are a few benchmarks.. http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20050906/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperspace Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 That's my kind of reading...good article! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay173 Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 sounds like another amd racsist joke, bettter call jesse jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperspace Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 sounds like another amd racsist joke, bettter call jesse jackson What is wrong with the article? Let me guess...If an article does not say Intel is the best chips in the world then you don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 6, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 HAHAHA.. Yeah it is a good read.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 Intel Pentium M processor beats the others at work (and battery life while working).. That would be my main choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperspace Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 I have not done much comparing notebook CPUs... "From a battery life perspective, the Turion 64 was clearly inferior to the competition based on Intel technology. But then only when the CPU is lightly loaded, as when running a typical set of Office applications. When applications put more demand on the CPU, the difference in battery life among these systems narrows noticeably. And if the CPU and graphics components are purposely maxed out, as when gaming, the tables turn completely as our results showed, and the Intel system falls behind. In this last usage scenario the lion's share of power consumption in a notebook goes to the PCIe-attached 3D graphics chip and video RAM, and not to the CPU. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 the real problem with the amd is that the fsb is only 200MHz i generally won't suggest the use of anything with less than 800MHz in that regards even the intel is seriously lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 the real problem with the amd is that the fsb is only 200MHz i generally won't suggest the use of anything with less than 800MHz in that regards even the intel is seriously lacking Its 200 MHz cuz its for light and long-life battery laptops.. As long as it does the work, I'll go with it.. I found an AMD 64 processor notebook and it was so heavy.. I don't care how fast the cpu's fsb is as long as there is good battery life from the notebook and its lightweight.. Its not like I'll convert video files all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 6, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 the real problem with the amd is that the fsb is only 200MHz i generally won't suggest the use of anything with less than 800MHz in that regards even the intel is seriously lacking This isnt a moble desktop... if it was then you would have a p4 with the full specs.. these are portable notebooks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 6, 2005 CID Share Posted September 6, 2005 i know my notebook for example: amd 64 +3200 fsb 2000MHz clock speed 2.0 GHz ati x300 integrated w/ 128MB dedicated 512MB ram running 497MHz just because its a notebook doesn't mean u have to sacrifice power u just have to look real hard to find a good deal that comes w/ a decent proc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 i know my notebook for example: amd 64 +3200 fsb 2000MHz clock speed 2.0 GHz ati x300 integrated w/ 128MB dedicated 512MB ram running 497MHz just because its a notebook doesn't mean u have to sacrifice power u just have to look real hard to find a good deal that comes w/ a decent proc How long is the battery life on max cpu utilization or when playing video games..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 7, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 i know my notebook for example: amd 64 +3200 fsb 2000MHz clock speed 2.0 GHz ati x300 integrated w/ 128MB dedicated 512MB ram running 497MHz just because its a notebook doesn't mean u have to sacrifice power u just have to look real hard to find a good deal that comes w/ a decent proc It has nothing to do with power.. I already posted a link that showed for the most part a 1.8 pentium M is about the same as a 2.8 P4.. that is still pretty powerful! now the bus speeds are not the best but that is to conserve battery life.. And the Moble A64s still dont have a great speed step solution like the pentium Ms do.. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119366,00.asp In the demonstration' date=' the performance of a Sonoma system with a 2.13-GHz Pentium M processor, 1GB of memory, and the Alviso chip set was said to be comparable to that of a desktop system carrying a 3.6-GHz Pentium 4 processor with hyperthreading, 1GB of memory, and the Grantsdale chip set (which also supports PCI Express and DDR2). Intel had previously compared the high end of its notebook technology to the midrange of its desktop technology[/quote'] so is bus speed and process speed the end all of a laptop... NO! you can pick up a mid range pentium M and still be right on pace with some of the better P4 desktops.. http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=dothandesktop&page=14&cookie%5Ftest=1 This is a good little one.. the 755 almost beats the Desktop based a64 3500.. http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/dfi-855gme-mgf/index.x?pg=12 and another one based on the dothlon patform (the new centrino) keeping up with the fast stuff.. So it basically come down to your perference.. both platforms are fast and both and perform.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 How long is the battery life on max cpu utilization or when playing video games..? about 3 hours but i dont really need it to last anymore than that so it works just fine w/ me most of the time i am able to plug it into an outlet It has nothing to do with power.. I already posted a link that showed for the most part a 1.8 pentium M is about the same as a 2.8 P4.. that is still pretty powerful! now the bus speeds are not the best but that is to conserve battery life.. And the Moble A64s still dont have a great speed step solution like the pentium Ms do.. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,119366,00.asp so is bus speed and process speed the end all of a laptop... NO! you can pick up a mid range pentium M and still be right on pace with some of the better P4 desktops.. http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=dothandesktop&page=14&cookie%5Ftest=1 This is a good little one.. the 755 almost beats the Desktop based a64 3500.. http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/dfi-855gme-mgf/index.x?pg=12 and another one based on the dothlon patform (the new centrino) keeping up with the fast stuff.. So it basically come down to your perference.. both platforms are fast and both and perform.. if mobile procs are just as fast as desktop procs then why is it that they aren't in desktops? granted mobile procs can keep up w/ the desktops for most if not all basic apps but they aren't going to keep up with high end gaming that demands large amounts of processing power (and perferably a fast fsb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 Who's gonna play a game on a 14 inch screen instead of a desktop screen? Lets not mention the cpu comparison and the mouse thingy on the laptops, which translates into harder gameplay.. It is good for trips (no doubt better than nothing), but still.. Its mainly for work and not games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 that is only if you can afford both a lot of people can't afford both like me so ppl like me need a laptop that can handle the everything we do not just work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 7, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 about 3 hours but i dont really need it to last anymore than that so it works just fine w/ me most of the time i am able to plug it into an outlet if mobile procs are just as fast as desktop procs then why is it that they aren't in desktops? granted mobile procs can keep up w/ the desktops for most if not all basic apps but they aren't going to keep up with high end gaming that demands large amounts of processing power (and perferably a fast fsb) Because that is what people are currently trying to do.. there is a huge push for manufactures to make a board that supports the Pentium m... Aopen is the only on that currently makes a board.. and it is micro atx... One of those articles is actually about the m processor as a desktop chip.. It is all about efficiency Here is the link: http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=dothandesktop&page=1 take a look at that you will be impressed.. Now if only they would develope a chipset based for the pentium m.. then we would be taking.. or atleast update it past the 855 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 very cool but i would still like to see better fsb speeds intels fsb speeds are simply pathetic compared to amds if they did that their procs would easily outperform all others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 7, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 very cool but i would still like to see better fsb speeds intels fsb speeds are simply pathetic compared to amds if they did that their procs would easily outperform all others I would 10000000% agree.. 800mhz fsb is a little old.. AMD tops at what 2000mhz with hyper transport? I am not sure why It has taken Intel so long to up the fsb.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 sometimes even faster than 2GHz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kamil234 Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 try to build your own processor and see how far you get building a processor with new technologies takes a long time to get it all working (ex. faster fsb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 This isnt a moble desktop... if it was then you would have a p4 with the full specs.. these are portable notebooks.. whats wrong with a mobile desktop hehehe mine is a full desktop crammed in a laptop i love it but its not very portable HEHEH pentium4 3.4Ghz 1G-RAM 256MB graphics rock on !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted September 7, 2005 CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 that is only if you can afford both a lot of people can't afford both like me so ppl like me need a laptop that can handle the everything we do not just work or people like me that live in a "tent" and dont have the space so i need a laptop that will do a desktop job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 7, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 7, 2005 whats wrong with a mobile desktop hehehe mine is a full desktop crammed in a laptop i love it but its not very portable HEHEH pentium4 3.4GHz 1G-RAM 256MB graphics rock on !!!! I know.. i was commenting on the pentium m.. and how it was never designed to be a desktop processor.. but the fact that they can take some of the faster p4s out is just amazing.. considering that the lastest gen only has a 533mhz fsb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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