destructionfever Posted June 12, 2006 CID Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hey all, I own the Westinghouse LVM-37W1 which has component hookups and a VGA hookup. I recently found out that with the update from xbox live that the VGA users can watch movies up converted to 720p...something that you can't do with the component HD cable. I was looking into buying a up converting DVD player before I heard this news. But now...here is my question...On the westinghouse HD monitor would the game look better or worse with a VGA HD cable versus a component HD cable. My TV can support up to 1920x1080p...will the VGA cable crank out higher resolutions than my component cable as well? Thanks for all of your help. I hope you all prefer the VGA because I would rather shell out 40 bucks for an up converting DVD player than spending 130-200 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organ_shifter Posted June 12, 2006 CID Share Posted June 12, 2006 A friend of mine has a 24" Sony Trinitron GDM-FW900 PC monitor and a Sony Bravia KDL-46S2000 television which supports 1080i (a VGA hook up is on the back as well). I must say that the Xbox360 looks fantastic on the TV through the use of the component cables, but due to the over-scan (zooming), certain parts of the interface/games were being cut out of view. Searching for a different alternative was a must... He and I went out to EB Games to purchase an Xbox 360 VGA HD/AV Cable. He picked it up used for $9.99 (obviously some one didn't know what they had and returned it). Leaving the store, we could hear two employees talking amongst themselves about the purchase, "That guy just got a steal. That was the only used VGA cable in the store, and I'm surprised someone brought it back." A decision was made to run the Xbox360 through his GDM-FW900, and it turned out to be a great move. GRAW was the game of choice, and it blew us away on the monitor. Everything was visible and the detail was unbelievable. It produced a sharper display than the component cables on the KDL-46S2000, but the maximum resolution we could select was 1360x768. Unfortunately, at that time, the VGA cable could not unlock 1920x1080 (1080p) or anything close to it on the monitor or TV, but it looked awesome. Maybe it can now though. Basically, before the recent updates, the Xbox 360 VGA HD/AV Cable would not be able to crank out higher resolutions than your component connection in terms of display size. However, if the new features will now support the higher resolutions through VGA, that's the best way to go IMO. The detail is unmatched. It's rumored that when the Xbox 360 outputs 1080i using the HD component cable, it only does the old 540p-upconvert-to-1080i trick as opposed to true 1080i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructionfever Posted June 12, 2006 Author CID Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thanks for the info shifter. Anyone else out there with an opinion on this cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructionfever Posted August 3, 2006 Author CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Okay, I recently got a Psyclone HDTV and Monitor VGA Cable for Xbox 360. I was going to originally get the microsoft VGA cable. Well, it's been a few weeks and now I'm looking at the description of my psyclone cable at bestbuy.com and it doesn't support 1080i. When I looked at Microsoft's VGA it certainly does support up to 1080i. With some games the psyclone cable looks awesome and with others the colors seem a bit washed out and the picture not as crisp. The psyclone does support 720p. Should I stick with it or buy the 360 VGA cable? As always I appreciate everyones advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 if it says the cable wont do 1080i but the microsoft one will then get the microsoft one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostmaster Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Will games really look better in 1080i? Maybe the slower action games, but I thought FPS games would look smoother in 720p. Another question. Even running at 1080i, does the TV still scale it back to 720p? (assuming the native res is 1366 X 768) Im still new to the HD so im curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Will games really look better in 1080i? Maybe the slower action games, but I thought FPS games would look smoother in 720p. Another question. Even running at 1080i, does the TV still scale it back to 720p? (assuming the native res is 1366 X 768) Im still new to the HD so im curious. yes games will look better in 1080i. it will only scale it back to 720p if the TV does not support 1080i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV0LUTI0NIZED Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think 720p is a higher resolution than 1080i, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think 720p is a higher resolution than 1080i, isn't it? no its not 720p is 1280x720 1080i or 1080p is 1920x1080 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostmaster Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Does the VGA on 360 look better than component? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV0LUTI0NIZED Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Duh... What I meant is that 720p looks smoother and sharper than 1080i. But yeah I also have a question does getting different HD cables for the xbox 360 make a difference than the stock microsoft HD cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Duh... What I meant is that 720p looks smoother and sharper than 1080i. But yeah I also have a question does getting different HD cables for the xbox 360 make a difference than the stock microsoft HD cable? The reason 720p looks smoother to you is because its progressive, 1080i is interlaced, but 1080i will be faster then 720p because it takes half the time to generate 1 frame. getting differnet cables can make a difference if they are better cables, (ie. Thicker) But the microsoft ones are actually pertty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted 2 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 xbox cant do 1080 I or P cause its max resolution is 1366x 768 i believe or 1280 X 1024 i have to check later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 xbox cant do 1080 I or P cause its max resolution is 1366x 768 i believe or 1280 X 1024 i have to check later no the xbox 360 can do 1080i it cant do 1080p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted 2 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 i just threw that up there cause i didnt feel like checking into it now cause i am in pain with 2 teeth pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 i just threw that up there cause i didnt feel like checking into it now cause i am in pain with 2 teeth pulled out. ouch. that sucks. I actually had to look it up myself cuz i wasent sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted 2 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 i was gonna look in the 360 menu and i am pretty sure its 1366 X 768 widescreen and 1280 X 1024 standard max resolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV0LUTI0NIZED Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 The resolution of mine is 1280 x 720. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted 2 Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 i was close the max is 1280 x 1024 and 1360 x 768 for widescreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organ_shifter Posted August 3, 2006 CID Share Posted August 3, 2006 Read the review at the following link. http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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