tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hi, I recently discovered I only get around 50% connectivity when going thru my NETGEAR wgrz641v5 wireless router. Going straight into the Cable Modem, I get above average connectivity. I'm not trying to tweak my settings anymore. I've tried everything... it's the router.. So.... I was thinking of buying a another cable modem, and installing two in the house. One downstairs for my computer, and one upstairs for the laptops. Has anyone ever tried this? thanks very much... Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 2 cable modems = 2 different isp accounts = 2 x the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 So you're saying the modems would conflict with eachother? Well.. there goes that idea. (could anyone explain in greater detail why having two cable modems would be an impossibility?) OK... Looks like I need to plunk down $$$ for a better router. Are there any wireless routers out there that won't slow down my speeds? thanks, toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REH Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 So you're saying the modems would conflict with eachother? Well.. there goes that idea. (could anyone explain in greater detail why having two cable modems would be an impossibility?) OK... Looks like I need to plunk down $$$ for a better router. Are there any wireless routers out there that won't slow down my speeds? thanks, toby Toby, it's not that the modems would interfere with eachother at all. They would work perfectly with eachother. It is your ISP that will not allow you to have two modems without charging you for both of them. In order to have two modems, you would need two broadband accounts. As for a wireless router... Do you have a good signal? If not, get a signal booster./try a different channel. I'm not an expert on routers... Someone else is really going to help you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepnklown Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 Which is more cost affective, paying for 2 accounts monthly or buying a new router once? You might have tried everything but I will provide methods just incase. Troubleshooting Wireless Networks Improving Wireless Range SP2 Problems Game Optimization Performance Issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 thanks for the replies everyone. As far as the signal is concerned, it seems to be quite good. Just to be clear - I am not on a wireless connection. I'm going through the router to the modem via ethernet cable. Unfortunately the router sucks the bandwidth right out of my connection in the process. I've heard a lot of contradictory info regarding which is the best wireless router for maintaining a good signal on the host computer. I don't see why It would be so hard to retain banwidth, the wireless connections are uses sparingly for browsing, e-mail etc.. So.... I don't see why my router is taking such an unusual amount of bandwidth. As far as switching channels, MTU, tweaking etc... I've tried everything - even disabling the wireless altogether. No difference from factory settings whatsoever. The only option left would be to call NETGEAR which means I'm totally SOL because tech support is useless these days. Any other ideas? There must be a way.... thanks again toby also... are you saying if i plug two modems in, technically it will work?? But it's a bit like stealing cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGOKURULES Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 Uhh NO! Believe me 90% of All Cable ISP have to authorize your cable modem for use on their network. Which is like activating a cell phone. Does not work unless you register it with a carrier... And for your speed issue. Have you tried messing around with the settings in ur router config? Sometimes it may have a personal firewall that needs to be configured to allow you to tweak ur bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hi, I recently discovered I only get around 50% connectivity when going thru my NETGEAR wgrz641v5 wireless router. Going straight into the Cable Modem, I get above average connectivity. I'm not trying to tweak my settings anymore. I've tried everything... it's the router.. So.... I was thinking of buying a another cable modem, and installing two in the house. One downstairs for my computer, and one upstairs for the laptops. Has anyone ever tried this? thanks very much... Toby If you are 100% sure.. and you have tried tweaking the connection.. the i would suggest replacing the router. Make sure that you dont have any funky QoS schemes set-up.. And if you plug directly to the modem do your speeds return to normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 yes. speeds are above average or normal when plugged into the modem directly. Nothing special going on with the router setup (just spent all night fudging with it before setting it back to default). I've tried everything... I do have a Linksys router which I left at my ex-girlfriend's apartment. If memory serves me correctly, that one had the same problem, anyway. well... considering I'm definitely not getting that back what's the general concensus on the boards here about wireless routers?? which ones tend to give the least problems? there has to be an answer... many thanks, Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 I would go with the linksys or dlink.. personally my WRT54g is a lot more stable than my DI-524, I think there is something wrong with it anyways .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 thanks swimmer, we should all compile a list of wireless routers: the good, the bad, and the ugly. this topic seems to come up so often it would be great if there was some kind of guide. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 we kinda have it.. http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-1127 just located in a wired place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 i'll take a peek thanks again swim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 I was told that your isp sends a connection through your whole house. Now they check for your router. and then they configure it to your modem and they set it so that it sends a connection ONLY through that initial modem that was on when they set it up. I was also told that comcast will let you add another router for an extra 10 a month but im not too sure on that hope that was helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 27, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 thanks Ryan, i wonder if adelphia offers anything similar.... I just got off tech support and they are useless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 you can get routers with dual wan ports.. http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FVS124G.php you could load balance the two lines.. i am sure if you wanted to go a bit more expensive you could aggregate them into one super pipe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 I was told by dlewis that adelphia does not offer that anymore because people were bridging the modems and getting double the speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lan_darklord Posted February 27, 2006 CID Share Posted February 27, 2006 What difference on the bridging would it make. You pay for the extra cable modem activation extra account ect. If you are paying for the speed there should be no control on how you are using it within your home (unless we are talking running a server in your home in which case check your ISP's Terms & Conditions). The idea isnt hard, and infact is relatively easy to do. Might wanna check your router and such first I agree bout the two WAN ports idea. Would be easiest. http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=5354756&SourceID=k40132 This router here has Dual WAN ports and is very configurable. Even has a wireless solution built in for those laptops. Just an idea though dont know what you are planning on spending ect. The router would work for 1 connection as well however and allow the laptops to be wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted February 28, 2006 CID Share Posted February 28, 2006 No he told me that they used to have it free. But then they realized bridging would double the speed ... that was adelphia. comcast had it to pay. but then they soon removed that.. think about it DOUBLE THE SPEED. for a measly 10$? that would cause me to revoke that option also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 28, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 28, 2006 Thanks for the replies everyone... I really appreciate it. I think Swimmers idea about having dual WAN sounds like the most economical solution to my problem. However, the netgear setup seems very pricey... The idea isn't hard, and infact is relatively easy to do. Might wanna check your router and such first I agree bout the two WAN ports idea. Would be easiest. http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=5354756&SourceID=k40132 This router here has Dual WAN ports and is very configurable. Even has a wireless solution built in for those laptops. Just an idea though dont know what you are planning on spending ect. The router would work for 1 connection as well however and allow the laptops to be wireless. Darklord... would this router allow me to regain my speeds that I obtain when I am plugged straight into the modem? If this router can allow me to achieve that using only on cable modem, and still provide Wi-fi access to others, then I am going to grab one of these puppies in the near future. I don't mind paying a little extra cash as long as I know the router is going to keep me (and the wireless users) happy. I've never heard of Hawking before, is this a reliable brand? If anyone else wants to chime in about the dual WAN w/ Wireless or knows of a good product please don't hesitate... Thanks again, Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobytobes Posted February 28, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 28, 2006 Ok, looks like the dual WAN needs two connections. Just learned something there. I really don't intend on shelling out the $$ for another broadband connection. I just need a reliable wi-fi router that will keep my hard-wired speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lan_darklord Posted February 28, 2006 CID Share Posted February 28, 2006 Toby you said the main concern for the laptops is browsing? Well if you just want 1 connection just get a good Wireless Router. Now remember that signal strength is gonna be different throughout your house and different appliances can cause interference. You should be able to get near if not your wired speeds with a good signal strength (if no other computer was using the connection). But as your signal strength falls expect your speed to fall a bit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anox195 Posted February 28, 2006 CID Share Posted February 28, 2006 Well, heres an option to keep your signal strength at 100%, install several access points throughtout your home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted March 1, 2006 CID Share Posted March 1, 2006 why not a ethernet hub ( 4 port ) and run pc's off it ??? pc and modem on 1st floor and laptop on 3rd floor thats what i did in old apt and worked for me with cox cable and only one modem and account just an idea not into wireless or routers http://jiwire.com/ all about wireless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i2d | ScruFFy | Posted March 1, 2006 CID Share Posted March 1, 2006 i have 3 connections in my house , used to have 4. Dual wan router aint nothing special , it was choosing random crap and was kinda cool mixing bellsouth's dl and comcasts upload. Still isnt that great, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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