FIOS Problem?

[hupp3l]

Hi

I have the very fast FIOS 15000/2000 fiber optic line. Van Buren I loaded your version 6 for cable nut. I run this line through a linksys wireless G router directly. Now here is my problem. I think it is my router that is not configured right. My speeds fluctuate between 14.38Mb/s and 6Mb/s But my upload speed is constant at 1.98mb/s. This fluctuation is irretating the crap out of me. Is there any other Rwin nr's thats better? I called fios help line and twice I got different numbers. I am overall happy with my service. BTW I have 3 computers on the network and the signal is excellent. Thanx for the help.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 5693 Kbps about 5.7 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB)

Download Speed is:: 695 kB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Test Time:: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:16:55 GMT-0800

Bottom Line:: 102X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.47 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 184.79 % faster than the average for host (verizon.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-ULA075P1G

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 7066 Kbps about 7.1 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB)

Download Speed is:: 863 kB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Test Time:: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:22:22 GMT-0800

Bottom Line:: 126X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.19 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 253.3 % faster than the average for host (verizon.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-0DO1PASMH

[VanBuren]

hey hupp3l and welcome to the forum

it might be loss, that cause this

have you tested other sites aswell?

If its the same at other sites try this

change DefaultReceiveWindow in cablenut to 384000 and click save to registry and reboot

VanBuren

[KingCobra]

What result do you get when you use the D-Link router supplied with your service?

[hupp3l]

when I use the Dlink I get it pretty stable. The thing is just that my upload speed is so stable it stays at 1.98mb/s everytime but my dl will fluctuate alot. I could understand if by 1 mb/s but not by more than that. Im going to try the new Rwin. could you pls enlighten me as to what this does?

[KingCobra]

Which Linksys model, version and firmware?  Same questions on the D-Link.

[SuperG03]

hupp3l,

  This is not FIOS problem, it is the router.  The Linksys WRT54G or GS have KNOWN problems with PPPoE above about 6 MBits.  It appears to be a limitation.  I have seen numerous other users report similar problems on different boards.  Using DHCP for the WAN connection allows greater than 15MBits, so no problem.  I think that is why Verizon went with DLink in the first place, because they were able to use PPPoE at or above 15MBits.  What I did, was use the DLink router they gave me to connect PPPoE to verizon.  I then hooked my Linksys behind it using DHCP (this allows you to still get your 15MBits, since it is DHCP not PPPoE).  Basically I have a double NAT configuration.  But, it works beautifully.  I get the full speed.  Here is a speed test I just ran:

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 15436 Kbps about 15.4 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB)

Download Speed is:: 1884 kB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Test Time:: Sun Mar 13 2005 02:47:23 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)

Bottom Line:: 276X faster than 56K 1MB download in 0.54 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 663.03 % faster than the average for host (verizon.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-1OLFKMEGH

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 1780 Kbps about 1.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)

Upload Speed is:: 217 kB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Test Time:: Sun Mar 13 2005 02:49:09 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)

Bottom Line:: 32X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 4.72 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 436.14 % faster than the average for host (verizon.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-T9YBQ8FO5

This is with my computer behind the linksys, which is behind the dlink.  That should solve your problem, and allow you to still use the DLink.  Hope this helps.

SuperG03

EDIT:  One more thing, get DrTCP, and set the following:

Tcp Recieve Window: 307824

Windows Scaling: Yes

Time Stamping: Yes

Selective Acks: Yes

Dial Up (RAS) MTU: leave blank

Path MTU Discovery: leave default

Black Hole Detection: leave default

Max Duplicate ACKs: leave blank

TTL: leave blank

Under "Adapter Settings", make sure your ethernet device is selected and then in MTU put: 1492

Click Save and once it says settings saved, close it and restart your computer.  Good Luck.

[VanBuren]

dern didnt know Verzion FIOS using PPPoE and a MTU of 1492

I will add that to the Verizon files i have, and update version 6 

here is the updated Version 6 file

VanBuren

[hupp3l]

I too think that this problem is with my network settings. I set it up to have my dlink first and then the linksys. The linksys using DHCP and DLINK PPPoe. Still I get crappy speeds. I also updated my registry settings with your new cablenut settings. Then I changed the recieve window to 307824 but still the same. Ever heard of a website called miranda? Its is run by the government. http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ Anyway here is my stats for those tests too.

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 6139 Kbps about 6.1 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB)

Download Speed is:: 749 kB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Test Time:: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:49:54 GMT-0800

Bottom Line:: 110X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1.37 sec

Diagnosis: Awesome! 20% + : 202.41 % faster than the average for host (verizon.net)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-VD6KXSF9J

MIRANDA STATS

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:

Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[KingCobra]

Hupp31,

If I were you, I'd hook the D-Link back up, connect your computer to one of the wired ports and do the following:

1.

[hupp3l]

Well king cobra I did what you suggested but my speed is not up to standard. Im pretty sure it is just a setting. Even though verizon is trying they still havnt been able to find my problem

[Ronnie1055]

Hey hupp3l...

When you do the download test on this site... do you do it with or without the progress bar???  I don't know why... but when I do mine with the progress bar the speed test is very skewed... when I do it without the progress bar mine reads normal. 

Just a thought...

Good luck,

Ronnie

[SuperG03]

Well king cobra I did what you suggested but my speed is not up to standard. Im pretty sure it is just a setting. Even though verizon is trying they still havnt been able to find my problem

Can you please goto: http://www.broadbandreports.com/tweaks  run the test, click on results, and then in the last step screen, choose service: dsl, Speed (advertised): 9999 (since it can't do more than 4 digits), OS: whatever you have running, and Connection: routerpppoe and click recommend.  Then, it will show you some information and there will be a link under "Still stuck? copy/paste this url:".  Please post that URL here, and lets take a look at it.  Thanks.

SuperG03

[hupp3l]

Ronnie I tried that but to no avail. SuperG03 I did that also only to get an even worse score. I'm still looking into router settings. Should my linksys router be set as a gateway or router? I have it as Gateway. Here is the link you want. http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:a2eff0?service=dsl&speed=9999&os=winXP&via=routerpppoe I tried their setting but I have now even worse test scores. I am fully convinced it is settings.

[Ronnie1055]

hupp3l...

OK... Here is my suggestion... you might not want to do it because it is a pain... but it will narrow it down.

Set everything back to default... all your settings, etc.

(Make sure your routers are set to factory default)

Check the settings on your NIC card... if you haven't already... it should be set to auto / full-duplex

Put you Verizon supplied router in-line and test with it...  you should be getting your advertised speeds here!!  If not, then you need to get Verizon involved.

Remove the DLink and put your Linksys in-line and test with it...

If the Linksys tests the same as the DLink... then start adding from there...

I had to do the same thing on the wireless side of my DLink DI-624 this past week.  I tried everything and someone suggested I go back to square one... didn't want to... but I did and everything is back rock solid.

Please let us know what you find out.

Cheers,

Ronnie

[hupp3l]

Here is a couple of things I am going to do. I am going to play around with my Rwin number. I played with it last night and I pushed my upload speed from 1.97mb/s to 2.17mb/s. What is the max number I can put for it? other suggestions to what I can change? Then if I still dont get It I am going to Do your Idea Ronnie.

The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet

What does this mean????

[hupp3l]

The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet

What does this mean????

[Ronnie1055]

hupp3l...

OK... now you have my curiosity up... what did you do to get your upload increased???  Please let us know.

Take care,

Ronnie

[VanBuren]

i would delete all tweaks and work from that

open cablenut, click delete cablenut tweaks and click save to registry

now reboot and make a new speed and tweaktest

VanBuren

[hupp3l]

Well I am still a noob in tweaking broadband. But I played around with the default send window. I made it 500000 then I also made my globalmaxwindowsize also to 500000 Basically I made everything to do with tcp window size to 500000. I am going to delete all tweaks and then play around with the numbers.  But setting that number definitely increased my up speed.

[SuperG03]

hupp3l,

  Here is my link to the tweaks page.  http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:38c4110?service=dsl&speed=9999&os=winXP&via=routerpppoe  Yours has many things different.  Just though I would give it to you as a frame of reference if you wanted.  Also, I *think* "The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet" means (first let me guess that you got that from a Web100 speed test site?), that between you and the recieving server, there is a 10MBit connection that may cause your speeds to be lower?  That is just a pure guess.

Also, quick question.  When the verizon tech came to your house to install the FIOS service, did he not test your computer and show you the speeds?  The first thing my guy did, after we changed the RWIN and MTU, was to goto infospeed.verizon.net/fttp and run the speedtest, to show I was getting 15 MBits.  I even went to this site and a couple others just to make sure (since obviously the verizon site would be as perfect a connection between you and a test site as there could be).  But anyways, my question is, were you ever with the tech and shown the 15MBit speed?  If not, you may have a actual hardware type problem, not on your end.  Maybe between you and the CO, or maybe when he connected the fiber from the line to the ONT, it was even minutely dirty, etc.  Just a thought.  Like Ronnie said, I would go back to a configuration where it is ONT --> DLink router --> your computer.  Have nothing else plugged in.  Then set all the RWIN, etc settings back to what I described earlier (as that is what the verizon tech had written in his notes to give to all customers), and then run some speed tests.  Try this site, infospeed.verizon.net/fttp and maybe this one as well: http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/  After all that, if you don't get speeds at or near 15MBits, call them.  From my experience they are very prompt at helping.  The FIOS support number you have gives you near instant contact with tech support without waiting on hold.  And, from other posts I read, they seem to send people out almost the next day after you report the problem.  So why not try that.  You may find that it is not related to your end, and you could save yourself the time and energy, not to mention frustration.  Good Luck, and let us know what happens.

SuperG03

[Ronnie1055]

Hey SuperG...

It is good to see you over at this site too... how are you liking your FIOS.  You gotta love it.... :headbang:

[hupp3l]

Seriously I dont know anymore. I think my router is just dumb but am not sure. I am getting pretty irretated. Can you guys with fios please send me your default settings for fios. Load it with cablenut and then save it and send it. I will REALLY appreciate it. No offence VanBuren I think your stuff works I just want to start over. Thanx

[Ronnie1055]

hupp3l...

OK... here is my suggestion.  Do a google search for the program WinsockXPFix and run that... I am told that doing the repair option when  you right click on your network adapter does the same thing.

Remove the cablenut software.... reboot

Get TCPOptimizer...

Your TCP Receive Window 307284 and then on the right yes, no, yes options and in the TCP 1323 option box.. . put a check in the windows scaling box... be sure to set your Max MTU to 1492. 

That is what I am running... and get ~15550 down and ~1.78 up.  I have gotten as high as 15870 down and 1.8 up.  Once you get this range then you can start tweaking up from there.

This is how I am set up and it works for me... BTW..  I am running the DI-624 with the latest firmware.  Good luck!!!

I sincerely know how frustrating this can be.

Regards,

Ronnie

[hupp3l]

I am getting pretty frustrated. I cant understand how my router can limit my speed by so much. Just to make it clear, I am using a Linksys Wrt54G router with the latest firmware. I dont know why but my speed has just gone down. Ronnie1055 if I can ask you a big favour. Can you please get cablenut and retrieve your current registry values. Then please send them for me. I may goto best buy and buy a new wireless router. Any suggestions? then if my speed is still slow im gonna take it back. Then it must be either settings or fios. I doubt it to be fios.

<b>When testing at miranda I get this messages that kinda concern me.

Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

The network based flow control limits the throughput to 8.56 Mbps</b>

[KingCobra]

While many of us understand your desire to use some equipment you have, your most prudent course of action for resolution is to first use the Verizon supplied hardware and establish a baseline config.