newbie - direcway upload problems

[kcity04]

I've been using direcway satellite (dw6000) for about 1 year now. My upload speeds over the last week or so have fallen way down. Originally, I was getting in the 100Kbps uploads, which I could certainly live with, but now I'm at 6Kbps for uploads. Download speed is still "acceptible". I'm in a rural location and won't be getting dsl or cable this decade.

I first noticed the problem when using the DW "satellite speed test". The upload portion of the test just didn't run. I called support and they were not much help. In fact, they directed me to testmy.net to try the upload test there rather than address their problem. When the testmy.net stats showed the slow upload speed, DW support fell back to plan B. "Its probably weather conditions in your area.", or, "Thats really what you should expect"!!

Anybody have any insight into why the upload speeds at DW would have dropped recently?

Here is my last test

.. Upload Stats ..

Connection is 6 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 386 KB)

Upload Speed is 1 KB/s

Tested From http//www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line 0 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 1024 second(s)

Validation Link http//testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=L6EMIH1CR

.. Download Stats ..

Connection is 720 Kbps about 0.7 Mbps (tested with 386 KB)

Download Speed is 88 KB/s

Tested From http//www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line 13 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 11.64 second(s)

Validation Link http//testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=Y1EP1WJQX

KC.

[xs1]

wait wait,... you were gettin 100 upload with satellite ? ...wow thats the first iv heard..

[kcity04]

Here are the results from the DW "satellite speed test" on 10/30/04;

Here are some of the details on my system

satmex05, longitude 117 West, 1130MHz, Signal Strength 86 (0-100)

I ran the speed test and got these results

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** Speed 610(down)/170(up) kbps **

(At least 18 times faster than a 33 kbps modem)

[Guest wmmc]

Welcome to testmy.net, I know nothing about the DW6000.

But, are you using sun java ?

[kcity04]

Java Plug-in 1.4.2_01 for Netscape Navigator

[Guest wmmc]

OK, you do use sun java, like a lot of java based test sites they will not give you an accurate upload test result using sun java, their is one site that you can use sun java for accurate results but you have to be a member(with tool points) is http://www.dslreports.com/stest at Net@ccess.

Mydirecway speed test is worthless if you use sun java, they want the users believe the speed they getting are amazing and its false if you see 100 + kbps, mydirecway isn't all that good anyway.

For indepth information about the DW6000 see this.

[kcity04]

so you are saying 6Kbps upload on this connection is to be expected?

[justinlay]

Ive been running with Dircway for 2 years . im still on the old school 4000 recivers. But dont worry i get a very slow upload to i get around 5-8kbps. and download

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 2052 Kbps about 2.1 Mbps (tested with 579 KB)

Download Speed is:: 250 KB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line:: 37 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 4.1 second(s)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=5QPTKBEGX

Sat G4R longitude 99, 1250 i think. and 72 signal strength that is max i get.

i used to be on on satmex5 when i moved i couldnt get it to commision. so i went to G4R.

[Guest wmmc]

so you are saying 6Kbps upload on this connection is to be expected?

Not necessarily, if you went with a .98 meter or larger dish then you could get what they call enhanced uploads(from 100 to 256 kbps or so), but at a real high price, you most likely have the .74 meter dish, like me, its shape is oval, the .98 meter or larger are round.

Photo of mine http://www.apet.net/satphotos/wolfpac.htm

Or up to 500 with below, not really a consumer product though.

[Aubrey]

Here's my upload...this is about as good as it gets for me. DW 4000...:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is: 46 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 386 KB)

Upload Speed is: 6 KB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line: 1 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 170.67 second(s)

Validation Link :: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=UPNB2PRXD

[Guest wmmc]

Too Aubrey, thats more less typical for me, sometimes a little better between midnight to 6 am, on ocassion during the day, usually see between 30 to 80( around 80 midnight to 6 am or so).

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is: 52 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 KB)

Upload Speed is: 6 KB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line: 1 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 170.67 second(s)

Validation Link :: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=GKASVS3AL

[ccr1958]

that is about the norm for me during daytime m-f also...

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::

Connection is: 48 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 579 KB)

Upload Speed is: 6 KB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line: 1 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 170.67 second(s)

Validation Link :: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=IEVJMWUB0

[xs1]

damn man.. with upload speeds like that id stay with dialup lol. I mean the download is nice but i unno if its worth the prices they charge around here.

Feature Specifics

Monthly Service* $69.95

Equipment* $749.95

Standard Installation/Activation Fee $249.95

Total Standard UpFront $999.90

Term Commitment (contract) 12 months

Early Termination Penalty $399.99

Adaptor and Installation (to receive Satellite Internet and DirecTV video on same dish)* $100.00

Extra Mailboxes $4.95 per mailbox

[Guest wmmc]

.s1 the satellite uploads should help with page loads, I once had dialup(for about a month while awaiting to get satellite back) it took forever to load images with dialup, with satellite that is much better then dialup, when it works.

Satellite blows away dialup in speeds, as said when it works, I have no trouble, its working great on this end, I am trying to help as best as I can here or anywhere else for that matter who may need it.

[xs1]

lol well im not currently on dialup.. had it for namy'a'year but im just saying.. gah.. 6 uplaod is.. crazy. ill never leave cable lol

[Guest wmmc]

Out here there is 2 options (dialup, satellite), unless if I was a billionaire I could get a T1.

Not everyone is capable of CABLE, DSL or WISP, I live 12 miles from town, there is a CO 26,400 feet from me but it has no DSL capabilities, the billionaire comment comes to mind here as well.

I am relative happy with satellite, of course if there was alternatives I'd get it in a heart beat.

[justinlay]

i feel your pain wmmc. i live 20 miles west from fortworth there aint nothiing out here but dial-up satellite, or t-1. I am happy with satelittle. i just wish the upload was better.

[Guest wmmc]

... i just wish the upload was better.

I agree.

[The Reverend]

Concerning your "mystery" slow speed, if you are using a DW6000 modem, SOMETIMES they can still connect to the Internet (but terribly slow like a 56k or less), and DirecWay has no clue. What happens to the DW6000 is that it is very sensitive to power 'fluxes', and if enough power fluxes occur over a certain amount of milliseconds (even if you have surge protection ...or even with a battery-supplied power backup that "holds you steady" ...it's not sensitive enough for some reason), there is the outside chance it will mess up the functioning of logic circuitry inside the danged thing. This has happened to me twice in one month.

Try unplugging the thing for no less than 10 minutes, then fire 'er up again and see if that doesn't cure your problem. Works for me, I pray it does you as well!

Cheers!

The Reverend

[kcity04]

I'd like to thank everyone who participated in this thread.

I have the answer i needed and additional information more than i had expected. I will have to stick with satellite for the foreseable future unless i move back to town (austin, tx). Then i could consider cable or dsl.

maybe there is BPL in my future.

Thanks again.

Just a note it was the DW support personnel who directed me to testmy.net to test my upload speed, so i guess we can't say they were completely clueless.

[justinlay]

Thats how i found this site. DW sent me here to do a download test.

[The Reverend]

Here's one of the better DWay connection speeds, but I had to sell my soul to the devil to get it. ($1,000 down for the gear and installation, then $129.95 a month ....dang man, that's over $1500 annually for Internet)! Nothing to brag about there! RIPOFF!! I don't care if it's their best or not, it still isn't worth the bucks ...but I had little to no choice but to either get it, or (literally) have to move to someplace in the 21st century.

Here's my test log from just a few moments ago. Overcast but Signal Strength is still 96 out of a possible 97. Only six users online @ testmy.net ....and I was pleased to get the following:

:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Connection is:: 952 Kbps about 1 Mbps (tested with 748 KB)

Download Speed is:: 116 KB/s

Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/

Bottom Line:: 17 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 8.83 second(s)

Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/auth_check.cgi?num=252525

My "up" averages 256kbps or higher during times of low congestion, but I have the Commercial Setup (and am paying dearly for it)! However, when my modem 'acts up' it will fall off to about 50kbps ...which is my first clue that the DW6000 needs a major power recycle to "bleed off" all capacitor charges (like I was trying to say earlier).

Cheers!

The Reverend

G4R 1201MHz

[xs1]

Just a note: it was the DW support personnel who directed me to testmy.net to test my upload speed, so i guess we can't say they were completely clueless.

w.....ow thats awesome

[Mr. Hahn]

What's BPL?

BadPacketLoss? lol

[ccr1958]

i suppose most of you with a fairly fast system has tried this already...but for the ones who haven't give it a shot....seems to help me out somewhat

info courtesy of dsl reports

***** this is for 4000 systems only..no exceptions***********

Q: Is there something I can do to improve my upload speeds with SRS? (#5376)

A: 1. One tweak for upload speed is to turn Path MTU Discovery to YES in DrTCP. Without this switch turned on, Windows treats the Satellite Upstream path as a dial-up path, and changes the MTU for the path to 576, regardless of what you have the MTU set for on the adapter. By turning Path MTU Discovery on, Windows will see that the upstream path minimum MTU is 1460-1500 bytes, and will adjust accordingly. - PD

2. A registry tweak has been found and tested to improve upload speeds on Satellite Return Systems. The only problem is that it only pertains to certain operating systems, with certain processors, with certain amounts of memory. This tweak requires modifying the registry, so please be sure to back up your registry before doing any of these modifications. This tweak has been extensively tested, and has not shown any signs of being problematic with any system. The details for the certain systems that this works on are below, but don