dcd1182

Actually yes, they guarantee lowest speeds. Before the 10mb upgrade, it was guaranteed 3.0mbit, 5 peak advertised. This of course does not mean that if someone has 1mb up, you will get 3mb down from them. This is in the contract. The speeds resulting from sandvine are far below their guaranteed minimum.

why do you beleive what 1 tech told you over what tons of others have admitted?

call my local insight office - 309-45-CABLE every single person I have talked to there has admitted they implemented sandvine approximately 1 week after the "10mb upgrade" AKA downgrade

update: woke up today 1/7/07 and my ports are no longer being blocked entirely. now it seems that with encryption and lazy bitfield i can get up to ~175kB/s down and my max up speed on a healthy torrent - this is actually significantly faster than i was getting 2 days ago, before the total blocking of ports. This speed lasts for anywhere from 20 minutes to a couple hours before it gets throttled down. I (unhappily) enabled upnp on my router, switched to utorrent and turned on upnp and random port, and i can fix the throttle (temporarily) by restarting utorrent. I've also just noticed that I'm able to receive 50-60kB/s from a few hosts outside insight's network. This is the first ive seen of that in 2 weeks - maybe its just cause its Sunday night. I'm still not happy but considering I just switched from POTS to vonage, my alternatives dont include DSL, and I'll try to live with this.. I guess gone are the days of having my downloads run while im sleeping or away from home..

marshalc, sandvine not only attempts to keep p2p traffic within the network, it also uses the "lowest cost path" for traffic that must go outside. sandvine claims this wont effect the end user while saving the isp cost - bs. i did have one torrent where a seeder was insightbb and i got decent speed from him - which still amounts to a small percentage of the speeds i used to see. outside traffic was 0-5 kB/s. i was extremely unhappy - and that was before today 1/6/07 when bad went to worse. with our ports being completely blocked, on the fly everytime we start using them now, we cannot seed to anyone, inside or outside insights network. someone more familiar with torrent protocol correct me here, but i thought the tracker keeps record of what clients are behind firewall/not connectable? sandvine already had me considering switching isps - with todays near-total blocking of p2p i guess i have no choice. its a problem for me because i just moved the house over to vonage. earlier i tried a few things - shut my cable modem off for a few minutes, change my router mac address and torrent ports, boot everything back up with new ip and new ports and the ports become blocked within seconds. this was not happenning before today although i had noticed the traffic shaping for about 2 weeks now. edit: i think i meant a capitol K there in 0-5kB/s but this thing apparently wont let me type that :/

marshalc, what port do you use? it definitely sounds like you're not being throttled, but insight has told me that sandvine is in effect for the entire network. as of today i am experiencing the port being blocked 15-20 sec after you start using it as someone else posted. talking to insight has gotten me nowhere, need to find a way to fool their filter!

signed up here to make this post where are you located? I am on insightbb in Bloomington/Normal IL. 100% OF CALLS TO MY local insight office (309-45-CABLE) have confirmed that insightbb has implemented sandvine. Little to no public information is available on sandvine, but I can (unofficially) tell you that this is a more intelligent traffic shaping device than first seen in canada and eu - my encrypted, lazy_bitfield bt traffic is being raped by insightbb. Please call my local office if yours is not confirming this as EVERYONE at my local office has confirmed that sandvine is filtering the ENTIRE network. My AIM sn is dcd1182 and anyone who has a possible workaround or questions please drop me a line...