Siryak Posted January 30, 2007 CID Share Posted January 30, 2007 It looks like a marginal EVDO signal to me. Look on this website ---> http://booster-antenna.com/ and try an external antenna. Every ounce of signal counts when it comes to a wireless internet connection. Think of it like your wireless network. The lower the signal, the lower the data rate. Also you could try posting in this forum ---> http://www.evdoforums.com/ dedicated for EVDO in particular. The people there are usually very helpful. That booster-antenna.com is actually that forums website also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 I'm still having problems getting speed of connection set can someone please submit or recommend a cablenut or other setting that will help the speed issue sprints tech support is very lacking - to be nice having a ping loss at 2nd hop and cannot figure out how to fix it I'm just wondering what you signal strength is here. The card your using is there a port for an external antenna connection? Personally I find that making the hardware perform at max first is better. Then I would tweak, make any sense? I think your connection is running much better now than the last posting here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 what is your signal strenght? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 what is your signal strenght? I hope your not referring to my misspell I just noticed. I don't know how one would check what signal strength an EVDO card is getting. I can only check what is here with my phone and outside shows near double (bars showing). I don't have a card but I'm doing my research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 Modem Card is: Novatel S620 Pcmcia Yes it does have plug for external antenna Signal is taken from Sprint's Connection Manager - 88 dB is what I get in most of the food courts and areas of the casinos Also + + + + + + Most of the Casino's have 802.11 b/g Wifi Service and "open & no encrypt" and over 75% are 3 to 12 megs downloads and 512K uploads so use it Cablenut was way over tweaked and is working quite better now biggest setting was TOS of 190 making the difference in download speeds and 65535 Again it is working quite better and is 1xRTT and EVDO Rev A connecting in the casino's and food courts I visit - now 1xRTT is downloading at an adverage of 855 K baud upload at an adverage of 240 K baud Rev A is downloading at an adverage of 1000 to 1800 K upload at an adverage of 200 K baud Rev 0 ( very few areas for this shown connection) downloading at 1800 K to 2050 K upload at 150 K Connect speeds are posted at www.evdomaps.com - Nevada I had it screewed up with tweaking and other factors still to todays date I'm having a ping loss at 2nd hop and cannot figure out how to fix it been doing it on/off July 2006 to Current Sprint's Tech Support is very lacking - to be nice However Level 2 is quite better than the 1st level of support if can ever get off of hold (blicko/snore based music) and speak to a tech Duh - Duh - Duh - If it works leave it alone - lol _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 4:20 Am PST -88 dB Signal and EVDO REV A << from my apartment - facing east and near window >> PING >>>>>>>> PING >>>>>>> C:Documents and SettingsJeff Walker>ping testmy.net Pinging testmy.net [67.18.179.85] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=54 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54 Reply from 67.18.179.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=54 Ping statistics for 67.18.179.85: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 39ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 39ms Tracert >>>>>>>>> Tracert >>>>>>>> C:Documents and SettingsJeff Walker>tracert www.testmy.net Tracing route to www.testmy.net [67.18.179.85] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 480 ms 280 ms 710 ms 68.28.49.69 2 * * * Request timed out. >>>>>>> does this all the time >>> 3 299 ms 399 ms 359 ms 68.28.51.54 4 298 ms 319 ms 338 ms 68.28.51.6 5 317 ms 360 ms 358 ms 68.28.51.17 6 312 ms 360 ms 321 ms sl-gw26-stk-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.50.89] 7 381 ms 317 ms 319 ms sl-bb20-stk-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.4.114] 8 338 ms 380 ms 339 ms sl-bb20-sj-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.99] 9 316 ms 319 ms 320 ms 0.so-5-3-0.BR1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [204.255.169.145] 10 379 ms 320 ms 317 ms 0.so-2-0-0.XL1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.57.50] 11 352 ms 499 ms 361 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL3.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.98.77] 12 398 ms 379 ms 560 ms POS6-0.GW1.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.103.85] 13 379 ms 361 ms 358 ms theplanet-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.143.226] 14 356 ms 359 ms 359 ms vl32.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.62] 15 356 ms 359 ms 358 ms vl42.dsr02.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.91] 16 356 ms 378 ms 359 ms gi1-0-2.car17.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.116.85] 17 378 ms 417 ms 421 ms 55.b3.1243.static.theplanet.com [67.18.179.85] Trace complete. >>>>> IPV6 Protocol >>>>>>>> IPV6 >>>>>> IPV6 >>>> ( It always pings at quite higher times ) C:Documents and SettingsJeff Walker>tracert -6 www.sixxs.org Tracing route to noc.sixxs.net [2001:838:1:1:210:dcff:fe20:7c7c] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 866 ms 935 ms 1377 ms sl-bb1v6-rly-t-1002.sprintv6.net [2001:440:1239:1003::2] 3 3126 ms 3315 ms 3257 ms sl-bb1v6-bru-t-1000.sprintv6.net [2001:440:1239:1002::2] 4 3238 ms 2039 ms 687 ms 2001:440:eeee:ffe4::2 5 1904 ms 959 ms 1539 ms so-1-1-2.dus11.ip6.tiscali.net [2001:668:0:2::100] 6 2117 ms 2540 ms 2739 ms so-0-0-0.ams22.ip6.tiscali.net [2001:668:0:2::1:122] 7 2399 ms 1837 ms 2163 ms pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip6.tiscali.net [2001:668:0:2::630] 8 1647 ms 3250 ms 840 ms ge6-2-0.br0.ams3.nl.gbxs.net [2001:7f8:1::a500:9009:1] 9 1457 ms 707 ms 941 ms ams-ix.ipv6.concepts.nl [2001:7f8:1::a501:2871:1] 10 818 ms 787 ms 700 ms se1.breda.ipv6.concepts-ict.net [2001:838:0:10::2] 11 658 ms 621 ms 637 ms noc.sixxs.net [2001:838:1:1:210:dcff:fe20:7c7c] Trace complete. **** Yes signal does make a difference in the speed you connect at *** and the protocol you use to connect ---- It likes to switch to 1xRTT if signal is low Again ------ I have been on Sprint's EVDO ----June 2006 to Current 1 (one) novatel s620 pcmcia card and $62.57 monthly fee unlimited data plan If I can help you out more PM Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 EDIT >>>> I don't know how one would check what signal strength an EVDO card is getting. I can only check what is here with my phone and outside shows near double (bars showing). I don't have a card but I'm doing my research. http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2001.html - some very interesting info and I'm sure on the fourms or a quick post and how to see signal can and will be answered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 Modem Card is: Novatel S620 Pcmcia Yes it does have plug for external antenna Signal is taken from Sprint's Connection Manager - 88 dB is what I get in most of the food courts and areas of the casinos Also + + + + + + Most of the Casino's have 802.11 b/g Wifi Service and "open & no encrypt" and over 75% are 3 to 12 megs downloads and 512K uploads so use it Sprint's Tech Support is very lacking - to be nice However Level 2 is quite better than the 1st level of support if can ever get off of hold (blicko/snore based music) and speak to a tech Duh - Duh - Duh - If it works leave it alone - lol I guess using it at the casino would be a small gamble but what a luxury. We only have one close by and I'm not sure about the wireless, I'll ask my wife, she works there. Just thinking after seeing those antennas maybe mount one on a hat and wear it around. it might give you a 3-4 decibel gain and has mobility. I got some information from Sprint after extending my contract for some perks. I was advanced on to others when I questioned the EVDO. The 4th person I talked to was an engineer at tech support and he answered the questions I had last week. I just thought, if I use one line I already have for the card and the router (WRTG3G-ST) could I set up VOIP for my home phone? Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted February 12, 2007 CID Share Posted February 12, 2007 I guess using it at the casino would be a small gamble but what a luxury. We only have one close by and I'm not sure about the wireless, I'll ask my wife, she works there. Just thinking after seeing those antennas maybe mount one on a hat and wear it around. it might give you a 3-4 decibel gain and has mobility. I got some information from Sprint after extending my contract for some perks. I was advanced on to others when I questioned the EVDO. The 4th person I talked to was an engineer at tech support and he answered the questions I had last week. I just thought, if I use one line I already have for the card and the router (WRTG3G-ST) could I set up VOIP for my home phone? Hmm... I have only used VOIP via a Cable Modem So you have asked a good question ^?^ 1st I would tracert or ping the VOIP Provider and see what times you get back 2nd Do a test at https://www.gizmocall.com/ 3rd This VOIP says that they will work over dial up http://www.fusiontel.com/ I think that it depends on the travel of the IP Packets Very good question - Please keep me advised on your R&D Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 19, 2007 CID Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hey Jeff, I opened this card and inserted it into a linksys wrt54g3g-st router. It is working fine but was thinking of a booster antenna and maybe an amp. My question is: would plugging the booster antenna into the routers antenna connector, via long rj 6 cable up to my roof, have impact on upload and downloads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted February 20, 2007 CID Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hey Jeff, I opened this card and inserted it into a linksys wrt54g3g-st router. It is working fine but was thinking of a booster antenna and maybe an amp. My question is: would plugging the booster antenna into the routers antenna connector, via long rj 6 cable up to my roof, have impact on upload and downloads? Plug into the EVDO Mmdem - not the 802.11 wifi / router Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 20, 2007 CID Share Posted February 20, 2007 Unfortunatly the Merlin S720 doesn't have an external antenna. The only external antenna is the one on the router. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffwalker9999 Posted February 21, 2007 CID Share Posted February 21, 2007 Unfortunatly the Merlin S720 doesn't have an external antenna. The only external antenna is the one on the router. Unfortuanatly I'm not the one to ask router based questions to So ask and I'm sure someone will reply I would say it would help as the better the signal the better the speed but the EVDO modem is the main factor as it is the master connection Good Luck - Please keep me posted - Jeff Walker Ph.D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted February 21, 2007 CID Share Posted February 21, 2007 Unfortunatly the Merlin S720 doesn't have an external antenna. The only external antenna is the one on the router. Your ISP connection is sent to the card alone and not the router. The best signal here means the most for your speed. The card plugs into the router and distributes the data to your network (each PC involved). Now if a PC is connecting through the wireless part of the router than a better antenna here shouldn't be needed unless your having problems connecting to the router or the same but because of a distance between router and PC. If your card is not equipped with an external jack your probably out of luck in improving internet speed unless you change for a card that has one. Remember the best signal here means the most speed out of your connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore2004 Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 -88dBm should see much better speeds. Around 800kbit. I get about 1.2mbit with -84dBm and the settings here: http://ping.inexistent.us/sprintsettings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpa Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 -88dBm should see much better speeds. Around 800kbit. I get about 1.2mbit with -84dBm and the settings here: http://ping.inexistent.us/sprintsettings Welcome to the forum cmore2004 Can you tell us more about your setup, what EVDO modem, external antenna being used and are you using a router for networking. I have read that some are getting slighter higher downloads than 1.2mbit and some claim .35mbit uploads. I was expecting to make the jump to Sprint about 4 weeks ago but a local store manager was making delivery a problem with the Linksys WRT54G3G-ST router. Now I'm again looking into it but will probably order from the 3G store. I have to admit though I didn't do this much research making the jump to the DW4000 from my PCI modem one-way when it came out. I thought about it for a couple of weeks and signed up. And I'm still using my dish labeled DirecPC. So I would like to know the Pro's and Con's if you have anything to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kol Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 Welcome to the forum cmore2004 Can you tell us more about your setup, what EVDO modem, external antenna being used and are you using a router for networking. I have read that some are getting slighter higher downloads than 1.2mbit and some claim .35mbit uploads. I was expecting to make the jump to Sprint about 4 weeks ago but a local store manager was making delivery a problem with the Linksys WRT54G3G-ST router. Now I'm again looking into it but will probably order from the 3G store. I have to admit though I didn't do this much research making the jump to the DW4000 from my PCI modem one-way when it came out. I thought about it for a couple of weeks and signed up. And I'm still using my dish labeled DirecPC. So I would like to know the Pro's and Con's if you have anything to tell. Sprint is the best way to go. Pros- NO FAP UNLIMITED DOWNLOADS Good Speed Maybee A little less than what you get with your dw4000 but browsing speed is waaaaay better Cons- there arent any really accept maybee that thr router if youll use one cost 200.00-249.99 Here are my speeds with Sprint and a signal of -83 to -86 altho i dont know if the upload one is correct because when i test my du meter shows upload of abot 40.0kB/sec and burst up to 63.0kB/sec :::::::::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::::::::: Download Connection is:: 1444 Kbps about 1.4 Mbps (tested with 1496 kB) Download Speed is:: 176 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/05/10 - 7:26am Bottom Line:: 25X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 5.82 sec Tested from a 1496 kB file and took 8.488 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Looks Great : 17.3 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-LZ4AGBN2S User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506) :::::::::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 210 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Upload Speed is:: 26 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/05/10 - 7:28am Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 39.38 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 22.597 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 20.69 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-HCM7BG6X0 User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506) heres an upload before i upgraded to Vista (which i also would like to say i downloaded it 2gigs ) (no fap) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Upload Connection is:: 487 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 1013 kB) Upload Speed is:: 59 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/05/05 - 4:35am Bottom Line:: 8X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 17.36 sec Tested from a 1013 kB file and took 17.062 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 183.14 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-0PQ1HAKFR User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Windows-Media-Player/10.00.00.3990) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 So kol, are you using any external antenna's? Besides the onboard one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kol Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 So kol, are you using any external antenna's? Besides the onboard one. no not at all what signal do you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore2004 Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 Gladly. I'm using a PX-500 with a -84dBm average signal strength. I don't use a router, I use Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing. A quick overview of my network: 2x WRT54G routers in a WDS configuration. Host ICS computer connected wirelessly 2x Wireless Laptops 1x Wired Desktop connected directly to a WRT54G 1x DW6000 directly connected to WRT54G Network 172.16.1.0/24 With my Windows machines, I typically see speeds around 800kbit-1.2mbit download. Upload usually at least 400kbit, sometimes as high as 800kbit. Upload seems to use some sort of compression, but by doing a timed upload I can verify speeds of at least 400kbit. Right now my laptop is running Windows Vista Ultimate and I've removed Fedora Core 6 (which produced the best results with the link I provided--those were the default settings and I used BBR's tweak test to see what they were). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore2004 Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 :::.. Upload Stats ..::: Upload Connection is:: 611 Kbps about 0.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB) Upload Speed is:: 75 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/05/10 - 4:13pm Bottom Line:: 11X faster than 56K 1MB Upload in 13.65 sec Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 40.106 seconds to complete Upload Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 251.15 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net) U-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-WT6EAR23H User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 -91 to -95 most times in the basement. Thought about hooking it to the kids comp to see if upstairs sies better, but it has the old 1.0 USB or what ever. It might go slow anyway. SOme reason it still does not work here for me. :::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 18217 Kbps about 18.2 Mbps (tested with 12160 kB) Download Speed is:: 2224 kB/s Tested From:: https://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2007/05/10 - 4:41pm Bottom Line:: 318X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 0.46 sec Tested from a 12160 kB file and took 5.468 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Awesome! 20% + : 1376.26 % faster than the average for host (spcsdns.net) D-Validation Link:: https://testmy.net/stats/id-L8V02UTSB User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30) [!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore2004 Posted May 10, 2007 CID Share Posted May 10, 2007 Those results are inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbennett Posted May 11, 2007 CID Share Posted May 11, 2007 EVDO speeds will vary by card, signal, tower and web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore2004 Posted May 11, 2007 CID Share Posted May 11, 2007 Would you mind running a test here: http://ping.inexistent.us/stest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbennett Posted May 11, 2007 CID Share Posted May 11, 2007 I tried, but it starts to download then stalls after about 3 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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