Marcin541 Posted December 11, 2004 CID Share Posted December 11, 2004 Around 6-10Pm my speed is all over the place. I mean, all over... Sometimes 3.1Mbps, sometimes 600kbps. Is anyone else experiancing these problems? My guess is packet loss. Upload is fine though. This is my tracert to testmy.net, anything wrong in there? It seems like a pretty long route though lol Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:Documents and SettingsMarcin B.HOMEPC>tracert testmy.net Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1] 2 31 ms 32 ms 33 ms 10.32.107.1 3 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms at-3-0-0-1727.CORE-RTR2.NY325.verizon-gni.net [1 30.81.11.53] 4 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms so-4-0-0-0.BB-RTR2.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81 .8.29] 5 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms so-1-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130. 81.4.14] 6 28 ms 28 ms 30 ms so-6-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net [65.59.196.1 7] 7 30 ms 62 ms 30 ms ae-1-51.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.1] 8 75 ms 115 ms 81 ms so-0-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.0.137] 9 70 ms 71 ms 73 ms ge-1-2-56.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.166] 10 67 ms 66 ms 67 ms 4.78.220.10 11 82 ms 75 ms 73 ms dist-vlan31.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85. 127.30] 12 77 ms 77 ms 76 ms dist-vlan22.dsr1-2.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85. 127.76] 13 66 ms 67 ms 67 ms dsr2-1-v1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.7] 14 69 ms 69 ms 70 ms gig1-0-2.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18. 116.86] 15 67 ms 67 ms 67 ms 6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6] Trace complete. C:Documents and SettingsMarcin B.HOMEPC> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 8 75 ms 115 ms 81 ms so-0-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.0.137 That one is awfully high, but I'm not sure if it is your ISP's fault, or just a failing node on your route. In the second case there is nothing you can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 Its not just testmy.net that is slow, its all testing sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 That node is in Dallas, so I doubt it's in his ISP's network since he lives in NY. Your second hop starts you off higher than I normally see. I beleive it's located somewhere within your home network somewhere after the router. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 this is your first hop after router 31 ms 32 ms 33 ms 10.32.107.1 it seems too high it suppose to be between 5-15 ms for you. is this node unstable? Do you sometimes get lower pings on this node? VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hahn Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. I just called it the second hop so he could reference it on the tracert results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:Documents and Settings>tracert testmy.net Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1] 2 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.32.107.1 3 * 33 ms 36 ms at-3-0-0-1726.CORE-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [1 30.81.11.49] 4 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms so-4-0-0-0.BB-RTR1.NY325.verizon-gni.net [130.81 .8.25] 5 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130. 81.4.10] 6 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms so-6-2-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net [65.59.196.1 7] 7 30 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae-1-53.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.65] 8 63 ms 64 ms 65 ms so-0-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.0.137] 9 63 ms 64 ms 63 ms ge-1-1-55.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.134] 10 68 ms 71 ms 71 ms 4.78.220.10 11 65 ms 66 ms 67 ms dist-vlan31.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85. 127.30] 12 83 ms 69 ms 67 ms dist-vlan22.dsr1-2.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85. 127.76] 13 75 ms 77 ms 80 ms dsr2-1-v2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.39] 14 68 ms 76 ms 73 ms gig1-0-2.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18. 116.86] 15 67 ms 67 ms 71 ms 6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6] Trace complete. When i ping the first one i get an average of 27ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 do you have modem installed on your first incoming phone socket? VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 There is no need to "guess" if it's packet loss. Just get to a command prompt and type: ping www.google.com ..then hit the Enter Key. All four pings should come back as 100%. (....meaning that under the "ping returns" it should say Lost = 0 If you are losing packets it will show less than 100% (loss = ? (higher than 0), which means it is time to call your ISP to get it nailed down It's normal to DROP packets, because they are just resent, but you never want to be LOSING packets ...that will screw up the works bigtime my friend. Loss = 0 is the only acceptable thing you want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 When testing out if it's packet loss I think that 4 pings is not enough. Either specify a much larger amount of pings (like 25 - 50), or set it up to go on forever. That way you can see packetloss much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 A ping to google, Microsoft® Windows DOS ©Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001. C:DOCUME~1MARCIN~1.HOM>ping google.com Pinging google.com [216.239.37.99] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=243 Ping statistics for 216.239.37.99: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 31ms C:DOCUME~1MARCIN~1.HOM> And Van, do you mean, is my phone cord connected directly into the main phone jack? I dont understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 your modem has a middlebox socket right? So you can use both modem and a phone in main jacket? What i mean is that its best to have the modem direct connected to the main phone jacket. And if your pc in further away, then use a long LAN cable from modem instead. alot of phone extension wires will bring down your speed. VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 I thought that at first, but then how come it slows down only between 6-10PM, not all the time? Its not like the phone wire grows any longer at that time. EDIT: Speed test run at 11:40AM :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 2842 Kbps about 2.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB) Download Speed is:: 347 KB/s Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/ Bottom Line:: 51 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 2.95 second(s) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=BNQRGUFAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 yea thats correct, phone wire dosent grow But using your modem in first phone jacket, will minimize the risk that the problem is at your home. This problem is out of your control, you need to contact your ISP and complain, make tracerts and add date and time so they got something to work with. VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 The problem, My tracert and pings are pretty much the same all day long, but my speed is crazy. So me making tracert's and pings wont help much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs1 Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 When testing out if it's packet loss I think that 4 pings is not enough. Either specify a much larger amount of pings (like 25 - 50)' date=' or set it up to go on forever. That way you can see packetloss much better.[/quote'] start > run > cmd ping -t <address here > - unlimited ping start > run > cmd ping -t -l <value> <address here> unlimited ping w/ value set ; could get you banned from many servers tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 you should get Neotrace, then leave it on pinging the complete route for a few min each time. Here is a ss how the ping can look like, max min values for each node, my guess its just very unstable at those times, VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 One timed out, Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:Documents and SettingsMarcin B.HOMEPC>ping -t -l 999 google.com Pinging google.com [216.239.37.99] with 999 bytes of data: Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=44ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=44ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=51ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=45ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=53ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=43ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=46ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=43ms TTL=243 Request timed out. Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=44ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=43ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=45ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=44ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=41ms TTL=243 Reply from 216.239.37.99: bytes=56 (sent 999) time=42ms TTL=243 ---------------------------------- Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:Documents and SettingsMarcin B.HOMEPC>ping -t -l 999 10.32.107.1 Pinging 10.32.107.1 with 999 bytes of data: Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=40ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=39ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=39ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=39ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=38ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=37ms TTL=254 Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 Weird, it seems to be going in two different directions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 And this is the other screen with the lines lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 the problem is to find what node thats unstable, but ping flooding each node will show you, but its alot of work compared to Neotrace. Reply from 10.32.107.1: bytes=999 time=36ms TTL=254 this node ping suppose to be around 5-15 ms I dont think the problem is at your equipment but, you can try pinging with pc directly connected to the modem. if its not too much work for you, keep on ping flooding your route all the way to testmy.net and see what nodes thats unstable, VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 And this is the other screen with the lines lol compare that when you have lousy speed and when you have good speed VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 I think i might have found the Node's that are causing problems From tracing yahoo.com: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin541 Posted December 12, 2004 Author CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 From testmy.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted December 12, 2004 CID Share Posted December 12, 2004 Weird' date=' it seems to be going in two different directions?[/quote'] The locations for each node is very inaccurate, you cant even trust a certain node is in a specific country. I have a node here in sweden that says its located in US lol VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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