BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 weirdly, if i test while im on the phone (which is hooked to my lan like a normal pc), i get: Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 590.82Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.97Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 4172 Kbps about 4.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 509 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 11:28:43 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 74X faster than 56K 1MB download in 2.01 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 67.82 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-UP8QBOAE0 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 562 Kbps about 0.6 Mbps (tested with 579 KB) Upload Speed is:: 69 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 11:29:07 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 10X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 14.84 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 91.16 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-OJWVTZFIX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 do you have use router now? try this 12 MB download test http://www.testmy.net/d_load.php?ni=1&tt=1&s=12160&st=st&ta=&top= also test against my server use the 20 MB test http://www.testmy.net/d_load.php?ta=1&top=VanBuren&pop=1&ni=1 VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 12mb: :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 4610 Kbps about 4.6 Mbps (tested with 12160 KB) Download Speed is:: 563 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 11:39:15 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 82X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.82 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 85.44 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-USTPXWL8C 20mb: :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5573 Kbps about 5.6 Mbps (tested with 20972 KB) Download Speed is:: 680 KB/s Tested From:: http://thegamer.serveftp.com Test Time:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 linux server: ferrisr@BarfTheDog ferrisr $ wget http://thegamer.serveftp.com/20MB --11:55:35-- http://thegamer.serveftp.com/20MB => `20MB' Resolving thegamer.serveftp.com... 213.115.113.116 Connecting to thegamer.serveftp.com[213.115.113.116]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 21,475,255 [text/plain] 100%[====================================>] 21,475,255 662.68K/s ETA 00:00 11:56:09 (647.49 KB/s) - `20MB' saved [21475255/21475255] Attached a shot of nettraf. I have to tweak it some, but it hits 900 then goes back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 thats nice speed overseas also make a upload test against my server, use 2992 KB it might just be your route to testmy.net server what speed do you have here http://speedtest.cogeco.net/ VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 how do i testupload to your server? http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5154066;430246;7ed9ef284b6a561f2c2f89071de2dd5d;2.0;speedtest.cogeco.net/1109178225 that is the test site you posted. It locked on at 800 KB/sec after it got there, which took a second or so. Same with upload. Dunno if that is tweakable or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 this is upload test to my server, there is a link on downloadpage to it aswell http://www.testmy.net/u_load.php?tt=&ta=1&top=VanBuren&align=left somehow your connection seems very sensitive with SP2 tweaks,, it might confict somehow with your linux router, i do not know, but normally with these tweaks, you get alot of burst in the start continue finetuning DefaultReceiveWindow the other settings should be in range for upload you can change the DefaultSendWindow the recommended settings from Cablenut tweam is 1024x ( your upload cap in KB/s ) both for DefaultReceivewindow and DefaultSendwindow and that work very well for most ppl VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is: 489 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Upload Speed is: 60 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Bottom Line: 9 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 17.07 second(s) Validation Link :: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=66OSKAB8C I did pretty good with the sp1 tweaks. My connection still acted like that on SP1 w/o the network between me. I'll try hooking right up to the modem and running some tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is: 489 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Upload Speed is: 60 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Bottom Line: 9 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 17.07 second(s) Validation Link :: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=66OSKAB8C I did pretty good with the sp1 tweaks. My connection still acted like that on SP1 w/o the network between me. I'll try hooking right up to the modem and running some tests. thats not bad overseas, remember, when you connect direct to modem, force 10 Mbps half duplex on your NIC VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 oh... i didnt force the duplex. It is a sb5100 though, it supports like 40mb down and 30mb up. As far as i know its 100Mbps full duplex. Anyway here is the post i wrote in notepad while testing: -- without linux router/network: i got a cpl slow tests, like 3mbit, 3.5mbit. retested a few times and got: :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5194 Kbps about 5.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 634 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 12:33:55 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 93X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.62 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 108.85 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-VZ6Y8ATEM :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5446 Kbps about 5.4 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 665 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 12:34:19 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 97X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.54 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 118.98 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-3NOB5FTHM :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5485 Kbps about 5.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 670 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 12:34:47 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 98X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.53 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 120.46 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-MOIPTQRX0 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 500 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 1013 KB) Upload Speed is:: 61 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 12:35:32 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 9X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 16.79 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 70.07 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-REFI89GP2 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 482 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 1013 KB) Upload Speed is:: 59 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 12:36:02 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 9X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 17.36 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 63.95 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-NZ9QPWUMK Upload needs some tweaking and I have to investigate what the linux router is doing... http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5973968;507915;0f5fc263c8ee57952754c93bf1b6f8c4;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1109180320 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5850196;485476;80ab57351386d39ac75471872b8aa389;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1109180397 http://jlab4.jlab.org:7123/ : TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.0f click START to begin Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 I saw "10. Now you got a few values set in adjuster, change DefultRcvWindow and GlobalMaxTcpWindoSize to that RWIN value you calculated before. If your calculated RWIN is above 65535, you need to set Tcp13230pts to 1." on your site My tcp13230opts is 0.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 do not force 100 Mbps full duplex direct to modem, that will slow down both your upload and download aslong as you dont have a cap above 10 Mbps, 10 Mbps half duplex will work best Cablemodems is half duplex and alot of NIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 I saw "10. Now you got a few values set in adjuster, change DefultRcvWindow and GlobalMaxTcpWindoSize to that RWIN value you calculated before. If your calculated RWIN is above 65535, you need to set Tcp13230pts to 1." on your site My tcp13230opts is 0.... yea thats correct, beqause your TcpWindowSize is 64240 unless you changed it VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 [root@smoothwall root]# ethtool -s eth2 speed 10 duplex half Cannot get current device settings: Operation not supported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 [root@smoothwall root]# ethtool -s eth2 speed 10 duplex half Cannot get current device settings: Operation not supported not setting speed not setting duplex The nic that is used for wan doesnt support forcing the duplex and stuff.... is there any other tweaking I can do? And, you said use 128000 then increase in steps of it. I got the best results with 128000. Also, my globalmaxtcpwindow is 6424000... should i set the max window to 128000 and turn on tcp1323opts? BAF im trying to figure out whats wrong with your system and you keep changing settings without telling me, do as i tell you to do or fix it yourself.... Use the 6000 768 file as it is, just finetune DefaultReceiveWindow and DefaultSend window VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 I did. Default recieve window is 12800. Before you posted that, i set the globalmaxtcpwindowsize to 128000 and tcp1320opts to on and rebooted. running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 731.73Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.84Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Almost to 6mb/768kb. Do you want me to reverse the maxwindow and tcp1320? I haven't tweaked the send window at all by theway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 leave all settings as they are in the 6000 768 file, you dont need to change tcp1320opts unless you set your TcpWindowsize above 65535 do not mix that up with DefaultReceiveWindow, thats a AFD parameter defenitions from http://www.dslnuts.com/2kxp.shtml 1. DefaultReceiveWindow - The number of receive bytes that AFD buffers on a connection before imposing flow control. For some applications, a larger value here gives slightly better performance at the expense of increased resource utilization. Value Type: REG_DWORD Default: 4096/8192/8192 2. DefaultSendWindow - This is similar to DefaultReceiveWindow, but for the send side of connections. Value Type: REG_DWORD Default: 4096/8192/8192 23. Tcp1323Opts - This parameter controls RFC 1323 time stamps and window-scaling options. Time stamps and window scaling are enabled by default, but can be manipulated with flag bits. Bit 0 controls window scaling, and bit 1 controls time stamps. Value Type: REG_DWORD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 im already back behind the router. I'll load it as is reboot and test again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 6000/768 untweaked w/o router: http://jlab4.jlab.org:7123/ : TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.0f click START to begin Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 724.04Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.59Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link click START to re-test Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 738.26Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.70Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link click START to re-test http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ : TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.3.3a click START to begin Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 726.28Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.47Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link click START to re-test Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 731.73Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.83Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link click START to re-test Tweaktest: http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:1c92c0c?service=cable&speed=6000&os=winXP&via=normal (complains about rwin now) testmy.net: :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5076 Kbps about 5.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 620 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:30:51 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 91X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.65 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 104.1 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-15IQ8SX94 :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 4932 Kbps about 4.9 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 602 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:31:04 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 88X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.7 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 98.31 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-KVY8ZEJ9B :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 5602 Kbps about 5.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 684 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:31:15 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 100X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.5 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 125.25 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-E6VHFSC83 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 528 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 579 KB) Upload Speed is:: 64 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:31:36 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 9X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 16 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 79.59 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-DX1QLHIK3 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 458 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 1013 KB) Upload Speed is:: 56 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:32:16 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 8X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 18.29 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 55.78 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-BNWV6DIEG :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 383 Kbps about 0.4 Mbps (tested with 579 KB) Upload Speed is:: 47 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Test Time:: Wed Feb 23 13:32:41 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 7X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 21.79 sec Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 30.27 % faster than the average for host (adelphia.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/id-F7TM8YLXJ http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5117412;384024;b0888af08ebe9d37239984f1c7f68834;2.0;mia.speakeasy.net/1109183707 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5664499;397114;6035e8ae460ec4a085ed68cd473aec47;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1109183741 allt hose are 100mbit full duplex. 10mb half duplex: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5732922;418760;72292125c6b7bb7076d85dd83698d2dd;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1109183814 TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.0f click START to begin Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 738.26Kb/s running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 5.50Mb/s The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link click START to re-test Seems like there sint much difference between half and full duplex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 Tweaktest: http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:1c92c0c?service=cable&speed=6000&os=winXP&via=normal (complains about rwin now) Seems like there sint much difference between half and full duplex. Thats DSLR tweaktester, and they dosent use AFD tweaking, their Program Dr.Tcp cant change those parameters, so ignore the recommendations from that test, im only interested in the result your modem is probl so smart so it can hadle full duplex, alot of modems do not... try the 20 MB test on my site again and the 12 MB test at testmy.net and check score VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 Its only a sb5100. Do I really have to do those tests again? I have the network back online, and everyone is getting annoyed with the phones going on and off line (we haev voip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 no hehe, you dont need to do that, i just thought you could compare score on those test without router like suggested, finetune DefaultSend window and DefaultReceiveWindow there is nothing more to do VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 alright. How should i tweak the send window on SP2? And same for defaultrecievewindow, 128000 and increase by 128000 each time until its good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 try this first all files in version 5 has a 10% overtweak, cos alot of ISP advertise 4000 Kbps and the cap is 4400 lets calculate strict after your advertised speed 6000 Kbps/ 8,192 = 732 KB/s x 1024 = 749568 set that on DefautReceiveWindow 768 / 8,192 = 93 x 1024 = 95232 set that on DefaultSendwindow If it dosent help, change DefaultReceivewindow start at 128000 and increase in steps of 128000 until you reach a point where speed drop, then change back and for DefaultSendWindow start at 16384 and go up in steps of 16384 until is go slower VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAF Posted February 23, 2005 CID Share Posted February 23, 2005 alright, thanks. A lot of times with adelphia people get way over their caps anyway. When the cap was 4mb, i got 4.4.4.6mbit download, but never got the upload tweaked right. Is there room for a possibility of going over with these tweaks? Also, now that in the past week our upstream has gone from 256 to 768, is there a reason to even run my traffic shaper for the voip any more? And should I do like it says and subtract 10% before putting it in the shaper, or just punch in 768? Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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