Dilatedpeoples28 and swimmer 1 thing about those bench marks, there are all run at 1024x768 with high quality.
you can not test a cup speed accurately when you test at that res. you have to do it at 640x480 with all settings on low, you have to eliminate the gpu as much as you can. they did not do that in eather of those benchmarks. they are inaccurate. you can not run a game benchmark on a cpu at a res. higher then 640x480 it will not give you the correct results.
if you download this http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://aolradio.podcast.aol.com/twit/TWiT0045H.mp3 and go to 32:32 a guy over at http://bit-tech.net ran there own benchmarks on the cpu, with everything at the lowest possable settings, and the new intel cpu was far faster then the amd.