Well i got ad-aware and spybot ccleaner and i defrag often update often as well. i looked through the forums a bit and tried using the cable dsl 3000 256 and restarted and my bit torrent speeds went from like 32kb/s to 22kb/s roughly. As for other running programs i got the ati toolbar razer mouse drivers soundcard drivers and my virtual cd rom . Its been like this for quite a while since i downgraded but im pretty sure it shouldnt be this slow.