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I switched from Wildblue to Hughes at the first of the year because they have there pings capped. If anyone is getting 900 ms pings I am not sure how because the last I knew the best anyone could get was around 1100  and stayed closer to 1500 to 3000 for me. If you are not going to be using secure sights or any gaming or VPN where lag matters then you would do good with wildblue. Otherwise you are better off with hughes. If you do switsh to wildblue go with you local electric coop if possible to get it and not through Wildblue themselves as the customer service will usually be much better that way. Also I have been reading about alot of good experiances with people going through Dish Network to get set up.

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Satelite is satelite, pretty much. It is impossible to overcome it's problems. It will always have lag.  :evil2:

Lag is not a problem with satellite but a fact.Sending a ping twice around the earth would be close to the lag of satellite and the distance involved so the shortest lag is a straight line as always. What happens is this is combined with other factors, poor aiming may be #1 but one must not forget internet traffic that nobody has control over. From one second to the next, different congestion every time, many factors apply to lag and speed variations.  :shocked:

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Lag is not a problem with satellite but a fact.Sending a ping twice around the earth would be close to the lag of satellite and the distance involved so the shortest lag is a straight line as always. What happens is this is combined with other factors, poor aiming may be #1 but one must not forget internet traffic that nobody has control over. From one second to the next, different congestion every time, many factors apply to lag and speed variations.  :shocked:

Yes but Wildblue's lag is mostly because of a new traffic shaping they are using called DAMA. Like we are talking I went to bed with high 500 to low 600ms pings and woke up with 1100 to 3000+ pings. What he was pointing out is Hughesnet actually gets better pings than Wildblue.

Pinging yahoo.com [216.109.112.135] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1153ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1263ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1612ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1247ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1167ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1180ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1201ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1286ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=2521ms TTL=47

Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=1210ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 216.109.112.135:

    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 1153ms, Maximum = 2521ms, Average = 1384ms

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Aye that is what I was trying to explain. Here is an example of my pings but keep in mind my service plan and dish because alot on the residential plans can add about 100 to 150 ms to my pings usually on Hughes.

Pinging www.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=726ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Reply from 69.147.114.210: bytes=32 time=706ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 69.147.114.210:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 706ms, Maximum = 726ms, Average = 711ms

Pinging www.pcpitstop.com [64.29.201.21] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=687ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=704ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=674ms TTL=236

Reply from 64.29.201.21: bytes=32 time=714ms TTL=236

Ping statistics for 64.29.201.21:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 674ms, Maximum = 714ms, Average = 694ms

Pinging www.testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=769ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=677ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=708ms TTL=49

Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=698ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85:

    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 677ms, Maximum = 769ms, Average = 713ms

Sorry I couldnt for the life of me remember how to set up a long ping string so I just did 3 short ones. That is what I get 24/7 and have since I switched back but I see alot of pings from other peeps on hughes residential plans with the smaller disthat run from 800 to 1000 ms pings with their avrages running usually close to 850 to 900.

Also please note that I am not saying Hughes is better than wildblue any longer. Most Hughes customers no longer see peak time slowdowns either anymore and thus get their package speeds or close usually and the pings are better and they have the new fap free time but at the same rate Wildblue is cheaper, gets very good speeds as well and has a higher fap limit stretched out over the rolling month which makes it a bit easier on some. And both have rotten customer service or used to anyhow if you are using wildblue and not coops. If you using coops you just got an unfair advantage  :2funny: :2funny: J/K.

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