6arett Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 "There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist (except maybe in Japan) religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second--3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a Poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting Santa himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of them, Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). 600,000 tons Traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance-this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to acceleration forces of 17,500 g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he,s dead now. Merry Christmas." Quoted from Steampowered forums. Sorry for the double posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 That's one way to crush the myth about Santa. I removed your other thread, since it was a double post anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepnklown Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 All that work to prove that a myth is a myth, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Matter Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 LOL Yes Santa is a myth ofcourse, but if he were real those calculations mean nothing. It's called magic something the scientific world has trouble with. It's like trying to put limitations on GOD. The creator can't be subject to the same laws and principles of his creation or he is not GOD. He has to be above them. Anyway Santa did all this with magic he was not bound by the rules of this earth. ON another note i know Santa is a myth, but i do believe in GOD 100%. Good Day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 how can you believe in go but not in santa. at least you see santa doing some good once a year while all you see in the news about god is earhquakes hurricanes tsunamis sashimi starvation plague etc. etc. as for santa: satan and santa are both said to wear red. they have the same letters in their names and they have never been seen together. coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 Ummm... didnt you know that the reindeer arent normal reindeer... THEY FLY FOR GOD SAKE... and also he has a magic bag thats like a hyper warp thing that he can put all he wants in it and it weighs nothing oh and he has the ability to stop time so he can take as long as he wants to deliver toys to all the little boys and girls he also has the powers of super man so he cant catch on fire..(so do the reindeer) theres.. hows that to bust your myth busting theory.. i think lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curveball1221 Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 Santa is far beyond our current technology. He has the ability to produce a contained wormhole in his bag which allows him to effectivly reach back to his workshop for whatever toy he wants. While he's at it, the sleighs mass and everything in it is converted into energy which allows him to move at the speed of light. This gives him plenty of time to slide down the chimney with his bag and bring me my GOD DAMN XBOX 360!! PS as for his age we all know that traveling at that speed the time dilation makes him far younger than he actually is. Santa exist I see him in the mall every year.... just try to argue with that logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted December 16, 2005 CID Share Posted December 16, 2005 Heh me and curvebeball know whats up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6arett Posted December 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Lol I didnt write it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Ah my friend, but you posted it meaning either you agree with it/ you think its obserred and wanted every one to get a good laugh/ your spamming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Santa is too real, I have his fax number, phone number and e-mail, and he just text messaged me and said he's crossing you all off his list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Hey, not all of us... two of us here including me..were DEFENDING HIM so were gettin some good gifts unlike the non believers who are getting COAL AND A COMPUTER VIRUS LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 with energy prices nowadays that fat lump of coal from santa will buy me 2 xboxes. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 to bad some of that information is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotmilk Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 PS as for his age we all know that traveling at that speed the time dilation makes him far younger than he actually is. Technically, it makes him age faster, which means he's far older than his age in our years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan314 Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Haha reso is sooo right, everyone should be naughty and get some coal.. then sell it on ebay lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 slower. at relativistic (speeds close enough to C to matter) you experience less time passing than an oberver traveling slower than you. if i circle you at C for a year you will have aged a year while i will have experienced no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Matter Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 I really should not have said St.Nicholas was a myth because there was such a man. http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotmilk Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Wait, never mind, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 does santa use regular dugup coal or does he use magically created SantaCoal ? if the latter, kicking your dog once a day could solve the worlds energy crisis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6arett Posted December 17, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Prolly SantaCoal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Since Santa Claus or anyone of the other names he is called are not in the Bible he should not be part of the Christian celebration of Christmas or Jesus Christ's birth.I celebrate Christmas but do not include Santa Claus in this. There are other pagan traditions that have been added by the early Catholic church mostly to entice pagans to join the church.This should not have been done. The generally accepted date for Christmas we use now was probably taken from the date of the winter solstice. For Christians we should celebrate Jesus's birth everyday. If asked by a child about Santa I tell them this is for their parents to explain to them.So far this has worked .For an adult usually a look of disdain works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotmilk Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 As for me, I believe santa claus was as we think of him now was an invetion of the Coca-Cola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted December 17, 2005 CID Share Posted December 17, 2005 Here are some Santa Claus( St. Nicholas) facts: 4th century: There are two main, incompatible belief systems about St. Nicholas: Among Roman Catholics and conservative Protestants, there is a near universal belief that St. Nicholas of Bari once lived in Asia Minor, and died in either 345 or 352 CE. The Catholic Information Network speculates that he was probably born in Patara in the province of Myra in Asia Minor; this is apparently based on the belief that he later became bishop of Myra in Lycia (now Turkey). 8. He is alleged to have attended the first council of Nicea; however, his name does not appear on lists of attending bishops. He is honored as a Patron Saint in Austria, Belgium, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Russia, Sicily, and Switzerland. 2 He is also considered the patron saint of children and sailors. Many legends and miracles are attributed to him: When he was an infant, his mother only nursed him on Wednesdays and Fridays; he fasted the remaining days. He halted a storm at sea in order to save three drowning sailors. During his lifetime, he adored children and often threw gifts anonymously into the windows of their homes. His father left him a fortune which he used to help poor children. He grabbed the sword of an executioner to save the life of a political prisoner. He brought back to life several children who had been killed. Most religious historians and experts in folklore believe that there is no valid evidence to indicate that St. Nicholas ever existed as a human. In fact, there are quite a few indicators that his life story was simply recycled from those of Pagan gods. Many other ancient Pagan gods and goddesses were similarly Christianized in the early centuries of the Church. His legends seems to have been mainly created out of myths attributed to the Greek God Poseidon, the Roman God Neptune, and the Teutonic God Hold Nickar. "In the popular imagination [of many Russians] he became the heir of Mikoula, the god of harvest, 'who will replace God, when God becomes too old.' " 8 When the church created the persona of St. Nicholas, they adopted Poseidon's title "the Sailor." They seem to have picked up his last name from Nickar. Various temples of Poseidon became shrines of St. Nicholas. 1 "In medieval England... in tiny sea ports we find the typical little chapel built on an eminence and looking out to sea." 8 St. Nicholas also adopted some of the qualities of "The Grandmother" or Befana from Italy. She was said to have filled children's stockings with gifts. Her shrine at Bari was also converted into a shrine to St. Nicholas. The Christian church created a fictional life history for St. Nicholas. He was given the name Hagios Nikolaos (a.k.a. St. Nicholas of Myra). 10th century: The Christian author Metaphrastes collected and wrote many traditional legends about St. Nicholas. 11th century: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that during the Muslim invasion of Asia Minor, his remains were transferred to Bari in Italy, where he became known as Nicholas of Bari. 19th century: St. Nicholas was superseded in much of Europe by Christkindlein, the Christ child, who delivered gifts in secret to the children. He traveled with a dwarf-like helper called Pelznickel (a.k.a. Belsnickle) or with St. Nicholas-like figures. Eventually, all three were combined into the image that we now know as Santa Claus. "Christkindlein" became Kriss Kringle. Before the communist revolution, large numbers of Russian Orthodox pilgrims came to Bari to visit St Nicholas' tomb. "He and St Andrew the apostle are the patrons of Russia." 8 Present day: Throughout many countries in Europe, St. Nicholas/Santa distributes gifts to the children on DEC-5, the eve of his feast day. In some countries, the gifts come at another time during Advent or on Christmas eve. In Germany, Weinachtsmann (Christmas man) is a helper of the Christkind (Christ Child) In France, P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotmilk Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 1920's: The image of Santa had been standardized to portray a bearded, over-weight, jolly man dressed in a red suit with white trim. 5 1931: Haddon Sundblom, illustrator for The Coca-Cola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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