fred Posted June 14, 2006 CID Share Posted June 14, 2006 I am at a point in time that requires me to dispose of the old and acquire the new, as in mother board. I have an old case and peripherals which will do quite well if the new mobo will fit. I read about 64 bit AMD's so on and so forth, however I am not really sure which way to go! I do know that I want more ram and more processing power, as in dual core. There is one more problem that I was made aware of and that is with Mr. Gates and company and that is when you change boards the hard drive thinks it is being screwed and you have to get intouch with Microsoft and give them the numbers that you installed your OP with and make them aware that you are changing mobo's. I want to keep my hard drive and OP/sys, if that is possible. What I have now is a 1.7 gig processor speed and a P/4 processor (which I will have to change) with 512 meg's of RAM I don't know what the front side buss is but it needs to be up there also. If some good person out there could give me instructions on what to do I would be forever grateful Thanks Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 the following setup is a bomb if you can shell out the money and if you love playing with/configuring ur computer 1) dfi sli-dr expert motherboard 2) amd opteron 165 dual core processor 3) 2gb ram ....these are the 3 main components i wouldnt be shy on when spending the $ ...they offer great performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilatedpeoples28 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 if u switch to amd ur gonna need a new mother board and either a new hard drive or ur gonna have to reformat the one u have now. You dont have to call microsoft or anything like that. Also a budget would be helpful as we could recomend certain hardware to fit ur budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 I would definately go with the DFI Lanparty mobo and 2 gb is a must these days with vista coming soon. Also the AMD64 processors are real nice. Opteron is also nice but more $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 personally i would not be buying or even thinking about buying any processors or motherboard right now, because its all going to change once conroe comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 i honestly doubt that ..... all those benchies showing the conroe out are controlled environment benchmarks....not really accurate - it is unreal thinking that either amd or intel would be behind each other in this cpu war - they are both pretty much on the same page at all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilatedpeoples28 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 he might have been as in price which one site says it will ALOT http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1779_large_full_pricing.png those prices are to compensate for the conroe release, the prices are crazy!!! 3800 x2 for $170!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 he might have been as in price which one site says it will ALOT http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1779_large_full_pricing.png those prices are to compensate for the conroe release, the prices are crazy!!! 3800 x2 for $170!!! whoa dang i would definately wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 they are both pretty much on the same page at all times intel and amd have never even been close to being on the same page with there processors. its not even funny how far off they have both been for the last 3 years. Intel had there huge fat pipeline, amd had there nice and shot pipeline, amd had small amounts of cache, intel had hugh amounts of cache. Intel finally got there head out of there ass and realized that clock speed is not the answer. and now they got this insanely fast low wattage, low heat processor, while amd is going for this high wattage very hot setup that will come out after conroe. so they have always been a different page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 Yeah the clock speeds are way different between the two processors. But unfourtanely most of the public look at the clock speeds to determine which processor is better. I also think the pr rating that AMD used confused a lot of people including me until i finally understood that there is a huge pipeline size difference. Ive had many friends that asked me how fast my processor was i would say 1.5ghz(AMD athlon xp 1800) and they would say o my celeron at 1.9ghz can kill that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 15, 2006 Author CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 This kind of info really helps out a lot, and I do appreciate all of the info that is going on in this thread. My PC is on the fringes of shooting craps. and I do not know how much longer it will last me. I was looking in the $500.00 range with all of the goodies I have now, however all of my memory and processor and board will have to be compatible and also upgraded to today's standards and I am not really sure what that is anymore. Got into PC's @ the end of win 95 and educated myself in win 98 up, hopefully with this additional info we can get a little more on the same page and discuss this build a little more Thank's Fred:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGOKURULES Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 You can always try ebay for more cheaper parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 You can always try ebay for more cheaper parts. ebay is not the best place to by just flat parts off of. its OK to buy a prebuilt system, but not just parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGOKURULES Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 What are you saying, I built my system buying every part, "but my case" off of ebay. Most sellers have actual stores that they own and want to branch out to a wider consumer so they sell on ebay. and I'm talking NEW PARTS TOO. I'm a buyer/seller for ebay... Don;t knock it if u don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 There is a good possibility of the parts being broken on ebay and it could be very difficult to get a return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 FGOKURULES ive bought alot of computer parts off ebay and then when i get it its not what they say it was or it doesnt work becuase it wasent shiped correctly. its not the best thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGOKURULES Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 Why would you buy a used part if your building A Brand New System? and that's why they use rating systems so Don;t buy from someone who is rated as a low rated seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 Why would you buy a used part if your building A Brand New System? and that's why they use rating systems so Don;t buy from someone who is rated as a low rated seller. i didnt say they were used. and i dont buy from anyone that has less then a 25 feed back score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGOKURULES Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 Just like u know Spyware when you see it on the net.. It;s the same when buying... know what ur doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted June 15, 2006 CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 my friend if you want my advice here it goes if u got some money wait for conroe to come out and buy one of those babies they are quick yeah i have seen the benchmarks you have seen guys but i have them here in the lab next to me and yeah they are quick guys. but if you dont have much money then conroe will be too expensive for you wait till it comes out so they drop the prices in the old models and buy a dual core of an old model would still be better then what you have just my 2 cents in terms of CPU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 15, 2006 Author CID Share Posted June 15, 2006 Thanks guy's this is all helpful info and am looking forward to building a new system this conroe makes my dress :haha:flyup and am going to do some research on the conroe, but being new I hope it will not be infested with all kind of (bugs) if you know what I mean. With it being new and all it may take a couple of years to work them out before perfection is achieved!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tstillery Posted June 16, 2006 CID Share Posted June 16, 2006 Don't forget a new PS at least a 500watt and new ram 1 gig would be nice and video card i don't think your old stuff will be compatable with the new mobo but it might be. jmho tstillery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted June 16, 2006 CID Share Posted June 16, 2006 what components you want will depend a lot on what you will be using the computer for - if you are using it for gaming, by all means please go with 2gb of ram - 1gb is enough but 2gb really makes the system go - and the power supply will totally depend on what you will be powering and how stable of a system you want - research your components, visit some forums, read some diy guides to see if those parts work well together - there are so many incompatibilies when it comes to computer system even if it seems they might work together - its mostly about memory not being compatible with a certain motherboard or something similar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted June 16, 2006 CID Share Posted June 16, 2006 when the duo2 comes out the prices for the p4s will hit rock bottom. intel will have amd by the balls in the high end market and will try to hurt them in amds core market (low cost) too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 16, 2006 Author CID Share Posted June 16, 2006 Yes by all means I will research the compatibility issues and especially the power supply and the memory, front side bus speeds, and so on and so forth, that conroe sure looks nice and is reasonably priced @ 250.00 bucks that will allow for a lot of extra goodies and I have gone to other forums like extreme OC and the PSU forum for power supplies also went back to the site I bought my last mobo @ and checked some of their newer equipment also but the input that I am receiving here sure is helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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