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    The "Tea Parties "

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    I agree with that, I just dont see this going anywhere but to the next election for the Repubs to use to get back in power. Thats what I see this as and nothing more. That will help nobody. The only thing that will is a real movement. That is not what is happening.

    You can look at the political threads here (theres a TON) and most of them are just filled with the same couple people going back and fourth and playing politics. Those are the same people (myself included) that posted in this thread. Its just more politics, the same old people playing the same old politics.Once Pixie, Water  and Cok post in here it will look identical to the other political threads, I am not saying that in a bad way, just matter of fact.  Nothing new here at all. People dont get it yet. They are still playing the game and being played by the game. When that changes I will have hope.

    There are hundreds of political threads here and I would say at least 80% of the posts are by the same people in ALL of those threads. Just us political junkies.

    The "Tea Parties "

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    i think there was a seed of an idea planted by that fella what's his name dr bob basso...i think were the idea of a "tea party" started a sort of modified version...that where i was first thinking about it anyway...and if u call bullshit...ur gonna get a whippin and no eggroll...cuz it's a thought...my thought...not an opinion...that's just when i thought it would be cool if it happened...new age "tea party" :)

    to me it doesn't matter who thought of it or coined it...or publicized it...just good imo...no that IS my opinion...

    but ur right other things have happened that should have gotten big media coverage and didn't...that there is fear and politics

    I said in my op that I agreed with muds concept. I think its great. I also think people have been used in this case. Like I said a real movement is not started by someone in the media and then encouraged by the media. That is not anywhere close to a grass roots movement. Santelli started this in early Feb  then more and more people talked about it and only after it got tons of coverage did it "blow up". But again, the number of people at the tea party did not come close to other movements. Its not fair to say yours is a movement because you are involved and the others arent. There are other huge movements and protests we hear nothing about. It should strike people as funny that not only was this one covered by the networks it was PROMOTED by the networks. I guess I am the minoritiy on this subject... Well most every subject. Thats ok though.  :grin2: Bottom line, this is one subject I would honestly LOVE to be wrong about. Time will tell.

    The reason I bold the part about Santelli is that it should say alot that these tea parties were started by a rich white guy that is a talking head for a major network. That right there takes grass roots out of it. Maybe astro turf. Grass roots movements cant have big corp sponsors or by definition it is not grass roots.

    The "Tea Parties "

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    It was "started" BY the news networks. How is that a movement. Rick Santelli said it on CNBC then Fox started promoting the hell out of it with other news orgs carrying it some. It was started by and encouraged BY the news networks. Like I said, there are plenty of on going movements that are tons bigger than this. You can say they got a little coverage but I remember NO national coverage. This was all day news on April 15th... That doesnt seem odd? For the first time in decades a protest is covered like real news when they have been ignored for years. Cmon.

    There was no real talk of "tea parties" until it was said on national tv by Santelli. If the American people are so lazy that they need the news orgs to start their movements for them I dont know what to say. If you can show me this movement before Santelli encouraged it on national tv and then it got plastered ALL over the internet then I will be impressed. CNBC/Santelli started it and Fox helped. No movement. Just bullshit that people bought into.

    IF YOU CARE ABOUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY

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    yeh except he wasn't invited...he was summoned...what is the story on that...did he talk to much...i gotta do some reading on that

    here's one blog about it...i guess he didn't go...but he hasn't been stifled either

    http://zapem.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/dr-bob-basso-sends-an-invitation-to-we-the-people-instead-of-an-rsvp-to-obama/

    Hes crazy for not going. He should have gone and said exactly whats in that vid to Obamas face. I would have. In a heartbeat.

    The "Tea Parties "

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    So could you summarize that in a few short sentences shug?  :lol:

    Sure buddy. I think (in my opinion) that America is waking up and noticing what is going on. But the tea parties (IMHO) are a sham. Why did they get such coverage when the other side of the coin got no coverage?

    there is a huge difference between a protest or demonstration and a movement

    Yup, and a movement is not one day of people standing out side with racist signs in their hands. Now the anti war movement. THAT is a movement. You can look at the list and the number of Americans and know it. So why was that movement not covered? If anyone thinks the MSM will support a REAL movement with coverage they are crazy.... IMO of course.

    The "Tea Parties "

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    There were Iraq war protests that got more people in one area than the tea parties gathered nation wide. There was no coverage of them. The tea parties are a joke and I am surprised you of all people were sucked in. Protest is great, but not when its sponsored by a political party or news org. So lets see, Fox covers the tea parties tons. Nationwide, the estimates put the tea party totals to 100k-200k. Not bad.

    http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/14/fox-news-sponsors-anti-tax-tea-party-e-mail-collection-drive/

    Ok how about Iraq war protests. Hmmm Fox/Mainstream Media doesnt cover them at all. They must have not been that big.

    On October 26, protests took place in various cities across the world. Over 100,000 people took part in a protest in Washington. 50,000 people took part in a demonstration in San Francisco. Both protests were called by the ANSWER Coalition.[17]

    Oh wait, hell yea they were. They were huge, some of which had 100k at ONE CITY and more. Here is a list of all the war protest nobody got to hear about on the news.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

    I just cant believe you dont see yourself being played when your eyes are open more than most.

    Here is a list of the war protest nobody got to see. On the other hand you got to get live daily ongoing coverage of the tea parties. But you know, black dem president and NOW after the last 8 years of shit people say enough.... LMAO Im not buying it.You should follow the link and see what the pictures look like, after you see the Iraq protest pics and compare them to tea party ask yourself which was a bigger movement. Which deserved more coverage.

    I agree with what you are saying, but I do not think that is what the tea parties were. We have had MULTIPLE movements with MANY more people involved than this before. Hell just in the last few years we have.

    Scope and impact in the United States

    A March 2003 Gallup poll conducted during the first few days of the war showed that 5% of the population had protested or made a public opposition against the war compared to 21% who attended a rally or made a public display to support the war. [6] An ABC news poll showed that 2% had attended an anti-war protest and 1% attended a pro-war rally. The protests made 20% more opposed to the war and 7% more supportive. [7] A Fox News poll showed that 63% had an unfavorable view of the protesters, just 23% had a favorable view. [8] According to Pew Research, 40% said in March 2003 that they had heard "too much" from people opposed to the war against 17% who said "too little". [9]

    [edit]Prior to the invasion of Iraq

    These protests are said to be the biggest global peace protests before a war actually started; the peace movement is compared with the movement caused by the Vietnam War.

    [edit]September 2002

    On September 12, 2002, U.S. President George W. Bush spoke to the United Nations General Assembly. Outside the United Nations building, 500 to 1,000 people attended a protest organized by Voter March [10]. Speakers included Voter March founder attorney Louis J. Posner, singer songwriter Patti Smith, former Students for a Democratic Society President professor Todd Gitlin, author/professor Mark Crispin Miller, and Democrats.com founder Bob Fertik.

    On September 24, Tony Blair released a document describing Britain's case for war in Iraq. Three days later, an anti-war rally in London drew a crowd of at least 150,000[11] and probably around 400,000.[12]

    On September 29, roughly 5,000 anti-war protesters converged on Washington, D.C. on the day after an anti-International Monetary Fund protest.[13]

    [edit]October 2002

    On October 2, the day President Bush signed into law Congress' joint resolution authorizing the war,[14] a small-scale protest was held in Chicago, attended by a crowd of roughly 1,000[15] who listened to speeches by Jesse Jackson and then-Illinois State Senator Barack Obama. Obama's statement, "I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars," was barely noted at the time, but became famous during the 2008 Democratic presidential primaries when the Obama camp used it to demonstrate his courage and good judgment on the war.[16]

    On October 26, protests took place in various cities across the world. Over 100,000 people took part in a protest in Washington. 50,000 people took part in a demonstration in San Francisco. Both protests were called by the ANSWER Coalition.[17]

    On October 31, around 150 protests took place across the United Kingdom, including Critical Mass bike rides, occupations, and mass demonstrations in Brighton, Manchester, Glasgow and London. Protests also took place in the US.[18]

    [edit]November 2002

    On November 9, demonstrations were held against the war at the end of the first European Social Forum in Florence, Italy. According to the organizers, 1,000,000 people were in attendance. Local authorities put attendance at 500,000.[citation needed]

    On Saturday, November 16, in Canada an anti-war demonstration of about 2,000 people occurred at Queen

    Nice place ya'all have here.

    in New Members

    Posted

    First post as I am brandy-nu member. I've read the rules now 3 times and feel confident of a passing grade should there be a pop quiz, :azn:  From this point I shall lurk and read, read, read and learn my surroundings, then post, as I'm not real shy. Look forward to meeting all.

    Screw that crap. Dont lurk. Jump in! Welcome.  :grin2:

    Inspiration.

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    indeed shugs , I fess I ain't watched the vids, (download limit )  but I do belive the power of the internet may save us from WW3 ,

    well thats the way I see it ,  I just hope we move on with religious/national feelings , hell; we all live on this planet for better or worse,

    all Brothers under the skin , but I guess the time isn't right yet , but maybe soon ,

    uindeed times are a changing,

    :kiss: I gotta go kill some nazi zombies on XBOX. IM OUTTIE!!!

    Inspiration.

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I believe people are making progress everyday, and with the aid of the internet we may make it yet. On testmy.net I dont see black or white, I dont see your culture, your physique, your level of attractivness. I see you. People are doing better. I wanted to post some of my favorite inspirational videos. They should at least make you smile.  :grin2:

    It began in 2007 when Paul Potts, an unassuming cell phone salesman, took the stage on Britain's Got Talent. Unlike American Idol, the show is a true talent show unencumbered by "marketability" and more toward finding the hidden talents of the common people. Paul Potts emerged on the international stage not as a potential "idol", but as a chubby, disheveled man who had been ridiculed and bullied in his younger years and had found his real being in his voice. He had the guts to share that real person with others. When asked why he was there, he stated "to sing opera". The dread of both the judges and audience was palpable. But what emerged when Mr. Potts began to sing was breathtaking.

    And now there is Susan Boyle. A 47 year old woman who has never been married, never been kissed, ridiculed as a child and teenager for a disability, who has revealed her transformation before judges and the world. She has sang her being to us, and moved us.

    Then there is my personal favorite.

    This love story began in Winchester , Mass. , 43 years ago, when Rick Was strangled by the umbilical cord during birth, leaving him Brain-damaged and unable to control his limbs.

    "He'll be a vegetable the rest of his life;'' Dick says doctors told him And his wife, Judy, when Rick was nine months old. ``Put him in an Institution.''

    But the Hoyts weren't buying it. They noticed the way Rick's eyes Followed them around the room. When Rick was 11 they took him to the Engineering department at Tufts University and asked if there was Anything to help the boy communicate. ``No way,'' Dick says he was told. ``There's nothing going on in his brain.''

    "Tell him a joke,'' Dick countered. They did. Rick laughed. Turns out a Lot was going on in his brain. Rigged up with a computer that allowed Him to control the cursor by touching a switch with the side of his Head, Rick was finally able to communicate. First words? ``Go Bruins!'' And after a high school classmate was paralyzed in an accident and the School organized a charity run for him, Rick pecked out, ``Dad, I want To do that.''

    Yeah, right. How was Dick, a self-described ``porker'' who never ran More than a mile at a time, going to push his son five miles? Still, he Tried. ``Then it was me who was handicapped,'' Dick says. ``I was sore For two weeks.''

    That day changed Rick's life. ``Dad,'' he typed, ``when we were running, It felt like I wasn't disabled anymore!''

    And that sentence changed Dick's life. He became obsessed with giving Rick that feeling as often as he could. He got into such hard-belly Shape that he and Rick were ready to try the 1979 Boston Marathon.

    ``No way,'' Dick was told by a race official. The Hoyts weren't quite a Single runner, and they weren't quite a wheelchair competitor. For a few Years Dick and Rick just joined the massive field and ran anyway, then They found a way to get into the race Officially: In 1983 they ran another marathon so fast they made the Qualifying time for Boston the following year.

    Then somebody said, ``Hey, Dick, why not a triathlon?''

    How's a guy who never learned to swim and hadn't ridden a bike since he Was six going to haul his 110-pound kid through a triathlon? Still, Dick Tried.

    Now they've done 212 triathlons, including four grueling 15-hour Ironmans in Hawaii . It must be a buzzkill to be a 25-year-old stud Getting passed by an old guy towing a grown man in a dinghy, don't you Think?

    Hey, Dick, why not see how you'd do on your own? ``No way,'' he says. Dick does it purely for ``the awesome feeling'' he gets seeing Rick with A cantaloupe smile as they run, swim and ride together.

    This year, at ages 65 and 43, Dick and Rick finished their 24th Boston Marathon, in 5,083rd place out of more than 20,000 starters. Their best Time? Two hours, 40 minutes in 1992--only 35 minutes off the world Record, which, in case you don't keep track of these things, happens to Be held by a guy who was not pushing another man in a wheelchair at the Time.

    ``No question about it,'' Rick types. ``My dad is the Father of the Century.''

    And Dick got something else out of all this too. Two years ago he had a Mild heart attack during a race. Doctors found that one of his arteries Was 95% clogged. ``If you hadn't been in such great shape,'' One doctor told him, ``you probably would've died 15 years ago.'' So, in a way, Dick and Rick saved each other's life.

    Rick, who has his own apartment (he gets home care) and works in Boston, and Dick, retired from the military and living in Holland, Mass. , always find ways to be together. They give speeches around the country and compete in some backbreaking race every weekend, including this Father's Day.

    That night, Rick will buy his dad dinner, but the thing he really wants to give him is a gift he can never buy.

    ``The thing I'd most like,'' Rick types, ``is that my dad sit in the chair and I push him once.''

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