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  1. I'm all for open source development in every aspect. And proxmox is very inviting group of well put together software. Where most open source software, you use the product, and get community assistance. Which proxmox also has community forums. Most open source / free, built on the shoulders of those behind us maintains repositories, where updates whether security or features are pushed, that end users should regularly update their system from. Such as RHEL, PFsense, and other major successful have implemented means to financially support the continued production by means of subscriptions. Well so does proxmox. Here is where the 'rules' are bent and crinkled with proxmox. Proxmox has decided that if you want to use their software in production, you must pay. As they state, anything else is considered 'unstable' and should not be used in production. However many of us have been using / contributing the platform over a period of time, before the 'stable' repos were removed to subscription only. As of this time (nearly six months since the 3.3 release) there is no 'fail-safe' upgrade process, unless of course you pay. I should state, this means you cannot update to the latest version. Security? That is anyones guess. And I am now guessing. Sure, there appears to be a community solution, after attempting this on a local dev, the troubles were more than I was willing to risk in a production environment. Fair enough, time to search out viable alternatives and never look back. Now ask the proxmox staff why they choose to go this route, their answer is simple, clone the repo and compile the binaries yourself. Hmm, nice skate of the license there. After all, they are available, just not really usable. As one would be compelled to devote extended periods of time, where time could be spent elsewhere, more productive. My thoughts, they should completely phase out the 'free' aspect, and go full subscription only, immediately. As proxmox does not fit into the open source model I've always known. Yes, open source does not mean free, however using people as guinea pigs to develop and bug fix, then turning around and shutting out those that assisted the development, is uncool. Simple words of warning, play, use proxmox, real life, either pay or don't even bother, move along away from proxmox.
  2. After several years on and off, learning console commands for openvz, getting frustrated with the ever changing and problematic clustering of HN's , I've found a sweet spot, proxmox. Nothing I have used , have worked this flawless and stable, of course ESXi is something I've only dabbled in , where vspere is costly, proxmoxVE is open to the public much in the same way RHEL / centOS is. As an example: At the moment I've move the minecraft server into a VM, allocated 2 CPU's and 2GB ram, where previously mines Crux used 4 CPU's and 8 GB ram, now running virtually with less than half core resources, no complaints from the users either. Of course the new minecraft server is turnkey, which all together simply outperforms crux ten fold, at least in this environment. Getting started on migrating windows server 2008 on the second node, which of course should be a blast in itself, but hey it's windows, so we'll deal with the overly complicated malarky. On another note, you can either create a VM or CT, openvz will use KVM and as always CT's can only use openVZ kernels. None the less installing windows7 as a VM is a breeze, I was amazed at how the system automatically sets up the bridge and virti0 interfaces, duh-me ? Simple and easy. With a plethora of templates instantly downloadable, proxmox is king at the moment in my eye's. You might be thinking 'sounds like proxmox has taken all the control out of your hands and automated it , just the opposite actually, don't expect to image and run , you'll need to do a bit of background on basic usage. proxmox here and now is combining the best of todays virtual solutions into one UI that rivals the best, in fact they use the best, built on the very same technology as the best. Five out of five stars Proxmox 3.0 !!!! BTW , support is the least costly of anything that comes close , well , nothing really comes close at the moment. For less than 10US/ month if you choose. Amazing !!!!!
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