drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 My original problem was speed testing at pcpitstop: IE6 2950kps firefox 1.5 1100kps opera 8.5 400-800kps These speeds were achieved after optimizing for 3.0mb cable connection using TCP optimizer. To level the playing field I have changed my settings with cablenut and tested again at testmy.net, here are the results. OS Win 98SE cable connection 3.0 mb down and 300kps up have installed all registry tweaks for win98 from speedguide have changed settings with cablenut First I tried Vanburens version 7 for win98 cable +1500 Now using Vanburens version 8 for win98 cable +1500 This is from speed guide TCP options string = 020405b401010402 MTU = 1500 MTU is fully optimized for broadband. MSS = 1460 Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which equals MSS. Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 64240 RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 64240 RWIN is a multiple of MSS Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS: 513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4) 128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2) 64240 (MSS x 44) <-- current value bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test): Your TCP Window limits you to: 2569.6 Kbps (321.2 KBytes/s) @ 200ms Your TCP Window limits you to: 1027.84 Kbps (128.48 KBytes/s) @ 500ms MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON Time to live left = 55 hops TTL value is ok. Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 01011100 (92) Precedence (priority) = 010 (immediate) Delay = 1 (low delay) Throughput = 1 (high throughput) Reliability = 1 (high reliability) Cost = 0 (normal cost) Check bit = 0 (correct, 8th checking bit must be zero) DiffServ (RFC 2474) = No valid DiffServ equivalent. See the TCP Optimizer documentation, or RFCs 2474, 2475, 2597, 2598, 2873. This is the fastest run for IE6 out of 3 runs :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 1829 Kbps about 1.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 223 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (server1) Test Time:: Fri Feb 17 06:54:19 CST 2006 Bottom Line:: 33X faster than 56K 1MB download in 4.59 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 62.32 % of your hosts average (cableone.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-OAMF2ZVC0 This is the fastest run for firefox 1.5 out of 3 runs :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 1522 Kbps about 1.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 186 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (server1) Test Time:: Fri Feb 17 2006 07:01:03 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) Bottom Line:: 27X faster than 56K 1MB download in 5.51 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 51.86 % of your hosts average (cableone.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-Q5YM0J7PN This is the fastest run for Opera 8.5 after 3 runs :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 1226 Kbps about 1.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 150 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (server1) Test Time:: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:06:31 GMT-0600 Bottom Line:: 22X faster than 56K 1MB download in 6.83 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 41.79 % of your hosts average (cableone.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-WMU1B2835 The tests were run within about 10minutes and I used adwareSE and spybot and emptied cash in all browsers before running Any help would be great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Try this ccs file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 I tried to load the file but it said it was for win2000 and it didnt make any changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Do the TCP Analyzer test to see if your RWIN has been changed? https://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 No, the win2000 css file didnt change anything, so I looked at your file. I changed the RWIN to 128480 with cablenut but at speedguide it showed something like 65 thousand something I forgot to write it down. So I changed the RWIN with TCP optimizer to 128480 and my speed slowed down. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 1577 Kbps about 1.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 193 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (server1) Test Time:: Fri Feb 17 09:12:31 CST 2006 Bottom Line:: 28X faster than 56K 1MB download in 5.31 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 53.77 % of your hosts average (cableone.net) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-FZ94NXPTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Increasing RWIN is similar to enlarging the signal pipeline. Do a tracert to www.yahoo.com and see if the problem lies with signal transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 I ran this with tcp optimizer inging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=54 Pinging [68.142.226.45] with 32 bytes ->bytes=32 time=74ms TTL=54 Ping statistics for above hosts: Packets: Sent = 9, Received = 9, Lost = 0 (0% loss) Approximate round trip times (RTT) in milli-seconds: Minimum = 40ms, Maximum = 74ms, Average = 49ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 This feature in TCP Optimizer is for finding latency. For ease, you can do a reverse traceroute back to your IP Address at this site: http://www.dnsstuff.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sorry I figured out how to change the batch file here are the results Current date is Fri 02-17-2006 Current time is 9:48:58.51a Windows 98 [Version 4.10.2222] Pinging yahoo.com [66.94.234.13] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=51 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=51 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=51 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=118ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=51 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=52 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=51 Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=52 Ping statistics for 66.94.234.13: Packets: Sent = 12, Received = 12, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 118ms, Average = 103ms Ping Complete. Tracing route to yahoo.com [216.109.112.135] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 15 ms 20 ms 17 ms 10.119.140.1 2 34 ms 20 ms 19 ms 24-116-200-229.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.200.229] 3 26 ms 27 ms 31 ms 12.124.58.25 4 50 ms 39 ms 42 ms gbr1-a80s6.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.20.10] 5 40 ms 39 ms 44 ms tbr2-cl17.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.10.69] 6 43 ms 66 ms 36 ms 12.122.81.249 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 45 ms 56 ms 49 ms ae1.p420.msr2.dcn.yahoo.com [216.115.96.185] 9 37 ms 50 ms 48 ms ge9-3.bas1-m.dcn.yahoo.com [216.109.120.219] 10 44 ms 38 ms 42 ms yahoo.com [216.109.112.135] Trace complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Your first 2 hops seems to have relative high values. The usual value in the first hop is less than 10 ms and the 2nd about 10-12 ms Check for possible faulty cables or electromagnetic interference from other electrical devices like sound speakers, subwoofer, cordless phone, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Ok, does this mean that the problem is with cableone? Or something I can change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 If it is a faulty cable (between your comp and modem or modem to wall socket) you can inspect and change it to a new one. If it is electromagnetic interference, you need only to reposition your modem and signal cables away from other electrical devices. I notice your ISP is providing Cable TV as well. Make sure you do not place the modem on top of your TV set with signal lines running down the back of it. Reposition the modem below the TV so that signal lines can branch out along the wall at floor level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifter0000 Posted February 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 I really appreciate your help. When I ran the original tests on pcpitstop I was using Zone Alarm firewall and getting 2950kbs with IE6 and much slower speeds with opera 8.5 and foxfire 1.5. Someone told me to switch to Sygate, so I did. All of the speed tests above that I did at testmy.net were preformed with Sygate personal 5.6 I got rid of the firewall and retested with RWIN 256960 and 128480. Without any firewall my IE6 speed is 3.1Mb and opera and foxfire are both 2.1Mb so part of the problem was with the firewall but now I am now back to the original problem of firefox 1.5 and opera 8.5 being slow browsers and I really dont like IE6. My first 2 hops were 6 and 8 ms. Any suggestions about the browsers and maybe a firewall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 Have you install the patcher to change concurrent Tcp connections from default of 10 to 50? You can install the patcher here: http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=tools&PHPSESSID=89e182258e07f2e142af1f7e8701287e To speed up FireFox, this thread may be of help: http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-11556 As for Opera, they recently have a new version 8.52. You may also adjust number of concurrent Tcp connections at Tools>Preferences>Network>... The thread on firewalls is : http://www.testmy.net/forum/t-11919 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted February 17, 2006 CID Share Posted February 17, 2006 drifter0000;I'm not sure if this will help you but check these links.I wrote them for dial-up but I would like to know if the settings are in the same location for a cable modem. I think some of the tweaks will apply to a cable modem they are for 98. http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9647.msg94293#msg94293 http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=9597.msg93043#msg93043 I use Agnitum Outpost for a firewall.I had Sygate at one time but it started messing up so I switched & haven't had any problems.Its free if you just keep the trial version(no time limit ) If you upgrade you get support & a few extra features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallowEarth Posted February 18, 2006 CID Share Posted February 18, 2006 drifter, are you using NIC or USB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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