gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 games as violent as halo 2 are pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Whether something is pointless is purely in the eye of the beholder. You can't be stereotypical in thinking everyone will have the same point of view or opinion as you. I actually enjoy many FPS (First Person Shooters) out there. I mainly play Call of Duty and its expansion as of right now. I might be getting World of Warcraft pretty soon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wmmc Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 I havent played Halo 2, so I have no idea what its like. My game of choice is Tomb Raider, but depends on ones view, I am 40 years old and play others on occasion, kids should stay away from the violent type of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 games as violent as halo 2 are pointless Try Doom3. What kind of violence makes Halo 2 so pointless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 kids should stay away from the violent type of games. exactly, cos they cant see the diffrence of real and unreal VanBuren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Depends on the kid really, some can be very aware of what is real, and what isn't. Strangely, IQ has something to do with it. (yeah, yeah, everything's relative... C'est la vie.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Yeah, I've watched violent movies since I was a wee little one, but I'm not going to go out and take a chainsaw to anybody. I pretty much did everything at a young age (eg, walk, talk, ride a bike, swim, etc.). I was riding a bike without training wheels at 3 years of age. I'm in no way bragging, but I guess it's because of my relativley high IQ, as RTB noted. However, there are geniuses out there who's IQs are through the roof, yet still have problems discerning fact and fiction. I think it really depends on the person. IQ plays a role, but it is ultimately the person I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 i think that games like halo 2 and san andreas maybe curently acceptable but that will not be for long. in medeval times trying to knock someone of a horse with a very sharp stick was perfectly good and fun. In the roman age beheading people was a hobby of emperor augustus when he was bored so the pattern is as time goes on violence used for entertainment becomes less popular. So enjoy the games like halo now but give it time and i assure u playing such games will be appauling behaviour so be prepared to change ur way's of entertainment in time. lol however i will be happy to listen to any objections, or comments or questions about my statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 You use three examples, each a very long time away from each other, then refer to violent games as if they will lose their playability ina much shorter time. I agree with the world trying to become less violent, but there are certain presidents and bosses that do not listen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Violence will always be a part of society. There are no two ways about it. As long as there are conflicting ideals (which there always will be), it will be present. You're little poking people with sticks example has one flaw. At the same time they were prodding each other, they were also staging huge wars and taking over neighboring lands. Violence in no way has faded. It is just now taking place on a smaller scale. Violent feelings and inhibitions can't be expressed as freely as they use to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 so u aknowledge my comment had some truth to it perhaps not in this generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Absolutely not. I'm saying violence and it's portals will never fade. It has been around since the beginning of time and will continue till the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 mr hahn u could not be more wrong i may have over estimated the rate violence is becoming disliked at but it is still happening at a steady rate, 80 years ago their were 2 world wars less the 40 years apart their has not been another for 80 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 and my prior comment was aimed at troll guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 according to religion violence was not around at the begining of time infact in the garden of eden their was no violence the closest thing too it was a sly serpent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 Problem is that in some movies and also videogames, when you fight ppl can take several kicks against head, and still stand. In reallity you end up in a hospital, dead or with some sirious damages. Most kids dont know how much damage a person can take, most kids probl know that if you use a gun they problably end up dead. But kicking against head and fight with baseball bats its not deadly..... All this violence is stored in the brain unconsciously VanBuren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 in the beggining when god created the heavens and the earth there was no such thing as violence, i pray that one day a saviour will come and return the world to such a status, in the meantime i fight for my prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 mr hahn u could not be more wrong i may have over estimated the rate violence is becoming disliked at but it is still happening at a steady rate' date=' 80 years ago their were 2 world wars less the 40 years apart their has not been another for 80 years or so[/quote'] Your talking small apples there bud. The world has been around longer than you can count in your lifetime. 40 and 80 years make no comparison. From the point of religion, violence started shortly after the creation of Eden. Eden wasn't a paradise for very long. You're giving an example to something that lasted such little time that there is no comparison here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 i am aware that the world has been around for more than 80 years thankyou in fact i refered to the roman age just 20 minutes ago however my point is that, violence is decreasing in parts of the world at increasing rates, it decreased a bit throughout the roman age that was milleniums on end, it decrease a fair bit through out the middle ages, which is over 1000 years, and now in just 80 years it has decrease a little. A metaphoric way of describing this is that "non violence is gainging speed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 You're saying there has been a steady decline in violence since time began? I would have to disagree. The two atomic bombs dropped in WW2 would amount to major battles or even perhaps campaigns way back when with just the push of a button. Combine that with 3 constant fronts of fighting all over the world, and I would say that it has at least stayed steady, if not increased. I've explained all I can. If you don't see how flawed your hypotheses are, I'm afraid there's nothing more I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 i"ve shown u where the steady declining's of violence r occuring u show me where they r increasing or at a stand still for that matter....................i would love to see u do so as i dont believe u can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 mr 18 year old with a high iq is struggling to match a young teens arguements ooooh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 If anyone would like to back his comment that I'm in any way "struggling" here, please jump in at any time so I can get a good laugh. All of your examples have been from the past 2000 years. Comparing 2000 with billions of years is just nonsense. You've proven nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingangguly Posted December 10, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 u have shown no signs of violence increasing nor any of it not decreasing for that matter i have show many instances in the last 5000 years not 2000 where it has been decreasing so yes u r losing angles to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 10, 2004 CID Share Posted December 10, 2004 LMAO! 5000, 2000, it doesn't matter. You can't compare so few thousand years to a history that goes back billions and is for the most part undocumented. As I said, you've proven nothing. Even your hypothesis for it declining in that little timeline is very flawed. You've gone through 6th or 7th grade history, and you think you know the history of the world itself. You don't have enough background in anything you're trying to argue to remotely try and prove a point that is so abstract as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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