cak46 Posted July 15, 2005 CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yes, the mouse is "glitchy" to say the least. Everytime it starts acting up I go into the properties and reclick the button selection "close application"( for the middle button) and click OK and then it works again, for awhile. Also, I keep getting that system error that a "Human Interface Device,,,,,, failed to connect"(or something like that) I think I posted it once a while back BTW I will look for that bootlog. txt :oops: did you reboot after changing the reg entries, then hit f8 then select boot logging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 15, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 did you reboot after changing the reg entries, then hit f8 then select boot logging? Right now, but I did find yesterdays bootlog. Is that enough or do you want a fresh bootlog after rebooting now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 15, 2005 CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 Right now, but I did find yesterdays bootlog. Is that enough or do you want a fresh bootlog after rebooting now? Fresh would be better. The changes you made might have an effect on the bootlogging but is supposed to increase the information in your event logs. After the reboot, look at each log carefully to see if the error is caught in there, with more info. Hopefully! BTW: I'd wait on ripping your cd drives out until we see whats in the logs and possibly the mouse replace, if you're going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 15, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 Fresh would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 15, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 OK. I ran bootlog and it's a Burger King, I mean a whopper. BTW I do NOT have "Disable Status Messages" in my reg at all, so I guess that's OK If I did I would have to set that to 0. Well here goes,,,,,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 15, 2005 CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 Here is the last entry: Service Pack 2 7 14 2005 18:08:22.500 Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32ntoskrnl.exe Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32hal.dll Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32KDCOM.DLL Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32BOOTVID.dll Loaded driver ACPI.sys Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32DRIVERSWMILIB.SYS Loaded driver pci.sys Loaded driver isapnp.sys Loaded driver ohci1394.sys Loaded driver WINDOWSSystem32DRIVERS1394BUS.SYS Loaded driver pciide.sys Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32DRIVERSPCIIDEX.SYS Loaded driver viaide.sys Loaded driver MountMgr.sys Loaded driver ftdisk.sys Loaded driver dmload.sys Loaded driver dmio.sys Loaded driver PartMgr.sys Loaded driver sfsync02.sys Loaded driver VolSnap.sys Loaded driver atapi.sys Loaded driver disk.sys Loaded driver WINDOWSSystem32DRIVERSCLASSPNP.SYS Loaded driver fltmgr.sys Loaded driver sr.sys Loaded driver KSecDD.sys Loaded driver Defrag32b.sys Loaded driver Ntfs.sys Loaded driver NDIS.sys Loaded driver sfhlp02.sys Loaded driver sfdrv01.sys Loaded driver nv_agp.sys Loaded driver Mup.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSamdk7.sys Mobile Power driver for AMD Athlon Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSusbohci.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSusbehci.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSNVENET.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversnvax.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSimapi.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERScdrom.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32Driversincdrm.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSInCDPass.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSnv4_mini.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSserial.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSserenum.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSparport.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSi8042prt.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSkbdclass.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSaudstub.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSrasl2tp.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSndistapi.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSndiswan.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSraspppoe.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSraspptp.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmsgpc.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSpsched.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSptilink.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSraspti.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSrdpdr.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERStermdd.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmouclass.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSswenum.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSupdate.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmssmbios.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversNDProxy.SYS Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DriversNDProxy.SYS central driver for running residential dsl Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSusbhub.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversnvapu.sys Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32Driverslbrtfdc.SYS Toshiba Libretto floppy controller Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32Driversi2omgmt.SYS I2O Utility Filter Not sure about this one... need more research Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DriversChanger.SYS SCSI CD-ROM Driver Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DriversCdaudio.SYS CD-ROM Audio Filter Driver Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversFs_Rec.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversNull.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversBeep.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32driversvga.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32Driversmnmdd.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSRDPCDD.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversInCDfs.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversInCDrec.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversMsfs.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversNpfs.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSrasacd.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSipsec.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERStcpip.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversaswTdi.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSnetbt.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32vsdatant.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32driversws2ifsl.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32driversafd.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSnetbios.sys Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSprocessr.sys Processor Device Driver Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DriversPCIDump.SYS cant find info on.... More research needed Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSredbook.sys Redbook Audio Filter Driver Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSrdbss.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmrxsmb.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSipnat.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSwanarp.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversFips.SYS Loaded driver ??C:Program Filesewidosecurity suiteguard.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversAavmker4.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSusbprint.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversLHidUsb.Sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSLHidFlt2.Sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmouhid.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSLMouFlt2.Sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversCdfs.SYS Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSrdbss.sys Redirected Drive Buffering SubSystem Driver Did not load driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmrxsmb.sys Windows NT SMB Minirdr Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSmrxdav.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversParVdm.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversaswMon2.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversDefrag32.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSsrv.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driverswdmaud.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driverssysaudio.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driverssplitter.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversaec.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversswmidi.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversDMusic.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driverskmixer.sys Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driversdrmkaud.sys Did not load driver SystemRootsystem32DRIVERSipnat.sys IP Network Address Translator Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversHTTP.sys Loaded driver SystemRootSystem32DriversaswRdr.SYS Loaded driver SystemRootsystem32driverskmixer.sys Whew.... I'm not sure if some of these need to be loaded or not, but it could be any one of them IF they are supposed to load. Have you had trouble burning cd's? Noted each with info on what they do or are.... EDIT: How do your event logs look? EDIT2: Check this out..... About the redbook.sys entry........ http://www.greatis.com/appdata/n/r/redbook.sys.htm Maybe the issue? Here is another troubleshooting tip I just found, if you want to try it. I believe you can add these thru the control panel>system icon then startup,..... add the following options to the BOOT.INI line: /noguiboot /sos /bootlog These turn off the graphical screen, display each driver as it loads, and save a bootlog to %WINDOWSntbtlog.txt I must sign off for now. Beddy-bye time :haha: Will be back tomorrow. Good luck and have a good evening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 15, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dude. Sorry bout that, my cable connection was lost for quite awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 16, 2005 CID Share Posted July 16, 2005 Thats good that the mouse is behaving itself. I'm takin gthe night off. Porbably hav another of those headaches tomorrow..... oh well.............. (extreme DT's ?) :haha: If you didn't try ms antispyware, give it a go. It's helping me with this pos hp I'm working on. I hate to say..... But, then again who better to clean a faulty, hacker available system up better than the company that wrote it? :haha: Have a good night and will be back tomorrow. EDIT: Being an idiot, I think, with the help of my brother, I figured out where the MS dude is going with the parallel install. If you do the install, the original will not have any running process. So, if it is a virsus, etc. you will be able to scan with impunity through the old installation, catching the bug. Won't help with registry issues (bad driver, etc.) but maybe the dude has a way to check that? Might want to inquire MS further on where he's going with the install, at least...... time to get :haha: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 16, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 16, 2005 Understood cak46. I guess I could use a break today myself. One long, boring post and I'll stop for the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 17, 2005 CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Understood cak46. I guess I could use a break today myself. One long, boring post and I'll stop for the night. I got rid of my nasty neck strain that I had EVERYDAY by getting a good pillow :idea: I think that was ultimately causing the weekend headaches. I will soon find out BTW: Last night I noticed that the 3rd (wheel) button mostly doesn't work as long as the error is on the screen :!: HMMMMMM, and today when I first booted up I decided to try the button to see if it was still true. Guess what happened?? About 1 minute after "desktop" I hit the button and the error went away :!: And I wasn't anywhere near the error(with the cursor) AND the machine did NOT reboot. HMMMMMMMMMMMX2. If you don't wait at least 5 min before clicking OK on the error it always reboots.Sooooooooooo I went back into my events and noticed the time between error popup and the "Human Interface Device Access" error(mouse maybe?), and it's 33 seconds. Now I know these events are acutally backwords if we want to blame the HID for causing the popup error, which would make good sense to me, BUT the popup is first and then the HID is 33 secs after. This is getting too wordy, sorry, but sometimes I don't even want to describe something cause it DOES get too wordy. Well food for thought? :roll: I did write MS last night and asked him about saving programs and settings, still waiting for reply Sorry, I didn't understand the ms antispyware you were talking about. BTW X2 PcRescue does NOT like my Logitech start-up reg entry at all. It comes up everytime I run the scan(as a Medium risk) BUT if I delete it, then I have a hell of a time getting it started. Tried that once. Not sure about that. Anyhow, this whole mess should make your head feel REAL GOOD :evil6: Oh, sorry. Hope you have(had) a good time tonight(last night) for sure. Cheers, Dave :wave: BTWX3 I just noticed that the popup error is NOT listed as an error but "info" instead, you know, no red X, just the icon with the i in the middle. I don't get that at all, and after all this time, I just now noticed it tonight Not too wordy at alll! I would say, dump the third party drivers, then the device, drop the 20 bucks of so and replace the mouse... At the least try the system for a while with the other mouse. ...... could be the pop up is being triggered first for some reason, maybe by the HID error, but it shows itself first thru the other program (process). Did you check logitech for an updated driver? Maybe the original driver is glitchy....... ( forgive me if I asked this before,, just too lazy to go back thru the thread to see.....) MS has a beta of antispyware out. Pretty good. I would suspect they are looking at entering the market. Here is the link. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Who better to clean up their stupid mistakes with their os other than the os manufacturer? :haha: Heads doin' ok. Hair of the dog........ How 'bout yours? Did the pillow do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hey Dude! Glad to hear you're OK. New pillow tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 17, 2005 CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hey Dude! Glad to hear you're OK. New pillow tonight It's a good one, too. Foam core, polyester on the outside. Anyhow, I did a thorough remove of my printer to start with. then I did the same with my mouse. Then reinstalled my other mouse and used it for while. Error came up on every boot. After awhile I put the other mouse back(can't live without it) Trouble is it cost $50 and I just don't think at this time that it's the culprit. :roll: Then I put the printer back in. I will check Logitech for any driver updates and try this MS link,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Might be a pain, but uninstall the mouse again, then reboot using f8 bootlogging then install new drivers for the other mouse then use bootlogging again after the replace to see if there are any difference. I don't hate your wheel mouse, its just a suspect in the case.... :haha: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well, I ran the MS Spyware Thingy. Results below. but didn't help. Looks like a good program. I will probably keep it if it stays free. My Trend Micro program is only a 14 day trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Might be a pain, but uninstall the mouse again, then reboot using f8 bootlogging then install new drivers for the other mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 17, 2005 CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 Go ahead and reboot, then run it again to see if they are gone. Got a sticky wicket on that hp POS that just refuses to comply. The disturbing thing is that it is finding more crap on your system. (Such as my situation with this HP.........) Bootlog: Scroll down and find the date and time that corrosponds with the boot you are interested in looking at. For example: Service Pack 2 7 14 2005 18:08:22.500 Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32ntoskrnl.exe Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32hal.dll Loaded driver WINDOWSsystem32KDCOM.DLL This is the last entry from your previous bootlog post Look for the part at the top (in boldfaced with the date and time you are interested in) and copy down to the next entry that shows the same information ('cept date and time, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2005 I just did some self teaching on my bootlog stuff and now it makes sense, I copied and pasted an example into notepad just for kicks. Tomorow I'll take out drivers, reboot with f8 and then put in other dirvers and reboot with f8 and compare. Headache is coming up fast so I'll sign off for now and post tomorrow. Hope that pillow works. Until then, Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 18, 2005 CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hope the headache didn't get too bad..... Sounds good with the replacement driver/mouse!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 18, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hey cak46. Jury is still out on the pillow. Had a headache when I got up today. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 18, 2005 CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hey cak46. Jury is still out on the pillow. Had a headache when I got up today. :( Went away, though. Now, here's the stuff about my 3 boots and the results. I fired up machine, then uninstalled the mouse and rebooted with f8. Then I saved and printed it out. Then after clearing out any left over shrapnel from the mouse, I rebooted with f8 and saved that too. Then after about an hour I put in my brand new(you're going to love this ) HP mouse :!: Ya, it's wireless no less. It's the only brand name at the store that looked legit enough. Besides it had a 3 button program so I didn't have to lose all my button functions(my Logi has 8 buttons, and I used them all) Then rebooted with f8 and saved that. The difference between all of these is minimal. First boot showed mouhid.sys loading 3 times and kmixer.sys loading twice. 2nd boot showed both loading once. Third boot showed the same with the exception of the 2 new mouse drivers>pelusblf.sys and pelmouse.sys. I sat here and manually went through every entry and checked them off 3 at a time so I wouldn't miss anything. BTW Same pos error. Man, I'm telling ya THIS thing MUST be giving me the headaches :roll: BTW I figured out the bootlog thing, just delete the previous ones and the log has just the one entry, only about 12 KB's each HP :haha: Did you plug the new mouse controller in the same port as the old? Also, what type of port is it? (USB, bus, serial) Might want to shut down and try a diifferent port if its USB. (One you have'nt used for the mouse before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 18, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Ok, I swapped out the port (usb) and will reboot now and see what happens That didn't do it. :crybaby2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 18, 2005 CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Ok, I swapped out the port (usb) and will reboot now and see what happens How'd it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 18, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 How'd it go? Ya know, I wonder if when I "ended task" in task mgr and got the doom just once and THEN got the error that it may have corrupted something that we haven't worked with at all. :I have reinstalled many of my utilities and also added some new ones. But I'm sure there are a few that I have not touched. Not that there was anything wrong with them in the first place, just maybe they got screwed up after my "stupid". Food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 18, 2005 CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Ya know, I wonder if when I "ended task" in task mgr and got the doom just once and THEN got the error that it may have corrupted something that we haven't worked with at all. :I have reinstalled many of my utilities and also added some new ones. But I'm sure there are a few that I have not touched. Not there was anything wrong with them in the first place, just maybe they got screwed up after my "stupid" Food for thought BTW if you missed my "modify" above changing ports didn't do any good Yup, missed it...... I looked back because I remembered something you had mentioned: If you don't wait at least 5 min before clicking OK on the error it always reboots.Sooooooooooo I went back into my events and noticed the time between error popup and the "Human Interface Device Access" error(mouse maybe?), and it's 33 seconds. Now I know these events are acutally backwords if we want to blame the HID for causing the popup error, which would make good sense to me, BUT the popup is first and then the HID is 33 secs after. Could it be part of the usb driver set instead of the mouse drivers? I'll have to look into removing and restoring this.... not sure whether it can be done successfully or not. Meanwhile, can you go into device manager and look at the hidden devices to see if there are any old usb devices listed which aren't hooked up now? (your old mouse, for example) If there are, go ahead and remove them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkkki Posted July 18, 2005 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yup, missed it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cak46 Posted July 18, 2005 CID Share Posted July 18, 2005 You just gave me an idea. Why not disable the mouse and pointing devices, then reboot to see if the error occurs with that disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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