steyr223 Posted May 30, 2005 CID Share Posted May 30, 2005 dropped keyboard wireless logitech; sysstem locks up: reboot: no usb at login screen(xp pro sp1) reboot with ps2 kb: blue screen (to quick to read )auto reboot (loooop) unplug all usb(this has happend before) saitek x45 joystick & flightstick combo(magic mouse,magic kb in hid) momo racing wheel and pedals (logitech) hp printer deskjet 3320 wireless mouse mx1000 laser (logitech ir tracker (edimensional) reboot(try restore )never in my 40 years have i seen this work but then i never asked could not restore( and yes turned off security stuff) i was however, able to boot to window :finally in the past i would make a few adjustments and go through the whole process again this time when i went to device manager to uninstall or see what the conflict was i found some thing new the mouse and keyboard were both marked something like could not load drivers due to all or part of device still in memory i figure the usb needs some type of termination? i guess my question is why does this happen? and how to prevent in future(even when i drop the keyboard) and last, is there an easier way to unload the memory last time i dropped a speaker on the power strip switch 4 days later $1200 later and a new front window in the living room now dfi ut nf3250GB, amd3200, 1 GB mem(2 512) 36GB 10,000 sata, 160GB sata, 300GB ide, nvidia agp 256mb fx 5700ve Catalina sound Sony DVD r/w, liteon CD r/w, Toshiba DVD r/w Sony flatscreen these are not even worth mentioning other than to bag on the product beware (edimentional stereoscopic glasses,ir tracker, voice buddy force feed back headphones) I DO KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT COMPUTERS I'm a cert collector(at least i was the new laws need to verify my experience in the Field) I"M A FRICKIN PLUMBER a+_network+_mcp_security+_ccna_ccnp so i at least know THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEE TIA [snip](really) edit: snipped email addy for member privacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted May 30, 2005 CID Share Posted May 30, 2005 Welcome top the forum, steyr223 Try removing the cordless mouse and keyboard from the device manager if you are trying to use ps2 Keyboard and Mouse then reboot. If you can get into safemode, scan for virus and spyware. Besides dropping the keyboard, and the front wodow issue, have you added or updated software or hardware recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted May 30, 2005 CID Share Posted May 30, 2005 Quote Hello steyr223.......Welcome Did you try to shutoff and unplug the PC and leave it sit for a few ? Sometimes even though you just shut off your system it has a standby voltage going through the USB port, so by unplugging it, it may clear some error it's getting. If that doesn't work then you might want to clear the CMOS (BIOS) by shutting the PC down, unplugging the power and remove the battery on the MB also leave the battery out and if you have your MB manual see if it has a clear CMOS jumper and follow the directions to do that, then put the jumper back, replace the battery and start it up, at that point I wouldn't have anything attached to USB ports, and see if it boots ok to windows, if so then go to device manager and remove or uninstall all pertaining to the USB starting with the root hub first, If it allows you to do that, restart the PC and let it boot to windows and it should find the USB and auto reinstall it. if evrything goes well, then shutdown and reconnect the USB keyboard. If it acts up again then the KB is most likely maldefunct. You will also want to go into BIOS and set optimal settings and or any custom setting you have made before, plus set the time/date and save. Hope that works.....Let us know, and we'll go from there. Good luck... If you unplug it, make sure to hold the power button for a coupla seconds to power down the mobo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyr223 Posted May 30, 2005 Author CID Share Posted May 30, 2005 I'mi'm confused as usual and i even wrote down 39 events in the last 3 hrs only i didn't keep order I'm tired and frustrated thank for responding did most all what u said computers been running pretty good since the last episode i now remember this was on my new system same thing some how i made it go away now i realize i put the kb logitech cordless and m1000 laser mouse not the one with the kb(if it makes a difference) back on as i was wondering why i was using the old ones they lasted a day maybe two just realized kb out of commision after first computer crushed usb connector that means the episode after all i was using was the mouse god please let it be that easy>>>>just in case since last message: all what i will say are the event not each time i rebooted autoupdate nagged xps2_I'm within hours of installing xp64 said no no no it did it anyways along with 51 other updates msvcr71.dll missing-reinstalled ntune managed to read blue screen internal_ voltage_error not sure on last word logs only 2 but there is more Event Type: Warning Event Source: Userenv Event Category: None Event ID: 1524 Date: 5/30/2005 Time: 6:49:50 AM User: NF3250GB3200steyr223 Computer: NF3250GB3200 Description: Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no longer in use. Event Type: Error Event Source: EventSystem Event Category: (50) Event ID: 4609 Date: 5/30/2005 Time: 6:41:24 AM User: N/A Computer: NF3250GB3200 Description: The COM+ Event System detected a bad return code during its internal processing. HRESULT was 8007043C from line 44 of d:nt_qxpcomcom1xsrceventstier1eventsystemobj.cpp. ????? thats not on my drive my d: is all games after a short look this is a error due to a service not loaded after xps2 update so it probaly doesn't relate ok I'm just blabbing 1 question when a usb problem occurs (say hid kb) u can see in device manager u fix by uninstalling the usb root hub(think thats what u wrote) not by uninstalling the kb under hid devices thanx [snip] edit: snipped email addy for member privacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyr223 Posted May 30, 2005 Author CID Share Posted May 30, 2005 funny how are own explanation's sound confusing or not even right to ourselves i understood every word spoken like a true pro science my last post had mouse and kb disconnected had logitech momo and saitek pugged in blue screen 4 times disconnected both above devices boot to xp no problem i think were getting there guys I'm gonna try each one individually i believe its a bad port not a device I'll let u know thanks steyr223@ snip snip.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyr223 Posted May 31, 2005 Author CID Share Posted May 31, 2005 thanks to all just having some one to talk with might have saved me a newfront window + I'm so used to problem solving everybody Else's problems and my own very promptly and i forget to ask for help for myself had momo wheel in!! here we go (i need to explain) I've been in the process of designing a full blown game chair for about 12 years I'm on the third one easyest way to describe : the decorum is like the weight sets in the gyms with the 3 or 4 inch square metal chair: car or maybe van(has captins arms)on tracks under tracks is wood plank that extends to ether side for joy and flight stick(will replace soon with metal) kb holder to left swivels mouse to right swivels rear speakers mounted on 1 inch square metal coming from under wood plank at each corner so the can swivel about 100 degrees horizontal(the chair sits back at 20 degree angle)and the 3 foot riser lets them swivel at (well,all the way to the floor) front speakers only mounted to monitor(still working on it base(midland surround sound ) is in another computer Case to right front, computer to left front, pedals in between( all raised off floor about 5 inches attached to main trunk between chair and monitor desk etc i do have a point the main trunk about 10 inches of ground tee's up about 2 1/12feet from chair the riser is about 18" i attached another riser about 10'' above put a swivel at the top to allow a 1 inch square bar(steering column) to slide though at about 45 degree angle here comes the point at the top (closest to me in chair) i have a desk the size of a skate board with the momo wheel attached to front and monitor (flat screen i drilled holes through for mounting) to the back ( they almost touch now when i get up i tilt the whole bar (desk monitor wheel) up about 30 to 40 degrees I'm not a designer and i have mounted the wiring many different ways need less to say (my point) i may be pinching wires causing intermittently problems to continue ::: had only momo in started game jerked on the wheel and the sound froze on one note repetitively froze machine got here back up and running jerked yanked kicked and slammed wheel to no avail it worked flawlessly (???Catalina sound card---some of my hardest problems came from audio conflicts) played in many games worked fine tried saitek kind a tricky if u do your own profiles(flight stick banded continuously emulating a key over and over again) i understand neutral settings it started messing up so i played with tuggin a wire here and there thought i had the problem solved realized xpsp2 update fryd a lot of drivers anyways this will be my last reply till i do xp64 and ohm out all my wiring sorry guys it's like a tornado in my head, just to many possibility's never had a problem i couldn't logically, step by step, or methodically figure out now I'm even thinking about my terabyte size library(news groups) this did all start on my old system immediately after loading brother of arms (i did not load on this computer and the other 10000 people didn't say much feel free to reply tho it is appreciated thanks ssteyr223 at php will shoot me with his sig if i put my email here dot com If teddy bears were outlawed then only outlaws would have teddy bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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