mudmanc4 Posted August 28, 2009 CID Share Posted August 28, 2009 i tried getting it apart but got stuck on the back end thing would not come apart grr. i can shine a lite in there and no dust or anything. took can of air and blew in there not much of anything came out. So you can't get the case open ? Well just blowing air into the case through a hole isn't going to do a thing. You need to get that case open, some of them can be tricky, just work with it, you'll get it. You need to blow the crap out of the fins in the CPU heat sink , I'm taking a good stab at the fact that it's so packed because chances are, it's never been opened, like most . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 28, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 28, 2009 after i get my stuff for this other laptop i got torn apart and get it back together i will get this one we talking about torn apart and will re paste it with good stuff. Probly be a few hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 29, 2009 CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 I know it might be a long shot, but you could put something like linux mint on a USB pen, and try booting to that, if it's enabled in the bios. Or even if it's available in the bios. I'm stabbin in the dark on this ;/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 29, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 could you specify more please http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 29, 2009 CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 Here's a perfect example of what causes heat issues within laptops. This is a Dell inspiron D810 blah blah whatever. They had the machine plugged in, and charging , while on the CARPET , they crashed out for the night and left it to roast there, since the cool air intakes are on the bottom of the case, you guessed it. And the pic shows just how bad they can get. So when you spray air into the outlets, all your doing is pushing that junk back into the machine, not only to be charged somewhat statically, but to be later slurped back into the heatpipe radiator. Small pic, i forgot to set the camera bigger, and I already used the mini vac to get rid of the stuff. Press cntrl , and scroll wheel to get a bit closer edit~ if anyone says "look, he's got the thing setting on the cpu omg " well, thats the old one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigw Posted August 29, 2009 CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 What about the power supply over heating... had it happen to me more than once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 29, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 Ok the heatsink was clean as all ever somehow.... these people keep a very clean home. was some dust in the fan but not much. As for the thermal paste. Stuff on there was hard as a rock and not covering good. Came off way faster then other machines i have done and came off in clumps with no leftovers lol. The machine currently is doing the same thing i was talking about before when i changed the ram and its not posting when i magically get it to work as in the other 4 times i will repost on results. Had some OCZ freeze compound i am sure its better then the junk they had in there before. If this does not work i think its a chipset in the machine and think this strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 29, 2009 CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 If this does not work i think its a chipset in the machine and think this strongly. I'm curious what brought you to this conclusion.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 29, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 Had a P4 machine do the same thing except i could stick my hands in the case. The chipset was getting way way too hott and it would freeze up the screen. This since the monitor wont kick on sometimes would be caused by the graphics chipset (maybe could be many things) Also ruling out ram and power supply helps narrow it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 29, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 mudman do you think that it could not be the chipset? I only had this happen 1 time and it seems to be a rare problem from what i can tell. Still tryn to boot this machine sigh Will get it sometime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 29, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 29, 2009 anyone know if the toggle to use an external monitor for this machine IS KEYS FN + F4 Also assume that the 2 power supplys is causing problems if i was to use a voltage meter on it would the possitive go on the inside and the negative on the outside? I dont want to burn the psu on something thats not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 30, 2009 CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 Might be the PS. W/O me reading this whole thread again, lol, Iv'e had my hands in too many different things in the last 24 hours, some things got shoved outta my memory, so it freezes up with, or without the hard drive in it, it freezes if you try to boot to a cd, you cant boot to anything whatso ever. You cant get into safe mode, all of this, right ? If this is the case, then I'm going to say the CPU crapped itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 30, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 Yes it pretty much freezes on anything that is done. booting from xp or vista cd - freeze bios left on too long - freeze booting from ultimate boot disc - works longer will boot but ends up freeze buys it maybe a few more minutes but as of now Is not even showing picture on screen The lite comes on and goes back off like it is having a power issue. So maybe i have 2 bad psu sitting here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 30, 2009 CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 Could be the video card then that crapped out. Which might be replaceable ! Nope, just checked, it's integrated. Take the HDD out and boot to the UBCD Well if you have meter, then check it, see if it's sending what it should be ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 30, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 at the current time i am getting no picture on monitor trying to get it back this thing is buggin..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 30, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 i am trying to use a secondary monitor but i cant seem to get fn + f4 to work am i doing this correct? machine also powers on i feel fan and hdd moving softly. 1 lite comes on. should be 1 lite then a flash of about 4 lites. The 1 lite that stays on decides to turn off after about 1 min and the pc still has power fan is still going and usb if i put something in it lites up. Motherboard tester still not picking up a code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 30, 2009 CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 I can't seem to find anything on the keys to make this happen, where did you find out that it was the f4 key ? edit, I found this................... Fn + F3, Fn + F5, Fn + F8, or Fn + F9 is pressed to switch between alternate displays. So if your laptop was Fn + F3, pressing and holding both Fn and F3 at the same time would switch between displays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiedogsplatr Posted August 30, 2009 Author CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 Well i couldn't get any combo of those to work but i did get it to work on another laptop. I even took the monitors off both of them and tried it. Without the attached monitor connected the 2nd laptop pushed the screen instantly to the 2nd monitor. But screen vanished and i used an fn +f? (cant remember) and it showed up and worked fine. tried that same psu in the laptop in question and still wont post. Thing just getting worse and worse it seems like maybe its day is done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted August 30, 2009 CID Share Posted August 30, 2009 Well if it is a gonner, you cant say you didn't put an effort forth. Here's a motherboard for it. But no CPU included, so if in fact that is the bad part ....... Here's the CPU. OR....... maybe those above aren't such a great idea, because chec this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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