tommie gorman Posted December 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted December 17, 2006 Finally, and thank you. Now back to christmas at TMN. Now would someone pass the high octane eggnog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Fan Posted December 17, 2006 CID Share Posted December 17, 2006 Why don't you start with a true definition of true internet speeds? And with more than one reference. And not your own words. What the hell? What are you trying to prove? If you wanted to prove a point, you would tell me to find the definition for true internet speeds for Hughes. I figure, if you know what the word true means, you should have no problem finding out what true internet speed means. Downloading at 189kb/s is false, downloading at 120kb/s would be true, or reasonable for the type of internet service like HughesNet right? Why is it that when you take two tests right after another (for some people it doesn't work I understand, but that doesn't mean that they're downloading at 189kb/s on a home plan, there's no possible way unless every HughesNet customer loses service except for that one person) that one can go from 189kb/s to the other 131kb/s? Which one do you think is right judging by the majority of people's scores on their second or third test on HughesNet? Eh? Use common sense it's not hard, it just pisses me off when I read things that asked if you've tweaked your HughesNet modem. You can't, it's as simple as that. It does absolutely nothing. Hell, I tried it today just for the fun of it. I reset my tweaks (and even reset my TCP/IP and Winsock settings to be sure) and then took a test, and then put the tweaks back in after a restart. What did I see? Nothing. So it would be nice if everyone would stop asking HughesNet users if they've tweaked yet, it does nothing and never will do anything unless HughesNet decides to start making 4000 (or ones older) modems again. Worst of all is when I post a "real" speed test result, someone tells me that I'm slow. Or when posters compare their upload speed to mine, who cares? I live in an entirely different part of the country, I have a different satellite signal, I have a different computer, I have a different wireless router, the weather is different at my house, etc. Yeah, I see how "sophisticated" (look at their user title) some of these posters are. You have to take everything into account before laughing at their speeds because they didn't upgrade to the new modem and their getting close to the same speeds. This is part of the reason I left this forum, all I see is "look at my speeds tonight!!!11 200kb/s!" I say it's bull shit, they say it's not and call me a flamer. Or the whole, "Have you tweaked your modem yet, you can get scores like me if you did!!!1" I never see these so-called "helpers" really asking questions about their service. They might ask for what satellite their on, what plan and modem, but absolutely nothing else. Then, once they have the satellite their on, they don't even see if it's having a problem! Wouldn't that be the first place you should look? Problems are almost always on HughesNet's end unless your dish fell off the roof or you've got severe weather. Another pointless rant by me, but to conclude, a "true" speed (I'm allowed to make up terms and words if our President can) for HughesNet satellite internet for the Home plan or even Pro plan is in the 120-135kb/s. Anything higher should be considered a burst or false for Home and Pro plan users. For better understanding of what the term "burst" is, in my own words, a burst is a higher speed than normal for a short period of time at the beginning of a download. Does it really affect page loading? No. For HughesNet, the lag time is what really slows down page loading. Unless these posters have a miracle HughesNet modem, anyone getting 189kb/s is just bullshitting themselves and the entire HughesNet community on Testmy.net by posting their speeds and bragging about them. Go ahead and make yourself feel better by believing you're really getting those speeds, but HughesNet sucks and will always suck. Get over it. Sorry to ruin the fun. I know, I'm quite the party pooper. I think we need a new system of helping people around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Fan Posted December 17, 2006 CID Share Posted December 17, 2006 Finally, and thank you. Now back to christmas at TMN. We can get back to Christmas if people start agreeing around here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huuligan Posted December 17, 2006 CID Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hey bird fan, kudos to you. Hughes DOES suck, always has and always will. But it is still the best of the three evils (starband, wildblue, hughesnet). I just upgraded to the HN7000S. Speeds have increased over the DW6000, but are not near the advertised speeds. Hughes has always (and always will) lie and mislead about thier speeds! And, with no consequence. That is sad. But, until we are ALL willing to ban together and force the issue(s), they will get away with it. I for one am fighting them to the end (either mine or thiers). I refuse to pay for something I can't get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted December 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted December 17, 2006 There is nothing constant, agreeable, or the same. So what? We here at this forum just see if we can't help others find their highest speeds possible. Or to help fix problems. Other than that why do we need comparables anyway. Other to say I doubt we can help you any more than that. All satelite speeds are burst. They are bursty. Different things help different people. Some work best with TCP Optimizer, some cablenut. Some work best with IE6, IE7, Firefox, or something else. So what? Who really cares, except to argue. To proove, nothing. I really don't give a rats. I am here just having a little fun. Your not. Fine. I still don't care. Now what did you think any of us were supposed to agree upon? This is satelite. Hey bird fan, kudos to you. Hughes DOES suck, always has and always will. I think I said that much earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Fan Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 We here at this forum just see if we can't help others find their highest speeds possible. Or to help fix problems. Yeah, and tweaking doesn't do that for HughesNet, so I think we should stay away from the tweaking suggestions. I am here just having a little fun. Your not. Wow. Just wow. How do you know what my feelings are? You don't even know that I think it's fun to argue............. Now what did you think any of us were supposed to agree upon? This is satelite. 189kb/s in speed doesn't last long when downloading. I think I said that much earlier. Oh, you really got me there. Nice welcome to a new poster, as well. Welcome to the forum huuligan! How long have you been using HughesNet/Direcway? What part of the country do you live in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 Fikester, Also, the problem with Testmy's first test always being faster than retesting is a problem with Testmy, it's been happening since the facelift earlier this year....so in other words, I agree with you about the testing, just not for the same reason, it's not a speed burst. I'm not sure if I did or didn't call it a burst, but do realize the first test is not correct. So really there is no sense in posting that incorrect score, especially when its known that first score is false. To my knowledge the pro plus, business accounts, or SHO plans are the only packages advertised to see 1500 I do realize the speeds change constantly, but also know that the NOC and the sat modem keep a reign on the system. This being why I don't get 5Mbs/2Mbs connection, the system is capable of much higher speeds than we actually do get. Lastly, some people on here tend to attack posts like wild animals...I recall posting some info on Spaceway3, "oh no rubbish that project has been trashed bla bla"...yeah it was pushed back, but is still being prepared to launch 2007. I stumbled onto this site looking for a speed test, and ended up joining a few years back..... myself not looking for an on-line brawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Fan Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 Lastly, some people on here tend to attack posts like wild animals... You're probably referring to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 You're probably referring to me. Not referring to you, just a general comment about those who rip apart a legitimate post or question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Fan Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 Not referring to you, just a general comment about those who rip apart a legitimate post or question. Eh, that's what happens on a message board. Not everyone can get along and play nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostmaster Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 I do realize the speeds change constantly, but also know that the NOC and the sat modem keep a reign on the system. This being why I don't get 5Mbs/2Mbs connection, the system is capable of much higher speeds than we actually do get. The modem is capable of those speeds definately. Hell, the DW6000 was capable of that. Hughes can't afford to give it to us. The only thing Hughes gives us, is a long, cylindrical object, shoved into a small round openening on our backside, with no form of lubrication. They're not even nice enough to spit on it first..... I agree with Bird Fan though. No amount of tweaking will help your DW6000 and above. Simply because the thing is self hosted. The only thing tweaking does is "tweak" the communication between the modem and the computer, which does nothing. Tweaking does help the DW4000 units, because it functions much like a normal DSL or cable modem. If we all got along all the time, the forum would be boring as hell, so lets just keep argueing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redding1 Posted December 18, 2006 CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 The Hughes tech has came and gone and as you can see the upload speed is no better than yesterday. He did replace the reciever on the dish as it was marginal and causing the lockups and transmission stops, It does work better but still slow as it was before he came. Waiting for a call from Brighthouse, If they cannot make it here I will be going back to dialup and save $50.00 a month. Ouch! You must be on dialup or something. :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 55 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 1496 kB) Upload Speed is:: 7 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2006/12/18 - 10:36am Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 146.29 sec Tested from a 1496 kB file and took 222.156 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: May need help : running at only 54.46 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-DEZ4LW5C9 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) [!] Intel P-4 3.4 gig, HT Fast mammy jammer, DW-6000, XP-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted December 18, 2006 Author CID Share Posted December 18, 2006 I am not going to say one way or the other on tweaking. When I first got on dway I was getting 700 D/L speeds. Ater the Reverands settings with TCP Optimizer it has always been 1030 since. Now I really don't care how it is figured, but that is what happened on my end. Just facts. And U/L always varies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted January 24, 2007 Author CID Share Posted January 24, 2007 My highest in a while. :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 138 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 17 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/23 - 11:48pm Bottom Line:: 2X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 60.24 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 34.469 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 33.98 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-X51OWL7GD User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted January 24, 2007 CID Share Posted January 24, 2007 My highest in a while. ::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..:::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 138 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 17 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/23 - 11:48pm Bottom Line:: 2X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 60.24 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 34.469 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 33.98 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-X51OWL7GD User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Your not alone, :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 181 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 22 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/24 - 4:50am Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 46.55 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 26.138 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 75.73 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-FJOD71TVZ User Agent:: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1 [!] Even with our recent ice storm I haven't lost my connection, just some trees that need to go anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted January 24, 2007 CID Share Posted January 24, 2007 The Hughes tech has came and gone and as you can see the upload speed is no better than yesterday. He did replace the reciever on the dish as it was marginal and causing the lockups and transmission stops, It does work better but still slow as it was before he came. Waiting for a call from Brighthouse, If they cannot make it here I will be going back to dialup and save $50.00 a month. Ouch! You must be on dialup or something. :::::::::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 55 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 1496 kB) Upload Speed is:: 7 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2006/12/18 - 10:36am Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 146.29 sec Tested from a 1496 kB file and took 222.156 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: May need help : running at only 54.46 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-DEZ4LW5C9 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Intel P-4 3.4 gig, HT Fast mammy jammer, DW-6000, XP-2 Thats not all that bad for the 6000....if you want better uploads get the 7000 or above. ::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..:::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 199 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Upload Speed is:: 24 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/01/24 - 6:49am Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 42.67 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 41.797 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 93.2 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-0U4IZHJK7 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
816_1443013898 Posted February 3, 2007 CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dw4000 :::.. testmy.net test results ..::: Download Connection is:: 1067 Kbps about 1.07 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 130 kB/s Upload Connection is:: 80 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 386 kB) Upload Speed is:: 10 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/02/03 - 6:40am D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-QW83D0G6L U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-38RHGVC0S User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted February 3, 2007 CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 too bad thats not your upload speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
816_1443013898 Posted February 3, 2007 CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 take a closer lOOk./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikester Posted February 3, 2007 CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 194 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Upload Speed is:: 24 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/02/03 - 8:19am Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 42.67 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 42.844 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 86.54 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-36VTNRAS2 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) [!] What happened to those 2500Mbps downloads?....looks like the fat has beed trimmed from those BW hogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
816_1443013898 Posted February 3, 2007 CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 ::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..:::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 194 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Upload Speed is:: 24 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/02/03 - 8:19am Bottom Line:: 3X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 42.67 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 42.844 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 86.54 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-36VTNRAS2 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) What happened to those 2500Mbps downloads?....looks like the fat has beed trimmed from those BW hogs I'm not going to go there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted February 3, 2007 Author CID Share Posted February 3, 2007 In defense of the 4000's they were legitimate BW users. And it was not their fault they were fast. Secind if all they helped pave and pay the way for all future models. Still say it was not fair ending them the way they did. Almost communistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeddlar Posted March 27, 2007 CID Share Posted March 27, 2007 here is what I get most of the time since I used an optimizer. this is about 30% better than before I used it and I have tested for weeks both before and after donloading the optimizer so I know there is a difference, why I don't know. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 2458 Kbps about 2.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Download Speed is:: 300 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/03/26 - 11:09pm Bottom Line:: 43X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 3.41 sec Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 9.969 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 133.65 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-QN1K47JMW User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30) [!] And the Upload: :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 278 Kbps about 0.3 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 34 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/03/26 - 11:11pm Bottom Line:: 5X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 30.12 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 17.063 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 162.26 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-GU9X7FYOP User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30) [!] Now the uplaod speed run at about 200 before so not that much improvement there, during prime time speeds will fall to about 1.6 to 1.8 down and about 220 or so give or take upload. Also I don't have it in my sig. ATM but I am on the small buissness package for 99 bucks a month and speeds are suppose to be 1.5 down and 300 up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjventre Posted March 27, 2007 CID Share Posted March 27, 2007 Which optimizer did you use zeddlar? I would like to try it because I am on the same sat., AMC9, same dish, same plan, and same modem and my speeds never get up to 1.5mbps. I am using Vista Ultimate 64-bit, so I may not be able to use what you used, but I would still like to know. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Keeper Posted March 27, 2007 CID Share Posted March 27, 2007 My download speeds are a little lower today usually round 1300-1400 but this is the best upload I can remember having. :::.. testmy.net test results ..::: Download Connection is:: 999 Kbps about 1 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Download Speed is:: 122 kB/s Upload Connection is:: 165 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 386 kB) Upload Speed is:: 20 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/03/27 - 6:24am D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-PXL8AIJ23 U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-EQHICTNYZ User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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