tommie gorman Posted September 23, 2009 CID Share Posted September 23, 2009 I feel sorry for those that feel so superior to those who do not have gained knowledge yet about satelite service. But thats the masses and how they learn. And yes its unfair for them to be deceived. Lying is not the way to sale anything for real. So to say .... If a user was that delusional about Internet access, then they probably shouldn't be on here. A quick search on Wikipedia will tell you what you won't and will expect on satellite. Too bad they weren't that "smart" to research, but smart enough to believe everything someone tells them or reads. is an injustice forreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted October 24, 2009 CID Share Posted October 24, 2009 Even without looking at the WildBlue BBB rating.....lets take a look at WB actual speeds. Lets see some WB users post some speed test done all different times of the day.......not just early AM hours. uploads and downloads and state what service plan your on. From what I have thus far.....the majority of WB users will not run test during evening hours at all.......? whats to hide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micwa1 Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, well, well.... :::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 16520 Kbps about 16.5 Mbps (tested with 25600 kB) Download Speed is:: 2017 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main) Test Time:: 2009/11/12 - 1:43am Bottom Line:: 288X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.51 sec Tested from a 25600 kB file and took 12.695 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1783.69 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-4AWXUKCJ8 User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2b2) Gecko/20091108 Firefox/3.6b2 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, well, well.... :::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::::::::: Download Connection is:: 16520 Kbps about 16.5 Mbps (tested with 25600 kB) Download Speed is:: 2017 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main) Test Time:: 2009/11/12 - 1:43am Bottom Line:: 288X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.51 sec Tested from a 25600 kB file and took 12.695 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1783.69 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-4AWXUKCJ8 User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2b2) Gecko/20091108 Firefox/3.6b2 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) You can't be serious, is this even possible with satellite ? I mean the public access of it, not military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, well, well.... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Download Connection is:: 16520 Kbps about 16.5 Mbps (tested with 25600 kB) Download Speed is:: 2017 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main) Test Time:: 2009/11/12 - 1:43am Bottom Line:: 288X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.51 sec Tested from a 25600 kB file and took 12.695 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1783.69 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-4AWXUKCJ8 User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2b2) Gecko/20091108 Firefox/3.6b2 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) Believing your getting that speed is even more azzn9 than telling WildBlue customers not to use or test during peak usage hours. Keep working with the "scientist".....the truth is yet to be revealed. NOTE: dont forget to sign out when testing during peak hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalternate Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 I've seen that glitch before with the satellite Internet providers(across some various speed test sites). Have not looked into why it happens. Maybe the proxy server of the satellite Internet provider causes it? Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 12:46:08 am DN 3072 kB 1062 Kbps (130 kB/s) Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 12:43:10 am DN 25600 kB 16520 Kbps (2017 kB/s) micwa1 Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 12:40:55 am DN 25600 kB 17530 Kbps (2140 kB/s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 Those with a sat connection mind disclosing what there average, reality test scores are ? I would like to get an idea of just what the bandwidth is. I have a seriously difficult time believing this is a true speed, I'm looking t it from a cache viewpoint as well zalternate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micwa1 Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 It's through the proxy Propel (and no that's not an accurate speed, just a glitch). See here: http://wildblueworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2867. Propel is an accelerator that we are so hoping WIldBlue starts to test it and use it for its customers. It would save on bandwidth (because it compresses data) and faster speed. You all know what my speeds are with wildblue, so there is no point in doing a daily or hourly test on here to further fuel some people's agenda. Satellite currently doesn't ever have a CONSISTENT speed, and thus it would be silly to expect more. Thank you. ::::::::::.. Download Stats ..:::::::::: Download Connection is:: 1074 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 131 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main) Test Time:: 2009/11/12 - 2:59pm Bottom Line:: 19X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 7.82 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 7.726 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 22.46 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-BT2380GMY User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) w:PACBHO60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalternate Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 http://www.propel.com/technology/index.html With some of these bloated picture webpages, you could actually kill the graphics with the program. JPegs can't be compressed, unless the image is modified before it gets sent to the user and is more pixilated. I was on dialup for a few minutes the other day when I needed a setting for my just flashed DSL modem, and even the 'Google image' loaded real slow. 26Kbps is so blazingly slow now a days. But many webpages have such bloated code. It's like some of these programmers just keep adding to the code instead of making fresh copies every so often. I see FireFox has an Add-On, for text only webpages. I don't know if it downloads as text only though. A future fix maybe, if enough people ask for it.. http://techshali.com/get-text-only-version-of-a-web-page-with-textise-0-1/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=Textise+0.1&cat=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micwa1 Posted November 12, 2009 CID Share Posted November 12, 2009 Just from 5 days of using the free trail (keep in mind that I have had it on and off during browsing, and I have the option to compress the graphics off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted November 13, 2009 CID Share Posted November 13, 2009 Here's just a little bit of my 80%. Its just abit off the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted November 13, 2009 CID Share Posted November 13, 2009 Its off the mark Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 8:50:03 pm UP 386 kB 122 kbps (15 kB/s) generallee76 688746221973 wildblue.net WSVE92O6M IMG Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 8:49:06 pm DN 512 kB 291 kbps (36 kB/s) generallee76 688746221973 wildblue.net 48EB1RXM3 IMG Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 4:26:43 pm UP 386 kB 133 kbps (16 kB/s) generallee76 9096703448 wildblue.net JQ2OAX7WM IMG Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 4:25:59 pm DN 1024 kB 676 kbps (83 kB/s) generallee76 9096703448 wildblue.net EFMT1P8HI IMG Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 9:34:19 am UP 386 kB 85 kbps (10 kB/s) generallee76 688746221973 wildblue.net 609LWI8SX IMG Thu Nov 12 2009 @ 9:33:19 am DN 1024 kB 988 kbps (121 kB/s) generallee76 68876307104 wildblue.net LUHJQ1SKD IMG Wed Nov 11 2009 @ 9:43:20 pm UP 386 kB 124 kbps (15 kB/s) generallee76 688746221973 wildblue.net MH2PN5EXL IMG Wed Nov 11 2009 @ 9:42:31 pm DN 512 kB 461 kbps (56 kB/s) generallee76 9096703448 wildblue.net 71K4VD9FB IMG Now here is just abit of your 80% sorry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted November 14, 2009 CID Share Posted November 14, 2009 It's through the proxy Propel (and no that's not an accurate speed, just a glitch). See here: http://wildblueworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2867. Propel is an accelerator that we are so hoping WIldBlue starts to test it and use it for its customers. It would save on bandwidth (because it compresses data) and faster speed. You all know what my speeds are with wildblue, so there is no point in doing a daily or hourly test on here to further fuel some people's agenda. Satellite currently doesn't ever have a CONSISTENT speed, and thus it would be silly to expect more. Thank you. :::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::::::::: Download Connection is:: 1074 Kbps about 1.1 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 131 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Main) Test Time:: 2009/11/12 - 2:59pm Bottom Line:: 19X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 7.82 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 7.726 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 22.46 % faster than the average for host (wildblue.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-BT2380GMY User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) w:PACBHO60 Looks as if "propel" could actually start something "web wide". I remember back oh I dunno, around 18 years ago I had dial up for my first service. It was a company which I believe is still in business call Juno, basically email and shiat like that, we had an "accelerator" that just blocked the pics, so all you would get was the text. If you adjusted the connection settings now called "tweaking " enough, you could most of the time get 40-50 K, but in actuality, you weren't getting that. Cache was a huge thing to be aware of then, huge. But disk space was as big a problem. If not bigger because things (data transmission ) grew exponentially, thus DSL. Anyhow, just think if all pages older then one day were automatically cached, (just the text ) which is much of the time all were after in any situation , which takes up a small fraction of the crap filled pages were served each time we hit a link, coupled with layers of security, and tracking from several dozen "interested parties" and so on. So you get what need, then if you chose bysettings , that you would like to see all those pretty colors and ad's blah blah, then with todays line quality for the most part, everyone could do what there doing now, minus the billion lines of code that streams constantly in and out of the modem, (in the name of correct data flow or docsis ) with say around 100-200 KB of bandwidth, and t would be laser fast. But that wont happen until people start thinking about getting what they want now, instead of those that are in charge of selling bandwidth, and precious space on web pages to feed there need for a dream life on a beach . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted November 15, 2009 CID Share Posted November 15, 2009 I know and understand that Wild Blue s**ks as it is currently set. I feel they could do more to help the with the performance of their system (speeds) and it seems to affect different parts of the country, but not all?. I realize that the bounce time, mine is on average 1075ms will never get any better and thats part of the problem. I have tried using Fire Fox, Internet Explorer and Google Chrome. I have found that when using Google Chrome it runs faster but the afternoon slowdowns are still hell. I'm not really sure that this Propel accelerator will do me any good for the money. SO if you are looking at Satellite for internet look elsewhere. I took Tommys advise and tried using AT&T and Verizon's wireless networks and they still rendered me nothing more than what I have currently via Satellite. Throw their coverage maps out the door, they are not accurate. So to the much more advanced than I out there what about that Propel?????? Or anything else?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalternate Posted November 15, 2009 CID Share Posted November 15, 2009 A note about those cellular based home wireless Internet cards, is if you have a modern house with low 'E' windows, as it can partly block the signal. Same goes for metal siding. If at all possible request a outdoor unit. Or if it is just a stick, get a good USB cable and then you can manipulate it. Or even the tin can booster antenna. Some people have become quite creative with them. Making all sorts of remote towers to get a good signal on a larger property with hills in the way of the signal. But if the cell tower is too far away, you is screwed. A post I read on another forum , the user now has Millenicom and a mesh dish for the antenna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted November 15, 2009 CID Share Posted November 15, 2009 A note about those cellular based home wireless Internet cards, is if you have a modern house with low 'E' windows, as it can partly block the signal. Same goes for metal siding. If at all possible request a outdoor unit. Or if it is just a stick, get a good USB cable and then you can manipulate it. Or even the tin can booster antenna. Some people have become quite creative with them. Making all sorts of remote towers to get a good signal on a larger property with hills in the way of the signal. But if the cell tower is too far away, you is screwed. A post I read on another forum , the user now has Millenicom and a mesh dish for the antenna. Be the same as getting a signal in a basement. I use a truckers antennae and cable down to here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted November 16, 2009 CID Share Posted November 16, 2009 Well I do have low "E" glass windows, Aluminum trim on the house and the base construction of the home is brick. I never though of these factors at that time, I never figured that low E glass would cause a problem. If I am not mistaken Tommy, truckers antennas all have a different gain, does it matter?? and how do I figure that into the connection with the wireless card or adapter?? I'm willing to retry anything at this point. My cell phone here at the house where my router is located, I have a full signal on it so I know I can see the tower without a problem.. I'm reaching out for your help....Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted November 16, 2009 CID Share Posted November 16, 2009 What I have would be the Omni 32". I also (not listening to the salesman ) have a yaggi directional. And like you you have to know where your tower is to use one. I'd say dig around in here, and if you have questions I have called them before as to what to use and such. http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=53 Honestly the Omni was enough, rarely is the yaggi better. Yeah I switch back and forth once in a while just in case. I am 2.5-3 miles from my tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted January 6, 2010 CID Share Posted January 6, 2010 Could I get some WildBlue users to post up some ping times? scientist are encouraged to reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted January 6, 2010 CID Share Posted January 6, 2010 I tested my ping on Speedtest.net, the results are, ping: 1859ms, Jitter 758ms, line quality F. I normally can't do a ping test. it fails right away. Here is my AM speed posting of which at 5 PM will be less than 50% of this score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siryak Posted January 6, 2010 CID Share Posted January 6, 2010 Could I get some WildBlue users to post up some ping times? scientist are encouraged to reply. Pinging testmy.net [74.54.226.166] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1510ms TTL=48 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1377ms TTL=48 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1401ms TTL=48 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1530ms TTL=48 Ping statistics for 74.54.226.166: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 1377ms, Maximum = 1530ms, Average = 1454ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted January 6, 2010 CID Share Posted January 6, 2010 Heres my evening test. My ping test failed. So one can do the math, I'm clearly at 80% of my package . I love my service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted January 7, 2010 CID Share Posted January 7, 2010 Here is a ping with Spaceway3....will post another during evening hours: (8am EST) Pinging testmy.net [74.54.226.166] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1019ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=595ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=707ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=877ms TTL=51 Ping statistics for 74.54.226.166: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 595ms, Maximum = 1019ms, Average = 799ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siryak Posted January 7, 2010 CID Share Posted January 7, 2010 Here is a ping with Spaceway3....will post another during evening hours: (8am EST) Pinging testmy.net [74.54.226.166] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=1019ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=595ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=707ms TTL=51 Reply from 74.54.226.166: bytes=32 time=877ms TTL=51 Ping statistics for 74.54.226.166: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 595ms, Maximum = 1019ms, Average = 799ms I know someone that is on Spaceway 3(Hughesnet) and I can honestly say that browsing feels much snappier on it than Anik F2(Wildblue). I would switch over, but I don't want to be under contract if something better comes along. I am running contract free with Wildblue right now. Of course I am only occasionally on Wildblue. My parents have it at their house. Thankfully I have Embarq DSL at my apartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generallee76 Posted January 7, 2010 CID Share Posted January 7, 2010 Ping Results:PING 75.106.96.58 (75.106.96.58) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 75.106.96.58: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=15.4 ms 64 bytes from 75.106.96.58: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=17.2 ms 64 bytes from 75.106.96.58: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=14.2 ms 64 bytes from 75.106.96.58: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=14.9 ms 64 bytes from 75.106.96.58: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=16.7 ms --- 75.106.96.58 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 14.284/15.736/17.232/1.102 ms, pipe 2 Morning test, and to the defense of WB we are having very light snow this AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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