Indestructable Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 I'm lookin to upgrade my media center to make it a rocketsled..lol Is this pretty damn good? I mean, like what kind of performance would I get out of it? http://www.crucial.com/ballistix/store/MPartspecs.Asp?mtbpoid=21CE3749A5CA7304&WSMD=Media+Center+m1170n&WSPN=CT463833 any better deals would kick @$$ guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 more ram can't hurt. do you have paired modules installed now? would slightly less name brand ram be cheaper? remember, for the dual channel to work the sticks need only be of same specs. not even neccessarily same mfr, but that helps to be sure to get same specs. that matching modules is pretty much all hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted October 24, 2005 Author CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 well, how do people get like 4 gb ram in their pc then? by using single sticks, right? I'm thinking like 2560 mb ram in the end, to do video editing, and what have you...my pc is stock @ the moment...It's got 2 256 sticks in it of Kingsley ram...wtf? Anyway, would this be a good buy? the ballistix memory lokos cool, and from the description, ti sis pretty much gamer memory, and I want gamer performance. I'm tired of crap computers. I want a tricked out machine, even if it is an HP...lol How much performance would I lose by using single sticks of 1 GIG? I want the best, so any other suggestion from yous guys would be muchos apprecciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorne Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 Sell your 2 sticks of 256 and use 2 1GB sticks of what you posted and run them dual channel. 2GB is easily enough for what you want it for. Check newegg and see if they have that same ram, they may have it a little cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 well, how do people get like 4 gb ram in their pc then? by using single sticks, right? I'm thinking like 2560 mb ram in the end, to do video editing, and what have you...my pc is stock @ the moment...It's got 2 256 sticks in it of Kingsley ram...wtf? 4x 1GB, although I've seen a test that showed that 4 GB gets you just 2.75 GB, and the rest goes to BIOS, plus you're forced to use 2T, which KILLS AMD performance. How much performance would I lose by using single sticks of 1 GIG? I want the best, so any other suggestion from yous guys would be muchos apprecciated. 2x 512MB > 1 x 1 GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 so get 2 of the same gig sticks and add them to your exisitng mem. good thing the current meme is 2x256, that means it is already dual channel capable. the optimum would be to get the gig sticks with the same timing as the 256 sticks, otherwise you need to check if you can set the bios for different settings on different mem banks. on the issue of gamer ram, um, . it's all hype. compare the numbers, get what you want need, don't go for anything sold as 1337 gamer shit unless you want the flashy design. the only /possible/ advantage to 'gamer ram' (wtf is that anyway? ram that sucks at running word?) is that it might be more stable, /possibly/ when overclocking due to a large flashy heatsink or pseudo-heatsink. although some of the pseudo heatsink cases i've seen on ram sticks seem to act more like insulators than heatsinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 so get 2 of the same gig sticks and add them to your exisitng mem. good thing the current meme is 2x256, that means it is already dual channel capable. the optimum would be to get the gig sticks with the same timing as the 256 sticks, otherwise you need to check if you can set the bios for different settings on different mem banks. 2x 1 Gig running the same settings as 2x 256? You're gonna need some very good sticks to pull that off. on the issue of gamer ram, um, . it's all hype. compare the numbers, get what you want need, don't go for anything sold as 1337 gamer shit unless you want the flashy design. the only /possible/ advantage to 'gamer ram' (wtf is that anyway? ram that sucks at running word?) is that it might be more stable, /possibly/ when overclocking due to a large flashy heatsink or pseudo-heatsink. although some of the pseudo heatsink cases i've seen on ram sticks seem to act more like insulators than heatsinks. What gamers want is Winbond UTT (previously labeled BH-5 or CH-5) or Samsung TCCD (or TCC5) ramchips. Those can be found on various sticks, and you'll need to do a bit of searching to find out which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 well, the 256 running same as the 1 gig would be optimum or a workaround to the board not supporting deviating settings on the banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorne Posted October 24, 2005 CID Share Posted October 24, 2005 2x 1 Gig running the same settings as 2x 256? You're gonna need some very good sticks to pull that off. Not sure i understand what you mean, the size of the stick in (MB) has no bearing on timings or speed. Is that what you were talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 25, 2005 CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 yeah. and finding a quarter gig and a gig stick that runs not just the same speed but the same timing might prove difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorne Posted October 25, 2005 CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ahh i understand what he was saying now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted October 25, 2005 Author CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 I'm slightly confused...so, what should I do? Is there something you guys would all agree on? lol...I'm just trying to get the BEST performance I can possibly squeeze out of my pc...how? It does support dual channel, it seems that crucial is saying that it will take pc 4000 though, and it's got pc 3200 in there now. Would that make it run better? What about something from TD? or Newegg, somethig by Ultra might do, if it still kicked 3 levels of a$$!! Thanks lots for all the help you guys have given! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 25, 2005 CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 well, if you have half a gig of 3200 in it now, lose that and add the 2 gigs of 4000. if the board supports it you can always stick the 512 in bank 3 and 4 at 3200. and pretty much any gig sticks that run at 4000 will do, just be sure to buy 2 of the same for the dual channel to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted October 25, 2005 CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 Not sure i understand what you mean, the size of the stick in (MB) has no bearing on timings or speed. Is that what you were talking about? Theoretically not, but 256 MB ram can run at 2-2-2-5 timings much easier than a stick of 1 gig can. I disagree with resopalrabotnick with adding the 512 back. That will do nothing but remove performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 25, 2005 CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 fine. then max it out and stick in 4 gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted October 25, 2005 Author CID Share Posted October 25, 2005 guys umm guys, I'm talking budget...like Ultra brand memory...woud that be good for performance? if not, what would be? is that corsair I posted a DIMM pair then, 2 sticks of 1 gig, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 26, 2005 CID Share Posted October 26, 2005 yeah, 2 1 gig sticks oughta be fine. just be sure you grab the fastest ram your machine can handle if you want to max out performance. brand don't matter, just don't mix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted October 27, 2005 Author CID Share Posted October 27, 2005 ok, cool, thanks all, I'll try best buy see what they got...lol...crucial is recommending pc 4000, is that ok? why did HP put in stock pc3200 then? sorry for all the ?'s, but I wanna get this right, ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted October 27, 2005 CID Share Posted October 27, 2005 Crucial is recommending PC4000 cuz they get more money from those. Unless you want to run faster than PC3200 (you'd have to OC for that), there's absolutely no reason to get any faster memory than PC3200 in your system. Intel systems may be the exception. Usually (unless you have really cheap ram) you can OC the PC3200 without a problem to faster speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted October 27, 2005 Author CID Share Posted October 27, 2005 Any ways of doing that you can tell me about?... ocing the ram sounds really hard.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted November 1, 2005 CID Share Posted November 1, 2005 Any ways of doing that you can tell me about?... ocing the ram sounds really hard.. You increase the 'FSB', which is the route from the CPU to the memory. This also bumps up the CPU speed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted November 3, 2005 Author CID Share Posted November 3, 2005 yeah, I don't wanna do that @ the moment, I will look into it though...just now learnig about PLL #'s and all ...from using a prog named CPUFSB actually: http://www.cpufsb.de/CPUFSB.HTM good program, if it was free.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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