simpleman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Just ordered EVDO-A. Cancelling mt Hughesnet order. Save the 300 upfront since I just have to pay 59.99 a month and no equipment to buy( PX500 card is free after instant rebate). VSAT technician recommended EVDO over staellite for on line gaming purposes. In the next few days I will report back. In the meanwhile can someone else enlighten me on how their on line gaming works with EVDO-A. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Is it truly running the Revision A today? I have straight EVDO ( 1st Gen ) and get 200-400ms ping times on average. I hear that revision A is supposed to be better, but I did not think it was active anywhere yet. Either way, EVDO anything should be better than satellite for gaming purposes anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 For the heck of it, I fired up the laptop and ran a ping testt. The times are better than I recall they usually were: Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=147ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=166ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=340ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=222ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=46 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=46 Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85: Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 94ms, Maximum = 340ms, Average = 150ms And again, this area is not yet Revision A. Quick speed test: :::.. testmy.net test results ..::: Download Connection is:: 828 Kbps about 0.83 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 101 kB/s Upload Connection is:: 116 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 386 kB) Upload Speed is:: 14 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/28 - 10:50am D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-LJ7NA3ZIE U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-GPMA4XK6C User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 [!] This is via Sprint/Nextel, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Welcome to the forum simpleman So you hook it to your phone or something? And then USB it to your computer? Is that like using a hotspot or something? Just curious. Oops, forgot the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 28, 2007 Author CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Those are decent ping rates. I am not sure if rev A is available. On the phone I was told it will be rev A but, she absolutly did not know what she was talking about technically. I asked if I could route to my other PC and she said no and that I would have to have two cards and two accounts. When there website clearly states that the merlin s720 is usable with the linksy router. http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html I'm trying to get this for two desktops. If you could enlighten me on which card and how to route to my other pc it would be helpful. Answer to Tommie is PCI to PCMCIA adaptor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=PCI+to+PCMCIA+card&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Actually, tommie, it is a PCMCIA card. simpleman is getting the PX500 card: http://www.evdoinfo.com/images/stories/PX500.jpg I have a Novatel Merlin S720 in my work laptop: http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html The links have photos. And also, welcome to the forum simpleman, I did not notice the post number 1 thing until tommie reminded me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Those are decent ping rates. I am not sure if rev A is available. On the phone I was told it will be rev A but, she absolutly did not know what she was talking about technically. I asked if I could route to my other PC and she said no and that I would have to have two cards and two accounts. When there website clearly states that the merlin s720 is usable with the linksy router. http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/S720card.html I'm trying to get this for two desktops. If you could enlighten me on which card and how to route to my other pc it would be helpful. Answer to Tommie is PCI to PCMCIA adaptor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=PCI+to+PCMCIA+card&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 I guarantee that there is a way to route them, hopefully without the expensive wi-fi sharing boxes out there. Although, that Linksys box is not too horribly expensive. When the wi-fi sharing routers fist came out, they were like 600 dollars and higher. Here is one way thru windows: http://www.evdoinfo.com/Tips/PC_5220/Windows_Sharing_EVDO_2005021759/ Any one else having any ideas? I don't share my EVDO connection, I use it for work and have a cable modem at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 28, 2007 Author CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 That is correct. PX500 plus pci to pcmcia adaptor so it will work on my desktop since it has pci slots. Although I'm curious if there is an advantage to the Merlin card over the PX500. I called back and the operator told me EVDO rev A won't be available for a couple more months. He also said both cards can be routed. Appreciate the welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 So I could possibly do this also then. I will have to check with verizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Sprint's EVDO System Adverages 800K Baud A Sec Download 200-420K Baud A Sec Upload as I can state this from hands on experence... I'm been using Sprint's Unlimited Data System ($62.00 monthly fee) in Sin City (Las Vegas Nevada) for multiple months.... I have to say it is very useable. Have used AT&T/Cingular Data via USB cable with a Moto Razor V3 Phone but data was slow 120 to 200K baud . I have also used a few times,the data connect that Verizon Wireless has, and it too is not as fast Have not had hands on with T-Mobile ....... Heads Up >>>>>>>> For the Novatel PCICMA Card S620 their is a update for Sprint's EVDO(rev a) Again I have hands on tested multiple cellular data providers and EVDO from Sprint/Nextel is very useable and good data rates is the most useable See this Url http://www.thewirelessreport.com/2007/01/26/wireless-data-speeds-who-is-the-fastest/ it verifys my hands on experence and other info My 2 Cents >>>>>>>>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 So I could possibly do this also then. I will have to check with verizon. If you have the service in your area, then yes. I drive all over the city where I live daily while working, and I rarely loose the connection. It is pretty stable. BTW, you should also check the other carriers, but I believe Verizon and Sprint/Nextel are the two biggest EVDO carriers. Both are available in Omaha, NE, where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Is it truly running the Revision A today? I have straight EVDO ( 1st Gen ) and get 200-400ms ping times on average. I hear that revision A is supposed to be better, but I did not think it was active anywhere yet. Either way, EVDO anything should be better than satellite for gaming purposes anyways. It is active in Las Vegas Sprint's EVDO System Adverages 800K Baud A Sec Download 200-420K Baud A Sec Upload as I can state this from hands on experence... I'm been using Sprint's Unlimited Data System ($62.00 monthly fee) in Sin City (Las Vegas Nevada) for multiple months.... I have to say it is very useable. Have used AT&T/Cingular Data via USB cable with a Moto Razor V3 Phone but data was slow 120 to 200K baud . I have also used a few times,the cellular data connect that Verizon Wireless has, and it too is not as fast Have not had hands on with T-Mobile ....... Heads Up >>>>>>>> For the Novatel PCICMA Card S620 their is a update for Sprint's EVDO(rev a) Again I have hands on tested multiple cellular data providers and EVDO from Sprint/Nextel is very useable and good data rates is the most useable See this Url http://www.thewirelessreport.com/2007/01/26/wireless-data-speeds-who-is-the-fastest/ it verifys my hands on experence and other info My 2 Cents >>>>>>>>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far. What is the U/L like?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far. What is the U/L like?? Posted this test result earlier. This is Sprint, though, not Verizon. Quick speed test: :::.. testmy.net test results ..::: Download Connection is:: 828 Kbps about 0.83 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 101 kB/s Upload Connection is:: 116 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 386 kB) Upload Speed is:: 14 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/28 - 10:50am D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-LJ7NA3ZIE U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-GPMA4XK6C User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 [!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 I just reupped my contract and got a new phone with them. So it would have to be with Verizon. Which is ok, I like them so far. What is the U/L like?? If I recall correctly 100 to 250k baud - was back in 2004 -I last had hands on with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 OK, better pings. I already own my equipment now. And no weather problems. What about slowdowns during the day? Did it require a contract? How is the support with it? I am really interested. (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Warning --- Some of the modems/cards will not work with PCMCIA to PCI adaptor cards their is a conflict Make sure you can return the adaptor card if this fact happens to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV0LUTI0NIZED Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Here's a trace route result from my Treo 700p using EVDO, ill post my speed test result in a second. Verizon Wireless is my provider. Traceroute Results: 1 3.24.1343.static.theplanet.com (67.19.36.3) 0.616 ms 0.309 ms 0.391 ms 2 vl7.dsr01.dllstx4.theplanet.com (67.18.116.65) 0.401 ms 0.779 ms 0.262 ms 3 vl41.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.85.127.81) 23.884 ms 203.238 ms 6.184 ms 4 et3-1.ibr04.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.9) 0.530 ms 0.509 ms 0.531 ms 5 te-3-1.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.71.122.1) 0.672 ms 0.650 ms 0.531 ms 6 ae-12-55.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.142) 1.073 ms ae-22-54.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.110) 1.235 ms ae-22-52.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.46) 1.296 ms 7 4.79.182.22 (4.79.182.22) 17.730 ms 2.506 ms 2.419 ms 8 66.sub-66-174-98.myvzw.com (66.174.98.66) 2.018 ms 2.263 ms 2.285 ms 9 2.sub-66-174-99.myvzw.com (66.174.99.2) 44.526 ms 44.764 ms 45.547 ms 10 162.sub-66-174-31.myvzw.com (66.174.31.162) 44.900 ms 45.011 ms 44.794 ms 11 100.sub-66-174-31.myvzw.com (66.174.31.100) 45.545 ms 45.286 ms 45.047 ms 12 137.sub-66-174-31.myvzw.com (66.174.31.137) 45.187 ms 45.553 ms 45.305 ms 13 116.sub-66-174-217.myvzw.com (66.174.217.116) 45.855 ms 47.196 ms 45.695 ms 14 198.sub-75-211-71.myvzw.com (75.211.71.198) 46.338 ms 46.071 ms 46.395 ms 15 198.sub-75-211-71.myvzw.com (75.211.71.198) 211.912 ms 196.615 ms 213.950 ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Warning --- Some of the modems/cards will not work with PCMCIA to PCI adaptor cards their is a conflict Make sure you can return the adaptor card if this fact happens to you Good point, something for simpleman to keep in mind. And, tommie, I would assume that there is a contract requirement with Verizon, there is with Sprint. And the support? I have never had a problem, so never needed to call anyone, been around 2 years now. I don't test speeds on it much, but I do occasionally get into and area that seems to be a little busy, or saturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV0LUTI0NIZED Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Remember this speed test was done by a PDA/Smartphone not a wireless card. But I think its the same speeds you might get in a wireless card... hopefully. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 1997 Kbps about 2 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 244 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/28 - 12:17pm Bottom Line:: 35X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 4.2 sec Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 12.27 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Looks Great : 16.65 % faster than the average for host (myvzw.com) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-493JDI85M User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320 [!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 OK, that all looks real good. I will call them in a bit. Very interesting solution for me maybe. (now how many times have I said that already.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Again >>>>>>> Warning --- Some of the modems/cards will not work with PCMCIA to PCI adaptor cards Their is a CONFLICT Make sure you can return the adaptor card if this fact happens to you And, tommie, others, I would assume that there is a contract requirement with all the providers, there is with Sprint. 1 Year Contract and $62.00 Monthly And the support with Sprint? I have had a problem, ping loss at step 2 and support from Sprint was ok if you could get a past the 1st level and to the 2nd level of tech support I don't test speeds on it much Adverage 800K Down 200K Up I use it all over Sin City and so far no connect problems Casinos, Bars, In Car on I-15 & Local Streets, Home , Office , All Over Sin City -- Las Vegas I Quote from below url :: Cingular and T-Mobile both offer EDGE (no HSDPA yet) Alltel and Sprint Nextel offer EV-DO http://www.thewirelessreport.com/2007/01/26/wireless-data-speeds-who-is-the-fastest/ Well thats my 2 cents Good Luck and Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thank you all, from a worn out sat user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hopefully the EVDO solution makes things better for both of you.......good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted January 28, 2007 CID Share Posted January 28, 2007 I almost forgot about the new usb based modem and the url for info and specs and review ............ USB Modem - Sprint EVDO - Check out http://www.jiwire.com/sprint-u720-usb-modem-product-overview.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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