Siryak

Theres my first post to her about EVDO......guess since I'm looking at the big picture and not posting any different because unity is a female? Had it been me that posted the exact same lingo about getting the Sprint deal, the post would have been attacked and flamed at just as most are. The pings look better than sat at the moment, but would honestly think they will increase during peak usage time.My point about the cost is the way the deal reads if she didn't buy the special router.....then she is paying 59/month for each line, this is what I wanted to clarify.....and if so then around 150-180 month would not be compred to Hughes home account lets compare it to a business plan or small office at least!

Gorman....its seems odd to me you cant justify $10/month considered an upgrade from the old 6000 to a newer 7000 or 7000s for better pings/ more consistent performance/double or better uploads speeds....but yet now EDVO is far superior regardless. When WB first come out a 2yr contract was " bad", "not good"...Hughes 15 months "terrible" ......now all of a sudden 2yr contract is not even a concern. 

Siryak...was it not you who posted about how when you first got WB how good it was (pings 550-675ms) and you gamed on it etc....now its no good junk (pings 1400-2200ms). Surprised your still using WB and not just plugged in the phone line? Interesting how it could possibly be different now from then 

The only reason why I still have it is because EVDO is not available yet, and also I think it might get better whenever WB-1 is online. Also the user that posted before with the high pings on EVDO was obviously in a bad spot otherwise the pings will be satellite easily. The fact of the matter is EVDO is and always will be better than satellite. I have seen much higher pings on Hughes and Wildblue than I will ever see on EVDO. Whenever you are browsing guess what...PINGS MATTER!!! Satellite always has and ALWAYS will be a dial-up alternative and NOTHING more.

To grandpa you are exactly right on signal fluctuations being the source of the speed fluctuations. I have read on the evdoforums multiple cases where people had speeds that were either consistently slow or fluctuated and was fixed by simply adding an antenna. I have also seen people getting a good 1.4mb in some cases. Also the upload on EVDO (rev a) stomps satellite. I have seen a user post as high as 900k.

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C:>ping testmy.net

Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=46

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=135ms TTL=46

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=46

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=156ms TTL=46

Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 122ms, Maximum = 156ms, Average = 135ms

Lets see your sat connection do that. It does not matter how fast it is as long as the latency is lower. Whenever you are browsing you pretty muchly never use all of that bandwidth anyway. Just a fraction of it. Plus EVDO is capable of maintaining a good 1mb+, which is more than enough for browsing. Then there is that crazy thing were you can do something else besides browse the web with your internet connection....

Edit: Also it is noteworthy that the cards can be taken wherever they want to. They are not tied to using them just at their house unlike a sat connection. The fact of the matter is EVDO is and always will beat satellite in pretty muchly every way including downloading large files, because you will get fapped and that EVDO connection will just keep on going.

Hey unity. If I were you I would hop on over to http://booster-antenna.com/ and look at their antennas. I have heard that the antenna will increase your signal and in turn increase the speed as well. I have seen people on the EVDO plans get faster speeds than what you are getting and it could be that your signal could be just a little bit stronger. But again the antennas aren't too expensive and if it doesn't help you could always send it back.

There are too many free and very good programs to waste money on Norton. Microsoft Windows Defender, Ad-aware, Spybot S&d, Spyware Blaster, and Edwido online scanner. 

Also save the Norton CD for summer,  they make great coasters. 

AVG is much lighter on resources than Avast. And does just as good a job.  I have had it saving my butt for almost 2 years now. flawlessly. 

I wouldn't say just as good a job. I have actually read several bad reviews on AVG. Here is an example of one. Actually Antivir faired better than both of them looks like. http://www.best-cell-phone-reviews.com/images/Sanyo-scp-8200.jpg

Ok unity now I see why lol.

Yep, but after $80 a month for inconsistent satellite and $50 for t-mobile that because of where my house is is only dial up speeds unless I go somewhere else, I don't mind paying the extra $50 a month for the reliability! Just hope I don't have to swallow my words later!

Steph

If you were going to get more than one if I were you I would just get 2. 1 to leave at home and one to use on the road and at home. Because with the router you can share the connection amongst the computers. Sprint does not mind if you do this in fact they sell one of the routers you can use. Just my 2 cents.

O and on the AV we just had a big discussion on this over at wildblue.cc. Basically while AVG is ok Avast is a much better AV. You can see on many AV benchmarks that Avast has a much better detection system than AVG plus it is plenty light on the resources. I have been using it for years and it has never once gave me a problem. I used to use AVG until I got a keylogger that it wouldn't clean. Installed Avast and it zapped it right away. It is free just like AVG, they just require a "free" registration.

Went to the Sprint store tonight! Got a card for each laptop and a usb modem for the boys' computer! My speeds are not perfect yet, but my husband's are better than mine... I wonder why this could be, we have the same exact laptops... could the fact that I am running Norton and he is running AVG have anything to do with the speed difference? We are setting up the boys' now, so hopefully theirs will work just fine and we will cancel Hughes within a month(payment just came out! Same with t-mobile lol). Hubby is HAPPY right now, so that's good! lol

Plus, with rebates, all three cards are free after I mail in the forms ands wait 8 weeks or so! Woohoo!!

Steph

Ouch!...Wont you haft to pay $60 a month for each card??? I think I would have went with a router lol.

So private, did they put you an a different bird than what you were on then? If so I definately don't want to switch. Mine has not ever been bad. 

From what I hear from the Hughesnet users is if it ain't broke don't fix it. Because whenever you switch you are always risking either an improvement and then there is that "other" result.

Isn't this peak time for Hughesnet though? I bet that will bounce back up to where it should be around midnight.

They did not make the pings like this by accident. They have said it themselves. They have "prioritized" http and put everything else on the bottom. Since "most users"(where have we heard that before) only use it for browsing and e-mail. Personally I think that is BS and they just did it so that they could fit more people on their already overcrowded "turd bird" as Murdoch would say.

From what I've heard, "high pings time" is a new feature. 

Yah that is what I have been hearing. There is a way to eliminate this feature, which if they do not fix it themselves I will be taking this route soon. The way you do it is you stop sending in this green substance that they request every month and then the feature magically disappears . Hughesnet is looking more and more friendly everyday.

Yes, I have a Static IP.

The Network Control Rule 14 is Block+Log. I didn't touch that option since installing the Firewall. 

I will scan tomorrow after i get home

Sounds like a random port scan to me. Happens all the time whenever I connect to my dial-up connection. As long as it is blocking them(which it is) then you will be fine. Are you using a router?

I get this a lot whenever it is blocking a program I don't want it too. Do you have a static IP? It could be a random port scan. Either way if it is in the log don't worry about it your firewall has done it's job.

Well if they have a protocol that is bogging down the system I could see why they would do that. The new HN700S is supposed to be more "efficient" is what I heard. How are the pings looking?

Hey Storm you wouldn't happen to have any info on what they are planning to do about the high pings time do you? Do you know if they are going to stay the way they are? As far as I have heard they are keeping yall in the dark on that, but I thought I might as well ask lol.

Yep this is the only test site I trust. All the others are inaccurate: speakeasy, BBR, Toast.net. None of them are as accurate as testmy. If you look in current status threads on satellite forums you will see that ALL of them are using testmy. Some of them throw in a speakeasy test or something, but 99% of the time there is a testmy in there with it.

Yah ok I will put this rules were they belong. Right back up their (insert curse word here).

Seriously they can say what they want. I am going to do what I want, which is ignore them. This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. They can not and will not tell me what I can say or watch and how I can say or watch it.

lawl I'd love trying to play online games with that...

You could download 5mb before my signal ever made it back to the dish and started transferring data ...O the beauty of 1800ms(average) latency.

It looks like a marginal EVDO signal to me. Look on this website ---> http://booster-antenna.com/ and try an external antenna. Every ounce of signal counts when it comes to a wireless internet connection. Think of it like your wireless network. The lower the signal, the lower the data rate. Also you could try posting in this forum ---> http://www.evdoforums.com/ dedicated for EVDO in particular. The people there are usually very helpful. That booster-antenna.com is actually that forums website also.

:::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..:::::::::::::::::

Download Connection is:: 25907 Kbps about 25.9 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB)

Download Speed is:: 3162 kB/s

Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2007/01/29 - 7:47pm

Bottom Line:: 452X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.32 sec

Tested from a 12160 kB file and took 3.845 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 489.2 % faster than the average for host (warpdriveonline.com)

D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-Z4VMQARL8

User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; {F58B0B17-22DF-0ED3-AF97-16B1CFB3ABCF}; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

I hate you lol ....Torchoring our poor souls. If you would have posted a ping test I would have broken down into tears.

It would be interesting to see what sort of ping rates one could get with that external amp and roof top antenna from a desktop. Maybe someone has done this or maybe its a new frontier.

I don't think you will see anything better than the 150ms average posted earlier. Maybe some day whenever they tweak it better. But I do know for a fact that more signal brings better download speeds.

O and I bet you would be surprised at how many games will play with that kind of pings. I am pretty sure that 2142 will play just fine with those pings. Also I bet you could play [glow=green,2,300][shadow=red,left]ANY[/shadow][/glow] Xbox Live game you wanted.

Jeffwalker...You could probably get those speeds up even higher with an external antenna. You can find one here ----> http://booster-antenna.com/

Surely WB will get the firmware fixed soon? Hughes is tweaking with firmware as well.

They don't talk like they are planning on it. What they are claiming is they prioritized http and put everything else on the bottom. Although for some odd reason my browsing got worse after the "upgrade"...Hmm...Also if they wanted to actually change what they had set up then could they not just revert back to the old firmware? Personally I think they are morons for messing with it in the first place. My service was as advertised 24/7 and ping times STAYED below 600 and rarely went into the low 600s. I mean if it aint broke don't fix it!!!!

Probably just a lot of traffic. 

The thing is though is Beam 40 has always been one of the very light loaded Beams. I have never seen a Peak Time slow down since October of 05. So I think it is probably more along the lines of Wildblue doing more tweaking than actual loading. Hopefully their tweaking will end with good performance and I can stay with what I got. But I am not going to hold my breath.

are the pings like that on all the WB beams?

Beam 40 is worse than normal for some reason tonight. But all of the beams are averaging at a minimum of 1100-1300ms. It has been like this since November. No matter what time of the day you will never average below 1100.