Hctim Posted February 25, 2005 CID Share Posted February 25, 2005 LOKI TORRENT LAWSUIT :: A HOAX Written by: SharePro As unknown facts continue to reveal themselves in the MPAA vs. LokiTorrent case, we feel a need to update the community with the following facts. Please note: Attributing to the confusion surrounding this case, we have established that Ed Webber was not sued directly by the MPAA, rather was sued by individual media corporations such as Columbia, Disney, & Fox. Since the "MPAA" (Motion Picture Association of America) does not appear anywhere in the actual court filing, any search query for "MPAA" via the Texas Court Search Engine came up empty. In other words, the MPAA did not officially sue Ed Webber, rather the individual media companies, in a joint case, sued Ed Webber. We apologize for any confusion. 1) In several p2p interviews and on Lokitorrent.com website, Ed Webber accepted a responsibility to fight the MPAA in court on behalf of both his website(s) and the p2p community. By accepting such a task and responsibility, Ed Webber received not only the trust of millions of p2pr's worldwide, but also tens of thousands of dollars monthly to support legal fee's. 2) Ed Webber did not fight a case in court and it is doubtful whether he ever intended to. Mr. Webber settled his case in the preliminary stages of a court filing outside of court. The title of our original article, "LOKITORRENT COURT CASE :: HOAX" is and remains to be TRUE. No judge or jury of our peers ever had the chance to review the facts of this case as it was never deliberated in a court of law. The "court order" is nothing more than a private agreement between the MPAA and Ed Webber, which was given legal standing by a judge. Ed Webber knowingly manipulated the p2p community into donating a large amount of funds while during the same exact time, without the knowledge or agreement of the p2p community, closed a deal that potentially puts each and everyone of his supporting bit torrent community and website visiting members at risk. During the time that Mr. Webber was accepting funds from the p2p community, and also instructing his lawyers to screw the p2p community, he also found time to try and secretly sell the domain on Sedo.com On January 3, 2005, Slyck.com reported Lokitorrent.com required funds to support "legal fees". Most lawsuits, such as the Kazaa vs. RIAA case in California, take years to reveal themselves yet the p2p community was very willing to support this legal endeavor. Exactly one month after the Slyck.com article, all funds raised by Ed Webber via Lokitorrent.com were transferred to the MPAA. 3) Ed Webber accepted donations while in fact his lawyers were busy selling out the p2p file share community whose funds were being used to support the court case. Ed Webber failed to update the p2p community with the necessary details of the legal proceedings, thus everybody was left in the dark. We do not know the exact details of when or how Ed Webber and the MPAA made a deal, however, the fundraising began on January 3, 2005 and the deal between the MPAA vs. Ed Webber was signed by a judge on Feb 15, 2005. It is assumed that the deal between Ed Webber and the MPAA deal was being "cooked" at least 30 days prior to the actual court order which means that Ed Webber began (from the get go) accepting funds from the p2p community when in fact he already knew that he was going to close a deal with the MPAA. In other words, Ed Webber committed FRAUD. 4) Ultimately, Ed Webber accepted the MPAA's position that BIT TORRENT sites are financially responsible for providing "illegal files" and folded before any legal lawsuit could realize themselves in a court of law. Ed, as trustee of tens of thousands of file sharers dollars, not only sold out the file share community that he represented, but also set a very dangerous precedent for future file share sites who are interested in encouraging community members to donate money to fight the RIAA & MPAA. 5) According to todays WHOIS domain command feature, LokiTorrent.com, Webbsense.com, Torrentstop.com, and Mufftorrent.com are still registered and owned by Ed Webber and are still hosted on his personal servers. Mufftorrent.com and Websense.com continue to display their original website homepage features (without the torrents) while Lokitorrent.com & Torrentstop.com display an MPAA message warning potential file sharer's "you can click but you cant hide". At first this confused the best of us. After reviewing Section 4, Article "©", of the LOKITORRENT AGREEMENT WITH MPAA, please note the following text: "Shall affirmatively monitor and patrol for, and preclude access to...". In other words, Ed Webber has agreed to become an affirmative informant for the MPAA. That explains why the site is still owned and controlled by Ed Webber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted February 25, 2005 CID Share Posted February 25, 2005 shame the website went down and with all that money and he did not fight agaisnt them that really sucked big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organ_shifter Posted February 25, 2005 CID Share Posted February 25, 2005 I had heard previously that he ran off with the money. If this is, in fact, a true story, then I think Ed Webber is a low life, piece of shit. Honestly, I believe the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onibus Posted February 25, 2005 CID Share Posted February 25, 2005 Could sue him for fraud =P. Though it could possibly fail. Ah crap, the feds are at my door, they found pirated windows, adobe photoshop, premiere, norton 2004, and all loads of stuff. Oh my. Please, donate to my legal funds via paypal so I can fight off these feds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckHL Posted February 28, 2005 CID Share Posted February 28, 2005 Could sue him for fraud =P. Though it could possibly fail. Ah crap, the feds are at my door, they found pirated windows, adobe photoshop, premiere, norton 2004, and all loads of stuff. Oh my. Please, donate to my legal funds via paypal so I can fight off these feds! Man, you have no clue how much you made me laugh with that comment ;') it was the very hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risky Posted February 28, 2005 CID Share Posted February 28, 2005 Im not surprised... Karma will come for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted February 28, 2005 CID Share Posted February 28, 2005 hum, been reading about this it really looks like he was not very etical about the all thing just to think that for once some one will actually give a shit about the file sharing comunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox Posted March 27, 2005 CID Share Posted March 27, 2005 Erm, people do know the hoax was itself a 'hoax', right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted March 28, 2005 CID Share Posted March 28, 2005 lol this is a load of bs, i have the coart papers, and if you go to the mpaa site you can information if the close down. btw the coart papers are over 100 pages long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted March 28, 2005 CID Share Posted March 28, 2005 i cant be asked to read that much any one can say if simply it was or not a hoax did he keep the money or fought for the comunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox Posted March 29, 2005 CID Share Posted March 29, 2005 It seems not enough money: Charles S. Baker, Webber's attorney, said at least parts of LokiTorrent were defensible in court. In particular, he said, Webber offered to drop links to any pirated goods that copyright owners found on the site. But the studios had plenty of money for legal fees, and "there was nobody coming to the table willing to write a check for him to defend this lawsuit," Baker said. "Like a lot of David vs. Goliath situations, he's got stones to throw, but he didn't have any money to go get a slingshot." LA Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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