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Hughesnet itself has improved by leaps and bounds as well. Even as I talk now I am fapped and I could never do that a year ago, so I suspect people have less to complain about as the wildblue forums everywhere are still going strong, lol. Like I said elsewhere on here, I am impressed with the new site and all the work you throw into. Thanx a million for all that hard work and the most accurate spped test on the internet for satellite.

Having Satellite broadband I have always had nothing but respect for your site every since I discovered it and I have since met many many more in various forums that feel the same way so keep up the good work and don't forget to take a break once in a while and never forget that you and this site are very much appreciated.

It got quiet in here, what happened to everyone, lol?

You probably already know and if so I am sorry but make really sure the post where the dish is mounted whether it be a roof/wall mount or a pole mount is precisly plumb because that can throw all kinds of wrenches in setting the acp.

Thanks to all for responding!

Got DSL plus an upgrade to the phone service for $10 less per month than Hughes - and that includes renting the DSL modem. We bought the Hughes modem.

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:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 2502 Kbps about 2.5 Mbps (tested with 3064 kB)

Download Speed is:: 305 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2010-04-30 19:35:19 GMT

Bottom Line:: 44X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 3.36 sec

Tested from a 3064 kB file and took 10.031 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 117 % faster than the average for host (rittct.net)

D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-FOD14RBMX

User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; GTB6.4; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; MS-RTC EA 2; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) [!]

This is the slowest I've seen - day or night, peak or slack time.

And there's no limit to amount I can download.

We live about 6 blocks from the end of nowhere. If we can get this type of DSL performance. I would think almost anyone can. I can't see any need for Hughes.

Yeah well DSL on standard copper wire at least has an 18000 foot limit from the phone office which translates to you getting DSL if you live roughly less than 3.5 miles from the phone office. I live 9 or 10 miles from the nearest. Of course there is fiber if you live close enough to a big city for one of the major carriers to have taken the time to install fiber. I live about 90 miles from the nearest one of those and I live pretty close to the dead center of the US, I would hate to see how long it will take some of the people in the mountains and deserts to get anything but Satt.

I got my system upgrade for free but I am on a contract with the agreement that if my service doesn't satisfy me at any time during the 2 years I can get out free of charge. The only problem I see is that they replaced my $800 2 watt system with the new smaller cheap KA system and I am not sure but what they listed me as a residential customer so I am suppose to get a call from exec. customer care's tech support person this evening to get all that straightened out. Good luck with the DSL, even if you get speeds like 128 k it should still have hughes beat for the most part.

Does anyone have a copy of the survey that Hughesnet sent out? Would be interesting to see the questions and if they dealt with bandwidth limitations and such.

And would be interesting to know what type of package(commercial?) the library got that would allow for large amounts of bandwidth to be used. And the cost per month. Since the Hughesnet donation of it must expire at some point.

Dialup is painful now a days. But on the current satellites, you have to be careful on bandwidth use and don't think that you can just go to every video site and stream TV shows for hours on end. Unless it's the 2am to 7am eastern time FAP free time. Thats got WildBlue beat by a mile. I've read a few WildBlue posts that say they had good speeds for two weeks and then ran out of bandwidth so it was either be slow for two weeks or upgrade to the next package. At least with Hughesnet, your bucket refills every 24 hours at a designated time.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/satellite-internet-access-helps-build-community-keeps-rural-americans-connected-to-the-world-92310234.html

I don't have a copy of it but if I remember correctly the survey they are reffering to was one that I got an email request from them to fill out online and yeah it had questions pertaining to whether I thought the fap was fair and what I thought of the free time and how my speeds were doing and alot of other stuff. I think that is the one that took me forever to get through too. As far as Wildblue vs. Hughes is concerned I have had both and you are right, hughes has WB beat hands down. If you figure it up, Hughes allows you to download more, doesn't throttle speed (there is some controversy still going on here) or pings and has the fap free period now. I would never call them saints by any means but if you didn't have to put up with the outsourced tech support then they wouldn't be that bad. And if you sign up as a business customer like I did you shouldn't have the outsourced tech support either.

I've been with Wild Blue about 5 years, at first the speeds were as advertised, but after about 30 days the speeds started to slide down hill, they got so bad the I couldn't even open my browser, I called and raised hell and the speeds went back up for a few days and right back down, that's been the scenario for the past few years, I thought about Hughes but after reading some of the war stories from their users it is doing the same thing Wild Blue is, I hear about the fine print in the contract saying they do not guarantee theirs speeds from the git go, but like a lot of people I didn't even get a copy of the contract, all I got was the copy of the page I signed, Like I said in my post I have recorded my speeds since last Sept. which I plan on sending to the BBB in Denver, it seems that is the only way people get any results, my average speed was about 550 kbps which is about 1/3 their advertised speed. That is terrible speeds for the $88.00 a month they charge, and no there isn't a equipment rental added in there, I bought my equipment when It was installed, big rip off if you ask me. You would think they would just confess that they have way oversold their bandwidth but instead they just lie to everyone and claim your equipment is to blame. Wait until you have had Hughes for a while and see if your speed holds up, I hope it will but from what I've read in the Hughes parts of this forum it is just a clone of Wild Blue. Of course where I live there is nothing available except dial up and phone service alone where I live is $70.00 a month and then you have to pay AOL or some other provider and you end up with over a $100.00 a month just for internet service. Also it is long distance to call anywhere outside the small area so there is more charges. I guess the people who choose to live in the country just don't need internet service according to the providers. Sounds like you don't live far from me, I am out in the country about 15 miles west of Muskogee. Thanks for the invite but I think I will stay with Wild Blue, If you quit them and try to reconnect later they make you pay rental on the equipment you bought to begin with, I checked with them and they said it was because they don't sell the equipment anymore it is all rented, not fair but that is their policy so they say. Thanks for the post guess you are in the same boat I am and it has a bad leak in it.

I live east of Jay a bit. I have had Hughesnet for 8 years off and on so I am aware of what could potentially happen to my speeds and probably will sometime in the future. I cruise these forums alot and I havn't read anything about Hughes having any problems with oversold beams yet so I think I am safe for a while and I am a small business customer so hopefully like with my KU equipment that will help hold off the demons for a while longer than most and maybe even till the new satt go's online but we will see. Spaceway is another option from what I have read about them. They don't have crowding problems and they have nearly the same free times and faps as Hughes does and their monthly prices are comparable with U.S. only support. The only catch I have read about them is it will cost upwards of around $250 or so for an install. They charge $99 for equipment and most installers charge around $150 for the install. Anyhow Verizon is working to cover everyone and there are alot of fixed wireless providers popping up all over Oklahoma so that there might be other options for us someday. I wish you luck with wildblue if thats where you are staying and if I hear of anything else in the Muskogee area I will post about it because I cruise alot of the fixed wireless providers websites and there are a couple down your way that are expanding their coverages all the time.

Download Connection is:: 2279 Kbps about 2.3 Mbps (tested with 6152 kB)

Download Speed is:: 278 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2010-04-11 17:34:23 GMT

Bottom Line:: 40X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 3.68 sec

Tested from a 6152 kB file and took 22.114 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 133.27 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Well no offence to anyone on this side of the fence but you could switch to Hughesnet now. It isn't like these speeds will last forever but I just upgraded to the new KA band system with the elite plan which is supposed to be 2Mb down and 300Kb up and I am staying around 2.3 to 2.6 Mb down and 250 to 300 Kb up with avg pings running from 550 to 700. Hughes is just another satt. system with bad tech support but I have been with both companies and I have to say that if you press them hard enough when you have trouble they usually try to resolve the problem and their over all policies with the new fap system and free download period show they are trying to make their systems customer friendly. Just something to look into if you don't have any other option. I would do some serious research into cell service if I were you though if you havn't already because I live in Oklahoma as well and I thought that just my little corner here by Grand Lake was the only spot in this state that wasn't covered by Sprint and Verizon 3g and I am still not sure Verizon doesn't cover me but not going to pay a $500 deposit to find out for sure.

These are 9000 speeds on 3 day old equipment. lets just hope and pray it will last.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 2328 Kbps about 2.3 Mbps (tested with 6152 kB)

Download Speed is:: 284 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2010-04-10 14:23:28 GMT

Bottom Line:: 41X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 3.61 sec

Tested from a 6152 kB file and took 21.646 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 138.28 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Upload Connection is:: 257 Kbps about 0.3 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 31 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2010-04-10 14:26:14 GMT

Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 33.03 sec

Tested from a 579 kB file and took 18.476 seconds to complete

Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 82.27 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Welcome back... and thanks for the positive feedback. I've been pretty damn busy lately for sure.

I don't think there will be all that many updates in the next couple of weeks however. Starting Wednesday I'll be moving, then before I can get settled in I have to fly out to Washington D.C. for a Medical Convention that I do some technical stuff for every year. But after I get back and catch my breath I'll be back on it Fulltime until I get the entire site revamped.

So stick around... lots more to come.

- Damon

Looks good but then I have come to expect nothing less from this site. You all always impress.

I know this is late to come down the pipe but all you need is a $30 network hub, just run an ethernet cable to the internet port on the hub and then an ethernet cable for each computer from the hub to each computer you want to access the net and thats it if you are running vista on all computers. If you have xp on any of them you will need to run the network set up wizard on those but after that all computers hooked to the hub can access the net at the same time anytime.

I might soon have the whole .98 2 watt system for sale with the hn7000s modem.

I had this problem on the same service lvl and the same satt. you are on. I am on a wired network and I read in the forums that on a network it is easiest to run a hub and not a router if you dont mind running wires. I was already on a wired network run through a router so instead of assigning IP addresses through the router manually I just went to Wal-Mart and bought a $30 5 port hub and hooked it up and bingo , almost all pages load the first time through the gate now.

Also I agree that I don't understand why you have 4 ground blocks but I did have trouble with the transmit side of my ground block burning up which turned out to be water in the underground conduit causing it bu at any rate it didn't affect my page loads but it did slow my upload speeds way down before it would finally just lose connection after a while. I went through 4 ground blocks before I discovered it wasnt moisture getting in around the connections but instead water getting into the coax under ground.

I think everything you asked for is in my sig line except speed. I am not going to post speed tests because I know what they will be as I keep a close eye on them. I have slowed down over the past months but I still get 1.2 down pretty much all the time and 250 to 270 24/7 and pings never exceed 800 24/7. Well I do get an odball ping in a long string once in a while that will hit near 1000Ms but the average for the string never go's over 800. Outside of NOC weather problems I havn't yet fell below 1MB down.

Aye, I have seen it in other forums several times as of late. I changed from a router to a hub and it fixed mine but obviously if you have a wireless network this info wont help you and many say that like posted above that flushing your DNS helps.

Download Connection is:: 1191 Kbps about 1.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 145 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2007/08/08 - 7:48am

Bottom Line:: 21X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 7.06 sec

Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 20.578 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Looks Great : 11.62 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Upload Connection is:: 257 Kbps about 0.3 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 31 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main)

Test Time:: 2007/08/08 - 7:49am

Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 33.03 sec

Tested from a 579 kB file and took 18.469 seconds to complete

Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 133.64 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Running a bit slow this morning, hehe.

I don't know which satt. you are on but my service across the board was terrible untill last night. I too use vent as well as my wife and we both play EQ. Aside from the 2 second delay from the time we talk till we are heard it works very well with Hughes most of the time and peeps are more than patient and understanding of our delay. With that said when our pings go up to around 900+ in the game as they did yesterday then vent will become almost unusable and pings can hit 20,000 or more on vent as it is much  more sensitive than other apps. With what you are experiancing I would say it is either our satt. or the noc. I have been getting temporary service degredations lately as well but like you said they seldom last long but it did yesterday. I think was around 6 or 7 pm last night before it improved. Not real sure of where my NOC is but I have noticed that if it is storming in the midwest around Omaha and up that way I often experiance troubles so I am thinking it could be NOC weather related. And I thought I would add that unless our pings get really high like stated above then our transmissions are crystal clear with just the delay. Also since this subject is here, would a 1 MB up and down fixed wireless connection work well for hosting a vent server? I am a little fuzzy on whether I will for sure be able to hit their antenna from here depending on where they chose to put it exactly but I am pretty sure I will have this service availible to me around the first of the year. Thanx

Got an add from dell today, gonna copy and paste here. This isn't a bad deal at all.

   

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I don't know if you will know with my distance from you but do you know if the Grove OK area is on the slate and also I would like to know if there will be a distance limitation to it like DSL has and about how far it would be if so? The reason I even dare to ask is because they are laying what I am sure to be fibre optic cable around town but it is unknown to what this cable will pertain too.

Aye that is what I was trying to explain. Here is an example of my pings but keep in mind my service plan and dish because alot on the residential plans can add about 100 to 150 ms to my pings usually on Hughes.

Pinging www.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=726ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 69.147.114.210:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 706ms, Maximum = 726ms, Average = 711ms

Pinging www.pcpitstop.com [64.29.201.21] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=687ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=704ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=674ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=714ms TTL=236

Ping statistics for 64.29.201.21:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 674ms, Maximum = 714ms, Average = 694ms

Pinging www.testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=769ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=677ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=708ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=698ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 677ms, Maximum = 769ms, Average = 713ms

Sorry I couldnt for the life of me remember how to set up a long ping string so I just did 3 short ones. That is what I get 24/7 and have since I switched back but I see alot of pings from other peeps on hughes residential plans with the smaller disthat run from 800 to 1000 ms pings with their avrages running usually close to 850 to 900.

Also please note that I am not saying Hughes is better than wildblue any longer. Most Hughes customers no longer see peak time slowdowns either anymore and thus get their package speeds or close usually and the pings are better and they have the new fap free time but at the same rate Wildblue is cheaper, gets very good speeds as well and has a higher fap limit stretched out over the rolling month which makes it a bit easier on some. And both have rotten customer service or used to anyhow if you are using wildblue and not coops. If you using coops you just got an unfair advantage  :2funny: J/K.

I switched from Wildblue to Hughes at the first of the year because they have there pings capped. If anyone is getting 900 ms pings I am not sure how because the last I knew the best anyone could get was around 1100  and stayed closer to 1500 to 3000 for me. If you are not going to be using secure sights or any gaming or VPN where lag matters then you would do good with wildblue. Otherwise you are better off with hughes. If you do switsh to wildblue go with you local electric coop if possible to get it and not through Wildblue themselves as the customer service will usually be much better that way. Also I have been reading about alot of good experiances with people going through Dish Network to get set up.

I have tried it over and over and over and over and beleive me it is not a coincedence. I am using IE7 on XP pro. I should add this just so it is known. While I am not a proffesional Tech I do check and double check things on my own several times over usually before I ask on the forums although I still have been known to miss the obvious annoying little things that make me look idiotic at times, hehehe. This isn't really a big thing but it does make me curious and that was a first time burst test by the way and that is why it is so high, was just using it for an example. It always starts at like 30% on my first test and gives me a burst speed, here is the sencond and accurate test and what I get for speed 24/7 now.

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::

Download Connection is:: 1494 Kbps about 1.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 182 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2007/07/12 - 6:59am

Bottom Line:: 26X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 5.63 sec

Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 16.406 seconds to complete

Oh and just for fun here is a test with my mouse curser on the screen while it is running.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 528 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 64 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2007/07/12 - 7:03am

Bottom Line:: 9X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 16 sec

Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 46.422 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: May need help : running at only 49.67 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)

And once more with the mouse curser on the toolbar, hehe.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 1497 Kbps about 1.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 183 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2007/07/12 - 7:05am

Bottom Line:: 26X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 5.6 sec

Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 16.375 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 40.83 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 40.55 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)

Get this, I found out that if I move my curser up of the screen onto the tool bar the test runs normally. Figure that one out, I don't have any idea why but it works every time and if I leave my mouse curser anywhere but on the tool bar at the top of explorer than it stalls and doesnt run right.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 2061 Kbps about 2.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Download Speed is:: 252 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2007/07/11 - 11:58am

Bottom Line:: 36X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 4.06 sec

Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 11.89 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 93.7 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)