RTB Posted November 15, 2004 CID Share Posted November 15, 2004 http://www.techsolo.net/nl/tc-52.htm My new computer, I got my greedy little hands on the black and green version. IT'S GOT NEON LIGHT! Stuff that's in it: MSI K7N420 motherboard AMD XP2400+ (2.00 Ghz) 512 MB DDR333 ram 80 GB Seagate 7200 rpm Radeon 9600 Pro 128 MB 16x40x DVD-Rom NEC 16x DVD-Burner onboard sound and network (10/100) 300 Watt boxes (to be replaced by a 5.1 system O_o ) All that for 625 Euro. Any tips on what to upgrade next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted November 15, 2004 CID Share Posted November 15, 2004 thats.. so.. beautiful.. that cpu itself needs a pimp rating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim2006 Posted November 16, 2004 CID Share Posted November 16, 2004 I have a 2.8ghz P4 with hyper threading witch I love. Also I got my system for around $500 but US money not EURO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeePs Posted November 17, 2004 CID Share Posted November 17, 2004 HP = my brand of computer....... HP sucks = me unhappy me unhappy = i dont do well in school i dont do well in school = i dont go to college i dont go to college = i never leave the house i never leave the house = my parents go insane so the moral of the uh......... story.............. is dont get a HP computer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 17, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 17, 2004 People going insane is good in fact, so there's a flaw in your logic. jim2006: I'm a gamer, so Intel is not for me. AMD all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim2006 Posted November 17, 2004 CID Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi troll guy I am a gamer to but I looked at the AMD's FSB and it was only like 400mhz and the intel was 800mhz so I went with it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 17, 2004 CID Share Posted November 17, 2004 AMD is better as far as gaming goes. Many benchmarks are out there to prove it. HERE, it takes Intel's latest Extreme Edition chips to beat out the mid-range AMD Athlon 64 3500. The EE's actually lose to the 3500 in the UT '03 bench. It's the same story on the NEXT PAGE of benchmarks. Here's a couple benches with some later games like Halo and Far Cry: X-bit labs X-bit labs 2 Simply put, if you're building a gaming machine, AMD is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOhioRR Posted November 18, 2004 CID Share Posted November 18, 2004 Yes, AMD is better for gaming, BUT, did you know that Intel's cache speed is actually the same as the CPU itself and the AMD is half? So say you have a 3Ghz P4, you get 3ghz of cache speed but, AMD = 2.8Ghz XP CPU = 1.4 Cache Speed..... You do the math...Only reason AMD does better in gaming, is becuase of the dye in the CPU itself....the P4 takes around 1.4 Million DYE while the XP is at about 1.1 Million dye.... just a nerd's .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 18, 2004 CID Share Posted November 18, 2004 Regardless of all that jargon, I stick to the benchmarks. Numbers can be spat at me all day long, but, in the end, their actual performance is what I care about. I've seen too many benchmarks from both games and number crunching apps to know that AMD is my choice. AMD pretty much kills Intel in gaming and isn't too far behind in other apps. The big cache on the P4s was made so they had an answer to AMDs latest line of chips. They didn't actually have those in their long-term gameplans. While the huge caches do help quite a bit, AMD is still the clear winner when it comes to performance and future upgradability with the 939 socket. Just for the record, I'm not one of those hardcore AMD fans. I've actually never owned an AMD based computer in my life. It's been Intel up until now. Times are changing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 20, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 *revives thread* I think I got a problem and my guess is that it's the videocard. Installed newest DNA drivers, and went from 1x AGP (standard, what the hell?) to 4x. Twice a lock-up at 3dmark05. Installed AIDA32 to see if the temperature might be the problem, this is what I get: Motherboard 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 20, 2004 CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 If your video card came with a fan on it, check and see if it has stopped. I can't really make anymore suggestions because you didn't state the card you have, drivers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 20, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 Radeon 9600 Pro with fan still running. It's one of those small fans though, tiny compared to the others in this case (5 total... lol.) Drivers: DNA 4.12b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 20, 2004 CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 The latest set of Catalyst drivers on ATI's site are version 4.11. I'm gussing those are beta drivers? You might want to try the latest official release instead and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 20, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 Not yet, and I'm trying to keep this computer somewhat clean, so as little uninstalls as possible. One thing I remember: when installing the DNA driver I was given a choice between 'fps rates': normal, high, ultra, insane, HL2 (lol.) I chose ultra, I suppose that was overdoing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 20, 2004 CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 I'm not following. How does it let you 'set' your fps? You mean a cap for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 20, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 DNA drivers are unofficial drivers, but work better than the normal ones. Or at least they should. Reinstalling those drivers anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted November 20, 2004 CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 Well, I haven't had any experience with DNA drivers nor ATI cards. So I really have no way of testing anything. If all else fails, try the Catalyst 4.11 drivers, and see if the problem persists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 20, 2004 Author CID Share Posted November 20, 2004 I don't believe that the aux sensor is for the videocard. And 3DMark05 has been uninstalled anyway Damn, those demos are really framerate-killers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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