ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 Long story short I lost my cable internet due to income problems and now I'm stuck on a 33.6k modem using AOL *yuck*. I'm using Win98... I would due some of the tests on this board,but I do not have enough hard drive space to install Java. But basically the test at this site says 2kb/sec. I know my settings at this time was optimised for cable and not dial up. Does the tweak in this forum include dial up settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 hey ArcticWolf you can try these steps first http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-2097.0 i did a 56k tweakfile for cablenut, try it I havent tested it, if it dosent help PM the member "cholla" i know he has a good setup for 56k VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 This took me some time,but hopefully this will help 1)Win98se 2)AOL Canada ummm 56k ... but I'm using a 33.6k modem, so I connect at 33.6k 3)Had cablenut settings for cable modem but just changed over to the 56k setting for Win98 from cablenut. Had to use the isdn result cause there is no 56k option. I put 5kb/sec...not sure what a 56k modem is supose to get ...I believe it is 7 or 8kb/sec download. http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:5162c35?service=isdn&speed=5kb&os=win98SE&via=normal 4):::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 27 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 3 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 03:55:41 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB download in 341.33 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 1.06 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-MLNVHQI56 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 26 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server1) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 03:58:14 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 10.32 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-Q415TVFYI http://nitro.ucsc.edu/ - I can't so this test due to not having the right javascript,maybe you can give me an other site. Current date is Thu 08-11-2005 Current time is 4:01:27.03a Windows 98 [Version 4.10.2222] Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=332ms TTL=44 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=265ms TTL=44 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=44 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=44 Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 195ms, Maximum = 332ms, Average = 250ms Ping Complete. Tracing route to testmy.net [67.18.179.85] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 316 ms 161 ms 148 ms ipt-dtcf05.dial.aol.com [205.188.70.165] 2 159 ms 153 ms 151 ms iptfarmf-dr5-sw0.conc.aol.com [205.188.120.190] 3 156 ms 151 ms 146 ms wc2-dtc-ae5.net.aol.com [172.18.30.92] 4 292 ms 149 ms 149 ms dar2-dtc-GE1-1-0.net.aol.com [172.18.52.73] 5 163 ms 163 ms 146 ms pop1-vie-P4-0.atdn.net [66.185.141.113] 6 150 ms 154 ms 151 ms Level3.atdn.net [66.185.139.86] 7 154 ms 250 ms 146 ms ae-2-52.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.121.33] 8 212 ms 185 ms 275 ms ae-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.1.109] 9 187 ms 179 ms 581 ms ge-1-1-53.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.70] 10 260 ms 194 ms 300 ms 4.78.220.10 11 289 ms 191 ms 188 ms dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.29] 12 257 ms 188 ms 187 ms dist-vlan41.dsr2-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.83] 13 193 ms 186 ms 187 ms gig1-0-1.tp-car9-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.116.69] 14 199 ms 190 ms 352 ms testmy.net [67.18.179.85] Trace complete. 5)Done - although it will help with dial up,lol 6)Done 7)Done 8)Done 9)Done and all clean 10)Don't have ZA 11)I'll have to download one 12)AVG says no viruses 13)Done 14)Done 15)Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 Hmmm at testmy.net I get only 3kb upload...but at 2 other sites,my upload is much higher http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedchart.asp?id=13acc690105a4b24f9413acc690 But my download is still slow even for a 33.6k modem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 try this cablenut file, just unzip it and click on it, then click save to registry and reboot VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well it's a little better :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 29 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 4 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:11:08 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 256 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 1.14 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-5B8SARPYL :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 25 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:14:15 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 9.92 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-CIHDJR6BX I'm just curious what is an average speed at 33.6k modem is supose to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well it's a little better :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 29 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 4 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:11:08 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 256 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 1.14 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-5B8SARPYL :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 25 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:14:15 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 9.92 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-CIHDJR6BX I'm just curious what is an average speed at 33.6k modem is supose to get? oh my bad i missed the part where you said your using a 33.6 k modem i dont think you will go any faster then this on that modem on this score 29 Kbps you need to add TCP overhead thats around 10% so your real speed is 29 x 1.1 = 31.9 Kbps the reason you sometimes score more eg on that adslguide can be that test is not 100% accurate like i said, you can PM "cholla" and see if he can bring up speed any more, but i daubt it will go any faster VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 lol, that's alright Van, I will give "cholla" a PM and see what he has to say. Thanks for all your help. Ummm how do you PM someone here?,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 lol, that's alright Van, I will give "cholla" a PM and see what he has to say. Thanks for all your help. Ummm how do you PM someone here?,lol no problem, good luck click here http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1010 VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 Artic Wolf I will be glad to help if I can.I haven't had a 33.6K modem only a 56k so I will give you tweaks that apply to a 56k.First as soon as you can you need to get a 56k if you are going to use dial-up.I wll try to adjust where possible for the 33.6K.Windows 98 can use most if not all of the settings For ME too.This will keep you busy to start with. Download & install Cablenut;use the ccs file for your OS & connection. I make these adjustments to Cablenut for a custom dial-up file if it doesn't make yours work better you can use the ones that it puts in automatically.On the RWIN use the one of the settings suggested by TCPIP analyzer for RWIN based on MSS & enable windows scaling.On my Cablenut this is Tcp1323Opts set to 1. Check your system at https://www.speedguide.net/ . Select the TCPIP analyzer. If it shows your MTU other than 1500 or your MSS other than 1460 you need to change it to these. I will add this some dial-up's work better with MTU = 576 MSS = 536 so you can try these too if the larger settings slow you down. You can't make these with Cablenut .You need to make them in the registry as in the link at the bottom. In My Computer go to dial-up networking R.click on your connection select properties. GeneralConfigure on the dial-up modem you are usingmaximum speed to 115200.connectionport settingsset your FIFO Buffers to maximum.advanced error control should be checked,compressed data should be checked,use flow control should be checked, Then it depends on the dial-up modem you have Check hardware for an external dial-up modem or an internal with on board controller,Check software for an internal modem that uses the CPU for its controller(this is the majority of internal modems also called winmodems.) For extra settings try W3;S10=50;S25=100 these depend on your specific modem but these work for several. W3 makes the modem report DCE speed instead of DTE speed.S10=50 is a hangup delay that helps keep you connected.Try these last sometimes the ISP won't connect with the extra settings & you have to take them out. Back to the General tab if the phone number you use for dial-up is in the same area code as you are uncheck the use area code box.In the networking tab under advanced options check enable software compression & under allowed network protocols uncheck everything but TCP|IP unless your dial-up uses one of the others to connect. . Open your registry (start - run - type regedit) and change the following registry entries: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesClassNet000X (where X is a number between 1 and 9)there is a value named SLOWNET, change it from 01 to 00. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesVxDCOMBUFF it has a value called Start, change its value from 00 to 01. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesVxDVCACHE, it has a value named Start, change it from 00 to 01. The last 2 are controversial whether the help or not they usually don't hurt performance & sometimes help. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetContro lPriorityControl (if PriorityControl is not there, make the value) - on the right hand side right click and select new DWORD value, name it IrqXPriority (X = Irq assigned to your modem), then right click it and select modify and give it a decimal value of 1. 9. Open your sys.ini file (start - run -sysedit - ME type system.ini) close the boxes until you are at the one with the title C:WINDOWSSYSTEM.INI, under [386enh] add the line ComXXIrqXXbuffer=4096, XX=Com port your modem is on and Irq assigned to your modem, it should look like Com03Irq07buffer=4096. Then select file - save and reboot to take effect. I use 115200 but try the 4096 first. You can check these 2 links they are for 98 or ME you may need the patch in one of them to enable windows scaling. The one below is to give you higher connection settings for your modem.With a 33.6 you may not be able to use over 57600 & have a stable connection Try 115200 next I use 230400 but I have a 56K. https://testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=1772.0 This is for the registry tweaks most are for MTU settings.There are 2 different MTU settings above you need to use the one that works best for your connection.(576 or 1500) & the MSS that goes with it. https://testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=1633.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2005 CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 I posted twice to seperate this.I need to know what com port your modem uses & if its external or internal.You need to update the driver for your modem if possible but you may already have the newest driver for your 33.6K. Your distance from the telco also make a major difference in possible speed.You are already close to the max a 33.5K is supposed to do so the tweaks may not help .I would like to see if they will get you over the 33.6K. After I get the information above we may change the com port speed in WIN.INI & hardware manager if it is an external modem. I wiil put a screen shot of my cablenut settings you may have to click on the link at the bottom of the Screen shot.DL & open it to veiw it larger so you can read it http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5673.0;attach=2503 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 12, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 12, 2005 I posted twice to seperate this.I need to know what com port your modem uses & if its external or internal.You need to update the driver for your modem if possible but you may already have the newest driver for your 33.6K. Your distance from the telco also make a major difference in possible speed.You are already close to the max a 33.5K is supposed to do so the tweaks may not help .I would like to see if they will get you over the 33.6K. After I get the information above we may change the com port speed in WIN.INI & hardware manager if it is an external modem. I wiil put a screen shot of my cablenut settings you may have to click on the link at the bottom of the Screen shot.DL & open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 13, 2005 CID Share Posted August 13, 2005 Hey Artic Wolf When you tried my settings was this with the registry settings also?If you only did the Cablenut settings it wouldnt work very well.Which MTU worked best for you 576 or 1500? On the test at Broadband reports did it show window scaling enabled? You can try this in your win.ini under [ports] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 13, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 13, 2005 Hey Artic Wolf When you tried my settings was this with the registry settings also?If you only did the Cablenut settings it wouldnt work very well.Which MTU worked best for you 576 or 1500? On the test at Broadband reports did it show window scaling enabled? You can try this in your win.ini under [ports] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 13, 2005 CID Share Posted August 13, 2005 ArcticWolf Is the change being made in the registry from 1500 to 1400?Or do you use some software that changes the MTU?In cablenut do you have the PMTU discovery set to 0 & size/small /medium/large blank? It could be your ISP limiting to 1400. I can't use the ping function because my ISP blocks ping.But there is a methode for setting the correct MTU for your OS using MSDOS &ping.I used this methode at my old ISP that allowed ping.I did find it sometimes varried I don't know why. At the prompt in MSDOS type ping your ISP -f -l your MTU IT will look like this ping aol.com -f -l 1500 Keep going lower with the MTU until the packets no longer fragment.The l is a small L not a capitol i. You can use any number like 1472 or 576 the highest it can go without fragmenting is your max MTU. The aol.com I used is assuming that is correct for aol if you know the address of your ISP is different use that one.Or the numerical address. Once you have found it use that for your MTU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticWolf Posted August 15, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 ArcticWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 15, 2005 CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 try this aswell http://j79zlr.com/cablenutME98.php VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 15, 2005 CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 VanBuren : I tried the 1372 in the calculator it showed the receive window settings as 0(zero) which can't be correct.Edit I did this with Enter MTU on the drop down & I didn't put anything in the DL or latency boxes.When I did it with the 56K drop down it did give RWIN settings. ArcticWolf : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 15, 2005 CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 VanBuren : I tried the 1372 in the calculator it showed the receive window settings as 0(zero) which can't be correct. it works for me VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 15, 2005 CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 VanBuren: edited in my post above but you added settings in the download & latency boxes & I didn't.Artic Wolf would be 33.6K on the DL & I don't know what his latency would be.Anyway I sure don't use RWIN that small for my 56K.The reason I don't is pages load faster with a larger RWIN at least on my OS & connection.I think this might be because the internet is now setup best for broadband & so are the pages being sent.The larger RWIN seems to work better for loading pages now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted August 15, 2005 CID Share Posted August 15, 2005 Well it's a little better :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 29 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 4 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:11:08 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 256 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 1.14 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-5B8SARPYL :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 25 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Upload Speed is:: 3 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Thu Aug 11 05:14:15 EDT 2005 Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 341.33 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 9.92 % of your hosts average (aol.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-CIHDJR6BX I'm just curious what is an average speed at 33.6k modem is supose to get? this was what he got on the tweakfile i made, like i said before, i dont think it will go faster then this on that 33.6 modem. VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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