tommie gorman Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 Ok so got the new phenom 9600 quad core AMD and of course it came with the Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit/32 bit with SP1 It gives the choice right off to go either way. And the 64 if I am not mistaken from reading here that it takes 64 to use the full 4 gigs of ram I have. And yet the 32 will readily recognize more programs. So any ideas on this one? I am not sure which way to go. Or do I have some of this info wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinlay Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 If it was me ill just say with the 32 bit. Im have 2 gigs of memory and so far ive never used it all. Did you get a good deal on that amd?? why not an intel quad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 32bit will see and use 4gb of ram with no problem. I would stick with 32bit. Unless you are doing heavy video editing, or photoshop, and need more then 4GB of ram there is no use for 64bit. 32 bit doesn't have a problem running programs since 99% of programs today are 32bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted May 18, 2008 Author CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 I thought it was pretty good for the money. I was twisted between dual, triple, or quad core. Well I always have like AMD since I had my first. And well I'd say I am pretty well pleased for the next 2-4 years. Now to get it all set up so I can play with it. GT5676 $749.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blako Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 dlewis23, is this what you mean? In the 32-bit Windows world, each application has its own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 Blako no, thats not really how it works anymore. Vista is totally different because it uses a linux/mac style of memory management. There is no 2GB for apps. and 2GB for the kernel thats a stupid way of doing things, Everything has access too the ram, and can use as much as it needs to or as little as it needs too. And with vista it will actually cache the entire OS in ram if you have enough, then when you launch an app. it will overwrite part of that cache. Thats why when you look at the task manager in vista after 10 minutes or so of being on there is only like 10mb of free ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buntz Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 I am no expert when it come to Vista ,so correct me if I am wrong. I am running Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my desktop. I have had no problem installing any software program that I wanted to use. The 32-bit programs go in to a separate program files folder called Program Files[x86]. As far I know Vista 64 runs them in 32-bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 I am no expert when it come to Vista ,so correct me if I am wrong. I am running Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my desktop. I have had no problem installing any software program that I wanted to use. The 32-bit programs go in to a separate program files folder called Program Files[x86]. As far I know Vista 64 runs them in 32-bit. yes vista 64bit runs them in 32bit mode. This works for most programs. Programers code the program to work in 64bit even tho its a 32bit program. 64bit tho still has a lot of problems with drives tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark06 Posted May 18, 2008 CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 I am no expert when it come to Vista ,so correct me if I am wrong. I am running Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my desktop. I have had no problem installing any software program that I wanted to use. The 32-bit programs go in to a separate program files folder called Program Files[x86]. As far I know Vista 64 runs them in 32-bit. Thats the understanding that i have too I have 64 bit capabilities but no vista 64 bit vista if i had the choice i would put XP o it screw vista also u might look into linux 64 bit they provide preatty good stuff Wow dude you got a deal im really surprise that these quad core comps are so cheap i will be buying one soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted May 18, 2008 Author CID Share Posted May 18, 2008 Well it appears to me to run in 32 bit for now. And I suppose after a reformat later I could retrieve the 64 bit later on maybe then. I think I will give gatew2ay a call first on the retrieval part for later. If I am right on that one, then might as well go for the 32 for now then. Thanks one and all. This has truly been interesting. I wonder what fun is in store in the next 2 or 3 years. And your right Dark, not bad for the best for now from AMD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlucardHS Posted June 17, 2008 CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 32bit will see and use 4gb of ram with no problem. Well this is wrong, 32 bit cant use all 4 GB of RAM. Max you will ever get is 3.2GB. It can Identify 4 but wont use it all. TG just go 64bit and play around with it, and get to use all 4GB+ of RAM you put in it.If anything you can just put 32 back on. Not like it takes vista long to reinstall anyways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted June 17, 2008 Author CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 OH thats pretty much what I did. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 17, 2008 CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well this is wrong, 32 bit cant use all 4 GB of RAM. Max you will ever get is 3.2GB. It can Identify 4 but wont use it all. TG just go 64bit and play around with it, and get to use all 4GB+ of RAM you put in it.If anything you can just put 32 back on. Not like it takes vista long to reinstall anyways! Ok your totally wrong again. Vista 32bit will see and use all 4GB of ram. Service pack 1 for vista even has a fix for this, so it will use all 4GB of ram. 32bit can even go upto 8GB of ram if you start using PAE. The limit on some 32bit installs of vista is not because of vista it self, It is because of the chipset. They only work upto 3.12GB of ram. If you bought your system and it came with 32bit windows vista, 4GB of ram, and it is fairly modern, you can just about bet it has a chipset that will use all 4gb of ram in vista 32 bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlucardHS Posted June 17, 2008 CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ha Ha Ha just seeing how much ya know Mac boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted June 17, 2008 CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ha Ha Ha just seeing how much ya know Mac boy I'm not just mac user, boy.... I use a bad ass PC every day of the week. and I manage 64 PC's at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlucardHS Posted June 17, 2008 CID Share Posted June 17, 2008 whoa there cowboy take it easy i see jokes don't go far in this place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starship_troopers Posted June 18, 2008 CID Share Posted June 18, 2008 Calm down there. Noone is fighting, and if you research this forum you will see jokes go just as far as the technical help/information here. As far as the system goes, Thats a hell of a deal for you there tommie, you mind getting me one?? EDIT- Just kidding tommie....get me 2 of them plz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted June 18, 2008 Author CID Share Posted June 18, 2008 Circuit city SST. they had a few more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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