HelpThisHobo Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 i've searched all over the internet through many websites and forums and i can't seem to find a solution to the ridiculous lag that i've been getting in all online games that i've been playing. but this forum seems to have many knowledged people and many others who have similar problems. Please! won't somebody help me. I'm not quite sure what my problem is, browser speeds and file downloads speeds through programs like azureus and bearshare and such are fine. i don't seem to have any real speed problems there. but when i play games like WoW, Battlefield 2 and even halo 2 xbox live i get all kinds of uncontrollable lag. (like 500-1000 ping in battlefield, 1000-5000 ping in WoW and constant red latency in halo) I've tried using cablenut and other optimizing programs but they don't seem to be any help. these problems began to occur after i moved to my new house and started forwarding my router for downloads. i'm open to all suggestions i'm desperate, i'm not that familiar with networking lingo so bare with me. i've provided some of my information let me know if anyone needs anything else. isp provider: rogers cable advertised speed: err.. i'm not sure regular? -using a linksys WRK54G wireless router, hooked up to my computer, my brothers and my xbox -using windows xp System Specs: Compaq Celeron 1400 mHz 512 mb ram 40 GB harddrive ADMtek AN983 10/100 PCI Ethernet Adapter nVidia Geforce 6600gt -pretty sure specs don't really affect internet speed but just incase Just incase someone thinks it's because my computer is too slow to play these games and that's why i lag, it's not the case because i worked fine before at my old home. i'm hoping this isn't some kind of location issue. Any tips and advice someone can give me would be greatly appreciated. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 478 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 58 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Mon Dec 19 03:56:30 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 9X faster than 56K 1MB download in 17.66 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 16.23 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-5BU413RL0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepnklown Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 At 500Kbps I can see why you are lagging. Hook up your modem directly to your system and run a speed test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 some ports may be being blocked. Check your router settings and see if there is a "Gaming Mode" or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 Or stick your PC in the DMZ, and test it...See if your pings are any better..If it works fine in the DMZ, then most likely you don't have all the ports forwarded properly.. Plus you could use more ram...512mb Ram is a little low for BF2 online...It will work, but you probably are stretching your resources.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 19, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 this is the new tests with my cable modem directly connected to my computer :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 808 Kbps about 0.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 99 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Mon Dec 19 15:13:53 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 14X faster than 56K 1MB download in 10.34 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 27.43 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Connection is:: 386 Kbps about 0.4 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 47 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server1) Test Time:: Mon Dec 19 15:17:28 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 7X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 21.79 sec Diagnosis: Looks Great : 9.35 % faster than the average for host (rogers.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-OAFQ9B3U7 i forgot to mention that i use to use forwarded options with a static ip on my network but i figured that could have been the problem so i reverted all my settings to their originals settings that my connection use to work fine at. So everythings at obtain ip addresses automatically and turned off all my forwarded ports. and pardon my newbieness.. but what's a DMZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 19, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 oh.. and i know my computer specs are kinda poopy but everything use to work absolutely fine 20-40 ping on bf2, and unfortunately 512 mb ram is as far as my crudddy compaq will let me go oh woe is me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 19, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 2242 Kbps about 2.2 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 274 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Mon Dec 19 17:32:03 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 40X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.74 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 76.13 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-UKVZNIORX this is a recent test with my modem directly connected to my computer i seems to be fluctuating... i'll post another test with my router connected in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 19, 2005 CID Share Posted December 19, 2005 DMZ is the De-Militarized Zone (check under security or gaming area of your router) It will allow your pc to be fully open to the internet(therefore creating some security risks), but also will allow all ports, so you can elimintate ports being blocked as the problem. If you haven't done so yet, check your modem signal levels...Because if your signal levels are too low, there is nothing you can do to your pc to help... Just make sure the levels are within range..Possibly you have a bad connection at the pole or the block coming into the house... There was a wire on the pole here for my neighbors that was completely broke all the way through, but the wire was still touching, so they had tv/cable(but they said tv got fuzzy all the time)..While they were looking at my fitting, my neighbors fitting fell to the ground..(at which point the neighbors came out wondering why the tv went to fuzz)...Long story short, they changed their fitting on the pole, and the next day my neighbor came over and said his cable was all of a sudden 2x as fast...All because of a bad connection... You say this happened after you moved...Possibly its a problem in your area, and you may need to contact your provider to help troubleshoot... If they have free tech support, have them come check the fittings at the pole, and at the block on the house.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuworm Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 Read the post below and if you haven't done any tweaking this should help' http://www.testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=10229.0 compuworm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 I have Rogers too and I get around 2.8mbps on the 3mbps package constant with DMZ turned on.. Ping's are like 40-50ms but I can live with that (I don't gave that much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 I have Rogers too and I get around 2.8Mbps on the 3Mbps package constant with DMZ turned on.. Ping's are like 40-50ms but I can live with that (I don't gave that much) I used to have Optonline 10000/1000, and I still lagged and had ping problems.. Verizon offered us 30000/5000 for like $4 more a month...So glad we switched... My pings that were say 50..are now like 10 and below...(makes up for my old man reflexes..) No more lag..Now I can't blame it on my connection lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKeith Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 do u any chance have ur puter wireless??? because if u do, u might could be haveing a packet loss are just a bad wireless conn. also with that big of of a variance in speed, that could also cause some lag, I had a similar problem, could game during the day and was fine and at night couldnt game at all because my ping would get me kicked, so i started tracing my pings to my server that i played on and took that to my ISP and told them here was my problem( im in MS and problem was in Texas) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 20, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 147 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 18 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Tue Dec 20 02:31:39 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB download in 56.89 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 4.99 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-461HMTXV8 sigh... there's another test with my cable connected to my router... seems there's issues with my router.. : ive tried the cablenut tweaking and it had little to no effect. i'm not sure how to check my modem signal strengths but the cable throughtout my house works fine and all the leds a lighting correctly. i've checked my router settings and i can't find anything that resembles a DMZ option. i have an option called block wan requests.. and i turned that off is that DMZ? yes. i have a wireless router but my brothers computer is using the wireless usb device, mine is still using a direct connection to the router through an ethernet cable. poopscicles.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 147 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 97 kB) Download Speed is:: 18 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Tue Dec 20 02:31:39 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB download in 56.89 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 4.99 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-461HMTXV8 sigh... there's another test with my cable connected to my router... seems there's issues with my router.. : ive tried the cablenut tweaking and it had little to no effect. i'm not sure how to check my modem signal strengths but the cable throughtout my house works fine and all the leds a lighting correctly. i've checked my router settings and i can't find anything that resembles a DMZ option. i have an option called block wan requests.. and i turned that off is that DMZ? yes. i have a wireless router but my brothers computer is using the wireless usb device, mine is still using a direct connection to the router through an ethernet cable. poopscicles.. There should be an option that directly says DMZ.. Anything else without DMZ is not it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKeith Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 have u tried to do any gaming when u are not pluged up into the router? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 20, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 speed tests and gaming seem to be better when my modem is directly connected to my computer. I just did a speed test with my brothers computer though, he's hooked up through the routers wireless adapter... and voila.. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Connection is:: 1758 Kbps about 1.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 215 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (server2) Test Time:: Tue Dec 20 11:39:53 EST 2005 Bottom Line:: 31X faster than 56K 1MB download in 4.76 sec Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 59.65 % of your hosts average (rogers.com) what the heck... why am i getting around 4X 56k when he's getting 31X 56k? BUGGER! -booo.. my router doesn't seem to have a DMZ option i could post my router settings screens if you'd like.. can i copy paste images into my posts in these forums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 Post what kind of router it is(model), and you can post some screenshots... Its probably in there, just under a submenu, that you missed... If you had problems after screwing with the router, you can also reset router to default(any changes you made will have to be redone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKeith Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 i think ur problem is in the router, maybe the config got screwed up somehow are something has happened, ur brother that is wireless is faster then ur puter when u are wired, sounds like something got messed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 20, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 i posted in my first post, my router is a Linksys WRK54G wireless-g 2.4GHZ broadband router. I've reseted my router many times because sometimes i find that my internet seems to lock up and stop working every once in a while that forces me to reset the router to start it going again. i've posted links to some screens of the main tab of my router settings: http://www.geocities.com/crimson006/r.GIF my applications/gaming tab: http://www.geocities.com/crimson006/r2.GIF and my security tab: http://www.geocities.com/crimson006/r.GIF if you guys wanna see any of the other tabs let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 http://www.geocities.com/crimson006/r2.GIF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKeith Posted December 20, 2005 CID Share Posted December 20, 2005 this is a long shot, but u have hooked the puter straight to the modem, try it again and use the other cat5 cable this time and lets rule out the cable as being the problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 21, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 21, 2005 oh doh.. ok i found the dmz option and it's disabled.. it's supposed to be disabled right? if it's supposed to be enabled what ip do i put in under DMZ Host IP Address? my computers? hm.. i'm not so sure about the router resetting but i'll push the button, cause i usually just unplug it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 21, 2005 CID Share Posted December 21, 2005 oh doh.. ok i found the dmz option and it's disabled.. it's supposed to be disabled right? if it's supposed to be enabled what ip do i put in under DMZ Host IP Address? my computers? hm.. i'm not so sure about the router resetting but i'll push the button, cause i usually just unplug it. With router connected- Open your network connections, right click on the network connection you are using and click 'status', then on top right, click 'Support', then choose 'details'. This will show you your physical address(mac address), IP Address, Subnet, Gateway, etc.. Depending on the router, you may have the option to place pc's in the DMZ using Mac Address, or by IP address...I prefer Mac Address, but if you don't have that option, just use the IP Address you find under status. Enable the DMZ, and your pc should now be in the DMZ, and all port forwarding problems should be resolved..(note you are now open to the internet, and lose the firewall capabilities of the router). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpThisHobo Posted December 22, 2005 Author CID Share Posted December 22, 2005 i found some firmware for my router i'm not quite sure yet if it's newer than the one i currently have. but the damn files in bin format, and i believe you virtually mount bins and then burn to use right? or just use it right off the virtual drive? but i can't seem to get it to work, burning doesn't work and i can't play it from my virtual drive using alcohol or daemon... anyone know how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltageman Posted December 22, 2005 CID Share Posted December 22, 2005 i found some firmware for my router i'm not quite sure yet if it's newer than the one i currently have. but the damn files in bin format, and i believe you virtually mount bins and then burn to use right? or just use it right off the virtual drive? but i can't seem to get it to work, burning doesn't work and i can't play it from my virtual drive using alcohol or daemon... anyone know how? Normally you uprgrade firmware through the router itself...There should be a section in the router to update it...It will ask you to locate the file(same as doing an attachment here), then it will load the new firmware.(some have option to search for new firmware also). Log into the router. Its under one of the menus..(mine is under tools/firmware for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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